View Full Version : It's not big and it's not clever.
Peter Henry
05-01-07, 08:54 PM
Apologies if repost but worth a viewing anyways...let the heated discussion commence!
http://www.dailymotion.com/novattitude/video/xgb2i_ducati-996-vs-bimota-sb8r
DarrenSV650S
05-01-07, 09:09 PM
The cameraman really likes riding on white paint doesn't he :shock:
socommk23
05-01-07, 09:21 PM
both the guys are absolute idiots!
could have been so much worse with the traffic and cyclists!
they shouldnt be on the road
andyaikido
05-01-07, 09:27 PM
All good fun untill the crash.
How much do bimota fairings cost? :shock:
Could've been a lot worse tho, if he'd crashed any earlier he would've missed the barrier completely.
busasean
05-01-07, 09:40 PM
early fast bikes magazine video if i'm not mistaken! :D all good stuff.
I would like to make it quite clear that neither of those riders are members of the Soho Massive (even if you might have thought so) :lol: .
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DarrenSV650S
05-01-07, 09:48 PM
They were lucky fookers to get off as lightly as they did. They were just begging for it.....
DarrenSV650S
05-01-07, 09:59 PM
Sorry to keep posting in this but the more I see it the more I'm amazed by the people at the end that just drive/cycle past :shock: They could at least offer a hand
When I was out for a rideout earlier this year with another forum there was a serious accident where one of our riders came off. And the amount of cars driving past, at full speed! was unbelievable. It was on a 60mph road on tight corners and hardly any even bothered to slow down. Most just looked at us as if to say "what are you doing in the middle of the road, get out our way" :evil:
jonboy99
05-01-07, 11:18 PM
That video is old..
redlavachips
05-01-07, 11:34 PM
great driver from both bikerz until tha one in front , judged the corner wrong and slid on the dirt.
lucky to come come out with only a few bruises but you wouldnt be happy about your bike, :P
I really enjoyed this - until the end... terrific skill but don't things go sour quick.
northwind
06-01-07, 12:39 AM
Yep, magnificent bad riding :) Not, for most of it, as unsafe as it looks either I reckon.
One thing that's not obvious is that they usually had spotters and support crew all over when they were filming- seen the twin test where the guy wipes out the Firestorm trying to keep up with the real sports twins? There's a clip of one of the other riders tearing back up the section they've just ridden and telling everyone that someone's down in there, frinstance. And it looked like they knew the guys who were helping at the crash. They reconned their rides pretty exhaustvely too, cleaned gravel etc... Not saying that makes it OK, but it's not just two guys going nuts.
I'm kind of glad I can't ride like that, because if I could I reckon I might, and it catches up on you...
netsurfer
06-01-07, 02:03 AM
I'm kind of glad I can't ride like that
Me too, I think if I could, I would sell my bike and never buy another :shock:
Pete
Enjoyed that. Reminds me of how I used to ride. (Yeah right).
Good skills, maybe a little to hot for a public road, but it happens some times when your in good company and having fun. :lol:
I've seen worse on the Selkent rideouts! :lol:
Jelster
06-01-07, 10:40 AM
For the most part, these guys were riding without any other traffic on the roads, so it's not as "anti social" as you think. I for one ride much harder on the empty roads of France than I ever do in the UK.
I've seen worse on the Selkent rideouts! :lol:
Well, it sort of reminds me of a particular Saturday up North last year :oops:
Great riding, and it shows that even with very skilled riders the line between having fun and injury is quite thin. Be careful out there !
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I for one ride much harder on the empty roads of France than I ever do in the UK.
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Does that mean that you actually get up to the designated speed limit over there then. :wink:
Jelster
06-01-07, 11:03 AM
I for one ride much harder on the empty roads of France than I ever do in the UK.
Does that mean that you actually get up to the designated speed limit over there then. :wink:
:smt102 You mean there's speed limits out there ? :lol:
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I for one ride much harder on the empty roads of France than I ever do in the UK.
Does that mean that you actually get up to the designated speed limit over there then. :wink:
:smt102 You mean there's speed limits out there ? :lol:
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Nice come back. :lol:
That's a pretty impressive video of some top road riding. Admittedly they shouldn't do it as they are putting other road users at risk but they are both skilful riders. The guy who came off looks like he would have made it if the bike had been 6 inches to the left and the rear had stayed on the black stuff.
I loved it when the commentary says "not what you need when you only broke your back 2 months ago" :shock: :shock: :shock:
Some people have more courage/confidence than common sense but it still looked like good fun, and those 996 Ducatis :love:
Warthog
06-01-07, 01:45 PM
The cyclists probably just went past because they had just been viciously sped past moments earlier by two crazies! Probably shaking their heads and thinking they deserve it. Personally, I thought it was some awesome riding, but at those speeds on publics roads, something was bound to go wrong sadly.
Bloody irresponsible(proven by the own fault crash) but, Wow! If I could ride like that I would - and probably not last a week! Those guys must have adrenaline coming out og their ears!!
Just watching this again and it really is an awesome display. These guys are obviously 100% confident in each other's skills. The one point I criticise is that even given that, they are riding too close. The second couldn't stop in time or take avoidance action. Even with people you know well, more space required.
Well Oiled
07-01-07, 10:16 AM
Just watching this again and it really is an awesome display. These guys are obviously 100% confident in each other's skills. The one point I criticise is that even given that, they are riding too close. The second couldn't stop in time or take avoidance action. Even with people you know well, more space required.
