I HATE lane hoggers

[skint]

Don't you just hate people who hog the outside or middle lanes of motorways?

I travel the M4 at 6.30am most mornings (by car) and reverse the route around 5.00pm. In the morning the road is pretty clear but even with nothing - I mean absolutely nothing around them, some git is sat in the middle lane, why? On so many occasions when its busier the outside lane is full of cars overtaking the dozy twonker sat unnecessarily in the middle lane. last night I undertook two cars simultaneously and I was only doing 65mph! If I had tried to overtake them I would have had to push into the outside lane cos it was busy out there. I flashed them before I undertook and waited, flashed again and so. Even after passing them and other cars that had overtaken them and then whipped back to the nearside lane (as if the make a point) the daft dozy beggers still sat there. :twisted: :evil: :twisted: :evil:

I was called out at 8.30pm Chrimbo Eve. Sod all on the road apart from the obligatory one dozy dorothy in the middle lane - WHY!

Sorry chumps - but I feel better for saying all that! :D

You hear so many people complain about this; on the TV, Radio etc. Everyone I talk too has the same gripe - so who are these lane hoggers. have they never heard the complaints, never read articles? Who are they?

And here's another thing why do women in 4x4's sit in the outside lane with nothing to overetake? And they aren't always blonde either! :? (awaits torrent of female abuse) I'm sure it isn't always the fairer sex but just my recent experiences.

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 :evil: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, :) That's better :D

Christmas spirit well and truly lost but ever hopeful for a better 2007!! :lol:

[busasean]

because they are frightened of the hard shoulder monster!

...or more likely because they are as thick as two short planks.

[arenalife]

Sad to say but many people do not have a high level of awareness, they simply don't understand the system and cling to old myths like 'I'm doing 70 so shouldn't be in the slow lane' and similar.

I've been guilty of using poor perception on the bike too, coming up behind a car in the middle lane and thinking why doesn't he move over into the gap?? Then looking that I'm doing 110 and he's prob tonging along at 90 and staying in the middle lane cos that's pretty fast in a car and he'll soon be passing his own traffic.

Then there's just knobs who think they pay their tax and are doing 70 so everyone else is in the wrong and they can do what they like.

[scooby2102]

drive approx 25k miles per year, probably about 20ish on the motorways up and down the UK.

Dont know what you guys think but I have got to admit, the standard of driving is absolutely deplorable with a fair percentage of drivers.

Not perfect myself by any means but again,some of the driving is shocking.

Had a guy the other night blasting his horn after accelerating harshly to try and close a gap to stop me getting in lane !

He was approx 4 car lengths behind and the road markings are fairly clear with the right pointing curvey arrow on the road suggesting the traffic should merge.

As soon as I try to merge, the ****witt swings into action :shock:

A few choice words later, he ****ed off, probably to annoy some other driver with his ignorance.

To get back on track, yep, the middle lane tubes are really annoying. The Police were supposed to be clamping down on this but since there are hardly any traffif cops left, doubt if much was done about it

[Viper]

I do Somerset to London twice a week in a transit with a trailer. I stick to the inside lane unless an overtake is needed. Sometimes this is not possible because some arese is sat in the middle lane oblivious to whats going on around him/her, thus boxing me in. I the lose all revs and lose speed :evil: .
Hate em, bloody hate em :evil:

[timwilky]

I drive about 30,000 miles a year and standards are indeed dropping.

Classic was the other day on the m6 toll. I was making progress on a near empty motorway :wink: on the inside lane and had to cross 2 lanes to overtake the middle lane hogger who was doing a legal 70. I then pulled back into the inside lane. Problem was that it was clear for at least 2 miles in front of this middle lane hogger and I watched them stay put in my rear view until they were out of sight.

Bloody annoying I know. I have even heard drivers referring to the left hand lane as "The Trucks Lane" . What happened to those public information films on TV they used to have telling drivers that the outside lanes were for overtaking only?.

