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philh
18-12-06, 10:50 PM
Howdee :D

Take a look at where my crash bungs are. Alloy ones, just below the fairing;

http://upload4.postimage.org/1209258/SV_650S.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/1209258/photo_hosting.html)

The previous owner fitted them. If I look down the length of the bike the fairing stands proud of the bungs by a good 1/2 inch. This means of course that if I was unfortunate enough to lie her down, the bungs would do nothing to save my plastics. Frame would probably benefit.

Are my bungs on the right place?

Cheers! :D

hovis
18-12-06, 11:00 PM
not sure what make you have .but mine are here



i think with most bungs they are ment to save engine & not the plastics :?http://upload4.postimage.org/1953248/SV_650S.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/1953248/photo_hosting.html)

philh
18-12-06, 11:04 PM
Hi hovi5.

Tee-hee. Your bike looks just the same as mine. :lol: :roll:

hovis
18-12-06, 11:06 PM
my nextdoor neigbour has a white saxo too

philh
18-12-06, 11:08 PM
Just seen your (pink) arrow. :oops: Ah-ha. I cant remember what make mine are. I'm not going to look right now 'cos it's cold outside and I have no clothes on. :shock:

If bungs on general aren't intended to save plastics, only frame/engine then I guess where my bungs are is good enough!

Thanks!

philh
18-12-06, 11:10 PM
Boo-hoo. Your arrow isn't pink anymore. :lol:

hovis
18-12-06, 11:15 PM
i made it bigger for you to see :wink:

if i dropped my bike i think i might damage the plastics............ & my bungs stick out a lot

(my bungs are bigger than yours :smt019 )

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k295/hovi5/dcp_2302.jpg

philh
18-12-06, 11:33 PM
Ooh! Nice SV. :D Thanks for the photo. I think very long bungs would be required to offer any protection to the plastics.

I know what I'll do. I'll try extra hard to keep it shiny-side up. :lol: :roll:

Oh, yes, and mine are shiner. Ribbed too... (Seriously, they are. :?)

hovis
19-12-06, 09:48 AM
Ooh! Nice SV. :D Thanks for the photo.

Oh, yes, and mine are Ribbed too... (Seriously, they are. :?)

:shock: RIBBED??? for extra pleasure?? :shock:

Viney
19-12-06, 09:58 AM
Its true. Bungs really are not there to save plastics, but the frame and engine, the VERY expensive parts. If they do save the plastics, then all groovy. It really depends on how you throw your bike down the road.

As for where yours are placed, i cant see the pretty pictures at work.

peanut
19-12-06, 10:30 AM
I have motrax crash bungs on my curvy and they sit where Hovi5 has indicated with his arrow. I'll take some pics tonight if I can find the time.

Incidentally, philh, I'm liking your belly pan there. Might I enquire where you got it from?

r4ce_e3nd
19-12-06, 10:32 AM
mine are on the same place as yours only a bit longer:

http://i17.tinypic.com/42v5t2b.jpg


last time on the track I crashed at +-30km/h and it saved everything except the blinker (and exhaust pipe and rear brake lever):

http://i11.tinypic.com/4gnrgv9.jpg


when I do a long trip I can even rest my feet on them because they are that long. very relaxing on long boring roads :lol:

philh
21-12-06, 04:26 PM
RIBBED??? for extra pleasure??

Yup! I'll take a picture... Maybe falling off would be stimulating... :shock:

peanut - you sure can enquire my good fella, but I'm afraid the pan was added by the previous owner of my SV. A bloody good chap he was too. Along with the pan he added steel braided hoses, Scottoiler, hugger, Scorpion titanium, seat cowl, Datatool, front mudguard extender, double bubble and only 3500 miles. Nice chap. I'll see if I can find out where he got it from though... :D

r4ce_e3nd, dude, those must be 8 inch bungs! There are BIG! :shock: Sounds like they work too!

northwind
21-12-06, 09:22 PM
Are those metal bungs there? Not generally regarded as the best idea, you want your bungs to be weaker than the bike so that they snap or bend before hte frame does :)

I've had 2 sets that mount where yours are. It's basically not the best place. The bungs have to be veeeery long to make them usefully protective, and also they bolt into the engine casings. This means if you break the bolt or strip the thread... Well, you get it. Trouble.