Agree it's awesome skills but surely the main point to be criticised is that riding like this is not for roads that others are using at the time? As someone who rides a pushbike quite a bit along country roads I'd be bloody furious if I was passed in the way those guys passed a couple of cyclists. I'm not that surprised they didn't stop to see how they were after the crash (though I would have done even if they'd p*****d me off like that).
Cheers Keith
Blue_SV650S
07-01-07, 10:37 AM
Awesome bit of footage!! 8) Good to see some people really 'trying' for once, things were deffo getting more and more ragged!! 8)
Why don't we have roads like that (and that deserted) in the UK??? :cry:
Looking at the roads, I noticed pretty early on that an off at any point would have probably been very nasty!! He was very very lucky to pick that spot and be essentially uninjured! :shock:
If you ride hard, you are gonna come a cropper from time to time. I'd rather go like that mind than into the back of a London Taxi!! :roll:
I wanna go to them roads!!! Anyone fancy a trip to France?!!? 8)
They were lucky, really lucky. Top bit of riding and great filming too.
Just watching this again and it really is an awesome display. These guys are obviously 100% confident in each other's skills. The one point I criticise is that even given that, they are riding too close. The second couldn't stop in time or take avoidance action. Even with people you know well, more space required.
Agree it's awesome skills but surely the main point to be criticised is that riding like this is not for roads that others are using at the time? As someone who rides a pushbike quite a bit along country roads I'd be bloody furious if I was passed in the way those guys passed a couple of cyclists. I'm not that surprised they didn't stop to see how they were after the crash (though I would have done even if they'd p*****d me off like that).
Cheers Keith
I reckon they'd done a sweep of the road. Most unusual to pass so few vehicles, even in France.
Jelster
07-01-07, 08:42 PM
If it was a bit of video for one of the mags (as mentioned earlier) I reckon they would have had been in radio contact, or at least have a couple of support vehicles that would have given them the all clear.
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Steve H
09-01-07, 03:52 PM
Ah yes, I remember that. If I recall, just before the film started I went past them
both on the SV and they were trying to catch me up. :wink:
Just watched this clip, and whilst I'm no where near their skill/confidence levels, I see nothing at all wrong with their riding, except that it was on a public road.
Awesome skill, and I'd love to ride like that, on a closed road or a track. Sadly I doubt I ever will, and I'll certainly never try on a public road.
Can the poster please deliver his considered opinion?
kwak zzr
09-01-07, 06:34 PM
only just seen this :roll: great piece of riding but good for the track and not so good for the road :wink: a similar thing happened to me coming down the tanant valley (Ed will know this)
riding too fast came over a cattle grid couldn't brake enuf while cranked over and went grass tracking in a welsh hedge but gladly kept the bike the right way up :oops:
Fizzy Fish
09-01-07, 08:27 PM
those bikes sound awesome! i think i need a 1000cc twin...
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those bikes sound awesome! i think i need a 1000cc twin...
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Too late my dear. You had your chance but decided on a little pocket rocket instead. :roll:
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Fizzy Fish
09-01-07, 08:45 PM
those bikes sound awesome! i think i need a 1000cc twin...
:smt060
Too late my dear. You had your chance but decided on a little pocket rocket instead. :roll:
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can't i have both?? [-o<
Biker Biggles
09-01-07, 08:49 PM
Have your cake and eat it?
Why not?I do. :lol:
You need to see the other early FASTBIKES mag videos if you think that is bad :lol: There is one where they have been wheelying a firestorm for miles, through villages etc still on back wheel. Till he did not realise his mate had stopped so wheelied into the back of him, snapped the forks and headstock off it and both laughed it off! There is another with a ZX9 which they had already flipped at a toll point and badly buckled its front wheel but they still used it for the blast with on board camera till it flew off the road into a tree and the rider just missed the tree, all on camera! Response? they just laughed!! I used to love all that but now it makes me cringe about how I used to ride :oops:
Peter Henry
10-01-07, 03:24 PM
Can the poster please deliver his considered opinion?
Well as requested.....
No matter what the PC or Road Safety campaigners might say...those boys display exceptional riding skills. However on the odd occasion before the mishap they were,( even for them) getting just a little too frisky. A couple of slightly ragged moments and braking very close to each other.
I feel sure that they had scout ridden that road on many occasions before turning up the wick and having a good old blast. If they had not, or did not have radio contact as previously suggested then the whole affair was completely foolhardy.
The video does though indicate that often great skill means higher speeds which in the majority of cases means higher risk. The higher speed when canyon running or bend riding is always raising the chances that you just might be heading for an off. Indeed the stats show that speed is the biggest factor for "single vehicle" incidents and my regular track,(loved by our own Ed :wink: ) sees rider and bike scattered around the place on more than one occasion every weekend.
On occasion I ride what could be considered by some as "dangerously quick" but even on those rides there will still be people who will go past me. :shock: I guess it's all down to the individuals perception really. :?
Awesome riding. Really amazing.
One word though...
TRACKDAY.
(or is that two words? :roll: :lol: )
rictus01
11-01-07, 02:25 AM
Watched the vid, and two things come to mind sloppy lines and braking distance.
right on though two then :roll:
Cheers Mark.
Blue_SV650S
11-01-07, 10:13 AM
Awesome riding. Really amazing.
One word though...
TRACKDAY.
(or is that two words? :roll: :lol: )
It gives a very different 'buzz' doing it on open road though ...
loved watching that, as much as anything for the sun and warm weather! Liked the wahooooo when his mate went wide! shame about the end, but could have been much worse. Not the best games to play on public road, but makes great viewing !
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