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furrybean
15-01-07, 08:14 PM
Anyone here any good at hyperbolic functions and complex number?

Ive got a question that I'm struggling on...

Given that sinjA = jsinhA, show that the hyperbolic identity corresponding to sin3θ = 3sinθ - 4sin3θ is: sinh3A = 3sinh A + 4sinh3A by writing jA for θ

:shock:

furrybean
15-01-07, 08:42 PM
](*,) ](*,) :help: :help: #-o

cuffy
15-01-07, 08:46 PM
In mathematics, the hyperbolic functions are analogs of the ordinary trigonometric, or circular, functions. The basic hyperbolic functions are the hyperbolic sine "sinh", and the hyperbolic cosine "cosh", from which are derived the hyperbolic tangent "tanh", etc., in analogy to the derived trigonometric functions. The inverse functions are the inverse hyperbolic sine "arsinh" (also called "arсsinh" or "asinh") and so on.

HTH
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furrybean
15-01-07, 08:47 PM
Close but no cigar...

Thanks for the help but it needs to be rearranged using those identities somehow.

Cheers anyway

wyrdness
15-01-07, 09:16 PM
Try PMing Professor. He's a Professor of Mathematics.

Fearg
15-01-07, 09:28 PM
Anyone here any good at hyperbolic functions and complex number?

Ive got a question that I'm struggling on...

Given that sinjA = jsinhA, show that the hyperbolic identity corresponding to sin3θ = 3sinθ - 4sin3θ is: sinh3A = 3sinh A + 4sinh3A by writing jA for θ

:shock:

Is that question right? should it be sin3θ = 3sinθ - 4sin^3θ (i.e. 4 sin cubed theta)?

furrybean
15-01-07, 09:31 PM
yup, thats what I got in front of me. I got the answer except I cant get the -4sin3θ to + 4sin3θ

Fearg
15-01-07, 09:36 PM
Anyone here any good at hyperbolic functions and complex number?

Ive got a question that I'm struggling on...

Given that sinjA = jsinhA, show that the hyperbolic identity corresponding to sin3θ = 3sinθ - 4sin3θ is: sinh3A = 3sinh A + 4sinh3A by writing jA for θ

:shock:

sin3θ = 3sinθ - 4sin^3θ

substituting jA for θ gives

sin3jA = 3sinjA - 4sin^3jA

since sinjA = jsinhA

jsinh3A = 3jsinhA - 4j^3sinh^3A

divding thorough by j gives

sinh3A = 3sinhA - 4j^2sinh^3A

but as j^2 = -1

sinh3A=3sinhA+4sinh^3A

Jabba
15-01-07, 09:39 PM
sin3θ = 3sinθ - 4sin^3θ

substituting jA for θ gives

sin3jA = 3sinjA - 4sin^3jA

since sinjA = jsinhA

jsinh3A = 3jsinhA - 4j^3sinh^3A

divding thorough by j gives

sinh3A = 3sinhA - 4j^2sinh^3A

but as j^2 = -1

sinh3A=3sinhA+4sinh^3A

Geek alert :shock:

Fearg
15-01-07, 09:41 PM
sin3θ = 3sinθ - 4sin^3θ

substituting jA for θ gives

sin3jA = 3sinjA - 4sin^3jA

since sinjA = jsinhA

jsinh3A = 3jsinhA - 4j^3sinh^3A

divding thorough by j gives

sinh3A = 3sinhA - 4j^2sinh^3A

but as j^2 = -1

sinh3A=3sinhA+4sinh^3A

Geek alert :shock:

:oops: :oops: :oops:

Jabba
15-01-07, 09:42 PM
:oops: :oops: :oops:

:smt056

furrybean
15-01-07, 09:45 PM
It aint cubed on the assignment sheet but do u reckon it might me wrong.

I got to this

sin3θ = 3sinθ - 4sin3θ

substituting jA for θ gives

sin3jA = 3sinjA - 4(sin3jA)

since sinjA = jsinhA

jsinh3A = 3jsinhA - 4(jsinh3A)

jsinh3A = 3jsinhA - 4jsinh3A

just that negative sign!!!

Fearg
15-01-07, 09:48 PM
It aint cubed on the assignment sheet but do u reckon it might me wrong.

I got to this

sin3θ = 3sinθ - 4sin3θ

substituting jA for θ gives

sin3jA = 3sinjA - 4(sin3jA)

since sinjA = jsinhA

jsinh3A = 3jsinhA - 4(jsinh3A)

jsinh3A = 3jsinhA - 4jsinh3A

just that negative sign!!!

Personally yes I think the assignment sheet is wrong, won't be the first time! or even the last! :lol:
Don't sweat over it anymore

furrybean
15-01-07, 09:50 PM
well cheers for the help. Can you go that with the 4sin3jA and put the 4 like 4(sin3jA) so it goes to 4jsinh3A

Fearg
15-01-07, 10:07 PM
well cheers for the help. Can you go that with the 4sin3jA and put the 4 like 4(sin3jA) so it goes to 4jsinh3A

I got to this

sin3θ = 3sinθ - 4sin3θ

substituting jA for θ gives

sin3jA = 3sinjA - 4sin3jA

since sinjA = jsinhA

jsinh3A = 3jsinhA - 4jsinh3A

just that negative sign!!!

I would leave the brackets out personally (as above)

then divide thru by j

sinh3A = 3sinhA - 4sinh3A

but like you say that's not what is on your sheet

furrybean
15-01-07, 10:13 PM
Ok well cheers for the help matey :thumbsup:

Fearg
15-01-07, 10:36 PM
The proof is in the text book, which have just dug out and blown the cobwebs off :D



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furrybean
15-01-07, 10:42 PM
Minter, well I now know they dont make up the qu themselves.

What book is that?

Cheers

Fearg
15-01-07, 10:52 PM
Minter, well I now know they dont make up the qu themselves.

What book is that?

Cheers

Higher Engineering Mathematics by John Bird

what are you studying? :study:

Rob S (Yella)
16-01-07, 12:00 AM
The answer is

42

furrybean
16-01-07, 07:27 AM
Minter, well I now know they dont make up the qu themselves.

What book is that?

Cheers

Higher Engineering Mathematics by John Bird

what are you studying? :study:

Electrical Engineering. What were you studying?

Fearg
16-01-07, 08:34 AM
Electrical Engineering. What were you studying?

Mechanical Engineering #-o

thor
16-01-07, 08:52 AM
I did that stuff when I was 17. Shame I've forgotten all of it... :(

Alpinestarhero
16-01-07, 09:02 AM
Mmmm maths, highly sexy subject.

Not good with hyperbolic functions; remind me what they look like on a graph though? Maybe I can have a go after my exams are finished (when does it need to be done by, and whats it for?).

Matt

Alpinestarhero
16-01-07, 09:03 AM
sin3θ = 3sinθ - 4sin^3θ

substituting jA for θ gives

sin3jA = 3sinjA - 4sin^3jA

since sinjA = jsinhA

jsinh3A = 3jsinhA - 4j^3sinh^3A

divding thorough by j gives

sinh3A = 3sinhA - 4j^2sinh^3A

but as j^2 = -1

sinh3A=3sinhA+4sinh^3A

Geek alert :shock:

Maths is a wonderful subject, masters of it should be worshiped as gods :D

Matt

furrybean
16-01-07, 08:16 PM
BTW it WAS cubed!!!!

Fearg
16-01-07, 08:45 PM
:smt023 :smt023 :smt023