I think the problem may well be those who hog the middle lane tend to be nervous motorway drivers and don't want to change lane in order to overtake and don't realise the obstruction they are causing. Worst are the outside lane hoggers. The 70mph middle laner who feels that they need to move further over because of a stream of trucks etc limited to 56. They sit there for miles at 70 clear in front and 5 miles of stacked traffic behind.

About time the limit became at least 90 and undertaking permitted.

[Jelster]

I'm sure a lot of it is down to awareness and the inability to think for others.

Many drivers just are not aware of what is going on around them... How many times have you come up behind a guy in lane 3, and hasn't pulled over, because he just never looks in his mirrors ? Since I've had the new car my Xenon headlamps work wonders for people like this :roll:

It's also quite clear that most drivers don't think of others. If I have a car coming up behind me at pace, I indicate left and move over as soon as I can. I'd rather he be out of my way than be agitated sitting behind me.

There is a game on the M25 called "leave the space", because anytime you leave anywhere near a safe distance between you and the car in front, somebody jumps in from the left and takes up your safety zone :x It's down to others just not giving a **** about anybody else, that's all it is.

Standards are very poor, but even worse in many countries ! Mind you, motorway driving in Germany is actually a pleasure :shock:

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[Rob S (Yella)]

How about a silver (fog colour) 4X4 in the outside lane on the A2 doing about 45 in the fog with no lights.

He was nearly rear ended by a BMW/Audi doing 90+ also without lights.

Both prats & both nearly dead.

I don't even think the 4X4 driver was aware of the car locked up screeching from 90 to 40 inches from his rear.

I eventually undertook the 4X4 and sounded my horn on passing and was given a confused sort of why are you beeping me look!!!!!

But then again the standard driving test does not include motorway driving.

[Razor]

People are stupid, there's no way of making them understand unless they get hurt. Even then they always protest it's not their fault. I blame the parents.

[Beenz]

Bottomline is that it's life. In the UK there are so many bread heads about that belive that the three lanes are 1= Trucks 2=everyone else 3=rich people in fast cars and chavs in slow ones. You can explain to them all you like and they will not change there view. These are the same err (U rated site right) ... "ice holes" that sit at the front of a traffic jam on fast country A roads doing 47 MPH in a 60 limit. These same cheeses that ALWAYS have to reach a complete halt at roundabouts even if the joining roads are clear all the way to the coast (all of em).

I won't even get started on the caravan crew who travel in groups of three thats against the advice of the caravan club or the idiots that pull out to overtake the vehicle in front, shoot past it than match the speed of the thing they've just overtaken and pull in just at the last safe point (stops anyone else getting past)

Oh and then theres.... sorry I'm drifiting off topic.... :evil: Not so much of a problem on the bike :wink:

The other day I was doing 50 on the M4 and people were still overtaking me :wink: (joke)

Good job I'm a placid rider and don't get wound up easily. :roll:

[skint]

There we go again tonight, two middle laners, dorothy's in nissan Microbes, or whatever, sat 3 inches from the screen. Can't use rear view mirror cos they're sat on the bleeding dashboard! Miles of unused tarmac to the left. I overtake then see, oh life is just a bitch, Mr Volvo tanking on my rear. So I clear the dorothy's and pull right over to inside lane with flat cap passing me in the middle until that is he gets nose to nose, then in full flat cap style he slows down and boxes me in. :evil:

Now after dealing with the umpteenth dorothy this tactic narks me a bit so revenge is sought. I overtake him and deal out same trick until I see his brake lights come on - bingo, so I floor the footrest and ton it home. Oh the simple pleasures one gets from time to time :lol:

Life can be good, so good, but will be better when bikey comes out to play :twisted:

[Nostrils]

Its a daily occurence for me on the M25 from Jct 14 to Jct 8 and I agree very annoying. The law has changed on the types of offence and undertaking will now be seen as dangerous driving, as well as tailgating!! (mind you, with minimum police on our roads, only the unlucky will get caught)

I understand too that the driving test is being revamped to include some kind of motorway driving, after someone has passed - Hopefully new drivers being taught by competent instructors will learn how to use a motorway properly.