The older R&Gs, GSG Moko, Bikesliders and Motosliders, as well as (I think) the old JHS ones bolt in where Hovis's are.

These are the new R&Gs... Best mounting out there IMO, but I don't think the bung works as it should. I had them fitted for a while but I felt that the LHS one bent too easily in a sliding crash, and I've heard too many stories about the bung ripping out entirely without having hit a solid option. Crash bungs are a balancing act between strength- to protect- and weakness- to prevent them from damaging the bike if they hit an option. IMO R&G have got it a bit too far on the weakness side. That, and their parts costs are excessive, to replace a bolt and bung is £25 plus £7 p&p, and you'll need to replace both after even fairly low speed impacts. So, I sold 'em...

And got these:

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i264/Northwindlowlander/xlhsfromfront.jpg

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i264/Northwindlowlander/other/fromrear.jpg

Motosliders, from the US. I got mine including a pair of spare bungs and a set of swingarm spools for less than the R&Gs had cost, including shipping from the states. They're hugely recommended by the SV Rider boys, literally never heard a bad story about them, and those guys know things about crashing that we couldn't even guess :)

They mount with a bolt that goes straight through the engine, meaning that if it snaps you can just replace it- it won't leave a stub in the casing, and there's no thread to damage other than the bolt's own. Because they mount on a wider part of the bike, they don't need to be as long to protect.

Viney says that crash bungs are just for protecting the engine and frame, and anything else is a bonus. I don't agree at, with a narrow bike like the SV you're unlikely to damage the frame regardless, and if you do it'll be from the sort of crash that bungs probably won't help. The engine's well tucked in too. These bungs, and the old R&G, GSGs etc, mean that if a standard SV goes down the tank, tail plastics, etc won't usually hit the ground. They also mean you're far more likely to have the levers survive, and be able to ride home. It's also less likely that the bars will drive into the tank.

You can't complain if you do take other damage- they're bits of delrin, not a force field- but they often do protect more. There'd be very little point in them for road use if they didn't, given the SV's design.

philh
22-12-06, 08:57 AM
northwind, thanks very much for your excellent post! I take on board everything you say. Can you post further details of where to get those bungs?

BTW - Lovely SV!

Duck-man
22-12-06, 11:37 AM
http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l256/KHatcher_2006/Motorbike/DSDS.jpg

Thats where mine are :D

I should have bought the R&G ones but i got Bloc ones instead cause they where cheaper and i got new pegs & bar ends with them

mysteryjimbo
22-12-06, 11:40 AM
under the seat











:lol:

Razor
22-12-06, 03:06 PM
Mine are... yes, still on top of the fridge!

gazman
22-12-06, 04:02 PM
http://upload4.postimage.org/1986439/IMG_0559.jpg (http://upload4.postimage.org/1986439/photo_hosting.html)

here's where mine are, HTH.

Gaz

MikeC
22-12-06, 04:52 PM
my nextdoor neigbour has a white saxo too

That's not a Saxo, it's a Vauxhall Astra of 1991 vintage if i'm not mistaken...?

northwind
22-12-06, 10:31 PM
Can you post further details of where to get those bungs?


Those are Motosliders- http://www.motosliders.com/index.html

Not the only game in town, I reckon the old JHS ones were better (but now sadly not available) and GSG Moko get great reports too. TSM found a company called Motovation (I think) that Bike Johnny sell- seem to be basically identical to the motosliders without the US shipping. And R&G, well, I could be biased so don't take my word for it. I had the old R&Gs (that everyone else hated) and they worked fantastically for me, so obviously mileage may vary ;)

Oh- and thank you :wink: