FS365 - A Stupid Question

[Tiger 55]

So I'm winterising like billy-o and I get to the Scottoiler FS365 part and it says on the bottle to apply "after washing or a wet run". So here's the stupid question:

Does the bike need to be wet before I put this stuff on?

After I wash there's a whirlwind of chamois, cloths and brushes various and by the time I'm finished the bike is bone dry. If I spray on the 365 after rinsing say then I'm just going to rub it off (Matron!) but if I don't dry the bike it's going to be spotty...

And where the hell does it go anyway?

OK, two stupid questions.

[Duck-man]

Hey tiger,

I am also using FS365.

I washed the bike and then dried most of the fairing and then sprayed the FS stuff on the metal bits (which was depressing cause it makes a mess!) then left it!

I was out yesterday on the bike and sprayed it when it i got home, and i have just had the cover off this morning and it seems to be gleaming and clean! :D

magic!!

Roll on the summer!

[Law]

FS365 covers every single metal part, apart from the brake discs for me.

It's water soluble, so it washes off in a wet run or washing, and needs reapplying to stop your bits corroding. Reapply when it has dried. You need to keep reapplying regularly!!

ACF50 is better protection, I've been told.

[STRAMASHER]

Keep it off discs and be careful on or near caliper when doing banjos and brake line holders.

Careful on footrest hangers. Keep away from gear lever pivot as it will get sticky. (Blast pivot with wd40.)

Suzuki's have such a s**t finish that your bikes nuts and bolts will get furred-up as soon as it leaves the shop :? The paint is already falling off the top off my forks( probably due to small stone chips then water ingress).

I blast wd40 all over metal parts apart from the ones above. Fs365 everynight after coming in (bike wet or dry). It will look like a total shag heap after a couple of weekly coats but after a good degrease and wash it will still be aw nice underneath :) 2 or 3wks without a wash tho' is hard mentally if its your pride and joy :cry:

ACF50 is suppossed to be the daddy but i don't get that for free :? So wd it is.

you are going to lose the war but not every battle.................


Andy (S.A.D. afflicted)

:( :( :(

:lol:

[Viney]

I've given up with all that rubbish. Its gets washed, thats it. If paint flakes off then, i'll paint it in the spring.

I never successfuly used F365. WD40 worked for a while, but got bored with that. If you dont want your bike to corrode, then dont use it in the winter, or buy a honda.

[Jdubya]

Having used the FS365 and ACF50 I would recommend the latter. It stays for longer and wont come off if you just rinse the bike after a salty ride...it will however come off if you wash with Muc-off or any of its cousins/rivals.
HTH

[Tiger 55]

If you dont want your bike to corrode, then dont use it in the winter, or buy a honda.

That's good advice Viney but if I fight Mrs Tiger for the car she'll win so I'll go with's Stramasher's tips. Thanks peeps.

Mind you, it never rained this morning, maybe I won't need it...

[Ceri JC]

I've given up with all that rubbish. Its gets washed, thats it. If paint flakes off then, i'll paint it in the spring.

I never successfuly used F365. WD40 worked for a while, but got bored with that. If you dont want your bike to corrode, then dont use it in the winter, or buy a honda.

This is my attitude. Year before last I really looked after mine/cleaned it religiously. The following winter, I did b-all. The amount of deterioration in the latter was no greater than in the first. Plus, there's the fact that if you use your bike every day, it's utterly impractical (and indeed, more than negates the time saved by taking it instead of a car) to give it a thorough clean after every ride.

[TLMark]

I only really spray the 365 on when its the roads are salty and it works well. wd40 stays wet and just attracts dirt, 365 dries.

[Jdubya]

... 365 dries.
...and then washes off at the sight of moisture :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[STRAMASHER]

The wd40 provides a thin film/protection of your metal parts. Attracts dirt in no time, but the trick is to plaster the bike with the WD OVER the dirt already there. Builds up a nice crust which you can spray fs365 onto to neutralise any salt/piece of mind :) Specifically subframe, engine casings and of course number plate :wink: :lol:

One of the most vunerable places that i give special attention is the bottom yoke. Nasty finish standard and does not take much to go orange. I spray the FS365 down the forks and onto yoke. The oil cooler is a bitch too but was already gubbed by previous numpty.

Does the black framed SV's parts have a better finish? Might be out with the spanners next SV run out! :wink: :lol:


Tinker!

[Jdubya]

That also works...

[Tiger 55]

And here is the official answer from Scottoiler Technical Support, who took about 4 hours to respond to my stupid question. Those guys really are as good as folk say.

FS365 can be applied wither the bike is wet or dry but a fair percentage of it is water which helps it flow into nukes and crannies and then evaporates off leaving an oily, waxy film. I always feel that when the bike is wet, the solution is slightly more diluted, so, I prefer to apply it once the bike is dry as less drips off onto the ground.
You can spray all over the bike (except the brakes, tyres and grips), after you've given the exhaust a wipe, of course.

So now you know...

[Nashwan]

which helps it flow into nukes and crannies
That's a little disconcerting :?