[Razor]

Shooting is too good for 'em...

[glade]

If all those people who go around writing "Gouranga" on motorway bridges wrote "Keep Left" we'd all be better off.

[Ceri JC]

If all those people who go around writing "Gouranga" on motorway bridges wrote "Keep Left" we'd all be better off.

PMSL! :lol:

[Tris]

We must be reasonable, these people are going to overtake a slower vehicle that might appear in about 15 miles time so are preparing in good time. No sudden maneouvers (sp) for them - Muppets :evil: :evil: :evil:


PS

Must send a letter to MP for roads

"Dear sir

In future please only build 2 lane motorways as half the numpty drivers out there only use lanes 2 & 3 anyway. You could save the country £ Billions!!!!!!!!"

[hovis]

[quote="Beenz"]Bottomline is that it's life. In the UK there are so many bread heads about quote]

are you picking on ME again :shock:




:lol:

[Rob S (Yella)]

If all drivers used correct lane discipline the UK would gain the equivalent of 700 miles of new motorway.

[Beenz]

[quote=Beenz]Bottomline is that it's life. In the UK there are so many bread heads about quote]

are you picking on ME again :shock:




:lol:

Not at all buddy. don't worry mate. Unfortunate use of words in the company of Mr Crusty :wink:
Hope you enjoyed your break.

Now time to stick a few more pins in that voodoo doll of that crazy old loaf with the Nissan Microbe...... (the widest small car in the world)

[Heed]

If all those people who go around writing "Gouranga" on motorway bridges wrote "Keep Left" we'd all be better off.

What's that all about anyway? I've only seen it once. (A1 South near Leeds fact fans).

[DarrenSV650S]

All you guys should think yourselves lucky that you actually have 3 lanes! At least you've got the option to undertake. It always happens to me on the dual carriageway. Some guy in the overtaking lane going at EXACTLY the same speed as the other guy :evil:
On the bike this isn't a problem, I just filter :twisted:
But in the car your boogared :!: Got no option but to wait for them to get out the way. It just annoys me in the car because my wee 1.2L takes an age to get up to any speed, and as soon as it does, some twonk pulls out to overtake at 2mph more than the other car :evil:

[Heed]

It's easy mate. A faster car is the answer. Old quick cars are cheap now.

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/used-prices/Valuation.aspx?deriv=15769&plate=58&buysell=buy

[DarrenSV650S]

Old quick cars are cheap now.
Not on my insurance they aint. My 98 1.2 clio is £1173.48 third party only :smt087

[Heed]

How old are you?

[DarrenSV650S]

20

[Heed]

Ah right. Saying that the missus is only 21 and is insuring a 1.4 polo (P reg mind) for £520 a year.

[wheelnut]

I hate lane hoggers from a truck drivers perspective.

Before you all shout at me about trucks overtaking at 00.01kmh faster than the other for 74 miles :P

I drive my truck and like your motorbikes it is fitted with a limiter. The bike is limited to 186mph, the truck is limited to 56 mph. Dont tell me you wouldn't try to pass your mate on a bike at 186 and a half :D

Seriously. I do drive many thousands of miles per year throughout Europe and lane disipline is abysmal in the UK. Most of the major German Autobahns are all 2 lane and they dont have speed limits in some regions although 130kmh is becoming pretty standard now.

Lane disipline and reading road markings is taken much more seriously abroad. Joining motorways in the UK is a joke where Aunt Nelly believes she has the right to try to force a 44 tonne truck into the 2nd lane so she can drive at 55 mph to Aunt Agathas without looking in her mirror.

Just to remind you all that Trucks are limited to 56mph in the 2 nearside lanes and coaches are limited to 60mph using the same lanes. A non HGV truck with a driver who has probably just past his test or is too ill to keep his vocational licence can speed down the outer lane at 70 mph within millimetres of your back tyre :shock:

I undertake regularly if I come across some old granny or a company rep dawdling along at 50 mph in the centre lane, either picking her nose or trying to find some contact on his laptop.

I feel better for that :P

[mac608]

And to cheer you all up there is talk of making undertaking a dangerous driving offense -this is because dangerous driving comes with a two-year maximum prison sentence, whereas careless driving can only be dealt with by a community order or a fine

The quote is from this http://www.whatcar.com/news-article.aspx?NA=223620

[Rob S (Yella)]

Sorry to drag this up agin but how about.

60 mph hogging the middle lane whilst.

Talking on a mobile...

and eating a sandwhich......

With the sat nav right in front of the drivers eyes. .......I know a lot of drivers put the sat nav high in the middle of the screen which is silly but this was literally in front of her face.

[Baph]

Since the thread has been brought up again, I had a good one this morning. Not so much of a lane hogger, but an entire-road hogger :evil:

Llanfairfechan roundabout on the A55. Those of you that know the area, know that it's a 70mph dual carriageway, which has two (arguably unsafe) roundabouts for junctions. This means everyone slams the anchors on late, brakes & goes around the roundabout. When it's quiet, everyone goes from left lane, pretty much straight lines the roundabout (except you can't, otherwise you hit those pesky metal cheverons) and carries on.

The roundabouts are a 30mph zone (IIRC), but that's only 300 yds from the roundabout & back to 70 immediately after, so most folks (myself guilty as charged) straight line it when possible & keep speed up.

This morning, I'm coming up to the roundabout, in the right lane, approaching fast, and there's a car in the left lane, ahead of me, but I'm gaining on them, pretty sharpish too.

Yup, you guessed it, they straight lined the roundabout, lucky for me I've come to expect it, so I was positioned pretty safely (arguably) just off their rear bumper. I could of probably leant forwards & written something silly on the back of their car (like "Wash me" etc) I was so close. They didn't indicate, so it was obvious that they hadn't seen me. Toot on the new loud horn & they jumped a little, coming out of the roundabout & I'm flashing like a fokker. On the gas, round them & make use of a hand signal my DAS instructor said I shouldn't do on my test, and past.

Yes I do it too, but for feck's sake LOOK before you move! Idiots!

[ricky_t]

There is a reason for this problem!!!!

On a busy road, if you pull into the lane adjacent to the hard shoulder you may not get out when you approach a lorry doing 55mph! The car I drive takes about a year to go from 55 to 75 so the gap required to pull out must be large enough.

You can't use the MSM technique otherwise you will never get out so I use the MSMM, mirror, signal, mirror then manouvre.

On a clear road there is no excuse for lane hogging even if you are in a £75K range rover HSE Sport supercharged.

[Dan]

And on the third day, thread rose again ;)

[Ceri JC]

I think the problem may well be those who hog the middle lane tend to be nervous motorway drivers and don't want to change lane in order to overtake and don't realise the obstruction they are causing.

Yep, either inattentive/lazy or timid drivers usually. To quote one I know, "It's dangerous to change lanes all the time".](*,)

[ASM-Forever]

I don't know where/when you guys are driving, but the motorways are always busy whenever i'm on them. :(

I agree that people who are static in one lane are annoying. But surely the people who sit in the outside lane at circa 70 are the worst. There seem to be a large number of this form of muppet everytime im on the M4 westbound.

[ooger]

I'd like to add my two-penneth-worth for that well known group of motorists who enjoy nothing more than a good slow drive past the scene of any blue light related incident (regardless of whether its a motorway or dual carriageway or whether it caused a 10 mile tailback or not)......then seem to forget where they are, and fail to accelerate. :smt070

Happened the other week. 10 minutes crawling along in the car until got past the Polliss, then Mr Sunday Driver-out-on-the-wrong-day remained at about 20 in the right hand lane of the dual carriageway. I like my horn, I think he cacked himself when I held it on until he moved to the left.

(I'm sure he didn't look either, so if there'd been a sideswipe that probably woulda been my fault :smt017)

Thanks for listening.