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Marshall
23-01-07, 12:10 PM
is there anybody out there that can help me with my overclocking problems?
im currently running a gigabyte DS4 mobo, with 2gb 10th anniversary crucial ram, and a E6300
ive had it running at 3.2GHz stable for 5 hours (using the orthos blend test) but if i turn off the pc and reboot in the morning the orthos test fails inside 10 mins?? any suggestions its driving me nutts
for all those people who hadn't got a clue what i just said, carry on
northwind
23-01-07, 12:22 PM
A fan not starting on reboot, maybe? It's an odd one. I don't use blend myself, I don't trust it- I've had mine blend all day then fail on the single process tests. Are you seeing high temps when it fails, or just your usual? I've heard of Orthos failing when an intel chip throttles itself, but never had it happen.
PS, Crucial Anniversary, MMM.
Personally, I wouldn't bother overclocking. IMO little gain, lots of effort (as you're experiencing). I'd prefer to use the machine than spend hours tweaking it (much the same as the bike really).
However, if you're not seeing high temps when it dies a death, I reckon your PSU might not be up to the job of sucking juice out of it so early on. The capacitors etc discharge slowly over time (eg, over night) & a spike from a capacitor that's not charging properly can cause a machine to assume the national grid had a heart attack. There's dozens of other components in the PSU that would do the same.
When you originally overclocked the PSU would of been 'hot' still from the previous boot(s), and it's 'cooled' overnight.
Might not be the solution, but I've seen similar many a time.
Marshall
23-01-07, 12:29 PM
on these new mobo the cpu fan doesn't start until it needs to, and under 100% load it only running at 51oC in TAT. im going to try re seating everything tonight, as ive heard that if the cpu cooler is on too tight it can cause problems.
what do you use for your benchmarking Northwind? prime95?
on a plus note when i got it running properly, i did the 3Dmark06 test and my E6300 got a higher score than my mates E6600 :lol: :lol:
if only i could get it to run without a problem
wyntrblue
23-01-07, 01:57 PM
51c at full load is really rather warm...
i run an A64duel core in a sff pc (shuttle) with a x1950 graphics card. i have my chip clocked to 3.8ghz on air and it bearly gets up to 40c (full load running 24x7). ambeint room temp is held at 21c
i would be really unhappy if my cpu got that hot
Marshall
23-01-07, 02:06 PM
51oC at a full 100% orthos load isnt that hot, its pretty cool for a C2D most people see 55-60oC im running the Tuniq tower 120 cpu cooler, prob the best air cooler on the market, so temps arnt an issue
the PSU shouldn't be a problem its a brand new corsair 520W jobbie.
the reason i went with the core 2 duo (c2d) chip is it over clocks brilliantly i mean ive got a 1870MHz chip running at 3200MHz so there's a vast improvement in performance. im getting 204fps in CS:S where as at stock was getting about 130fps.
ive been given a few pointers on the overclockers forum, im going to try relaxing my ram timings and see how it goes.
im hoping with 5-5-5-15 timings i might be able to see a bit more :P
northwind
23-01-07, 02:10 PM
Nah, I just bench with 3Dmark, I'm not playing the numbers game, just want a quick rule of thumb. So don't try and impress me with your superpi speeds ;)
Baph, I know where you're coming from but I spent about an hour total setting up my current overclock, plus running some stress tests overnight, to give me a 25% increase in FSB (it's a Pentium D so you can't mess with modifiers, just 14xFSB), clock speed from 2.8 to 3.5ghz and RAM from 400 effective to 500) You notice that sort of improvement in absolutely everything- frame rates, shutdown times, big number crunches... I could've spent £150 to replace the chip and got a slowdown, put it that way.
I've got a bit more time invested in setting up the cooling, but I do that anyway for noise control- mine's quieter at its high overclock now than it was as standard with just the case fans and a Freezer 7 cooler.
And with E6300s, it's an awful shame not to overclock them, it's just so easy usually. 'Specially with a Gigabyte board, because you can use the horrible Easytune software, not like the old days of hacking around in BIOS (though I do that once I've got a good setting). It's not really sensible to try and milk every last bit of power out, but you can easily get a real world boost.
'course, I'm incapable of leaving anything alone ;)
northwind
23-01-07, 02:30 PM
Yep, 51's nothing for a Core 2, normal operating temp really. Wyntrblue, where do you ake your temps from? Marshall's TAT numbers are true core temps, they usually read about 15-20 higher than a surface pickup will...
Are you on OCUK, Marshall? Corsair, Tuniq Tower, Anniversary ram, DS4, E6300, it's like the Official OCUK spec ;)
Marshall
23-01-07, 02:40 PM
Are you on OCUK, Marshall? Corsair, Tuniq Tower, Anniversary ram, DS4, E6300, it's like the Official OCUK spec ;)
yup, there just down the road from me, so i got all the bits from there aswell.
just wish it would run propperly so i can stop messing about with it. The ill start saving for the new ATI R600 GFX card mmmmnnnnnn
So don't try and impress me with your superpi speeds :wink:
so telling you i can do a 1MB super pi in 17.685 seconds wont impress you lol :twisted:
Alpinestarhero
23-01-07, 02:57 PM
I wish i could understand what was going on in this thread; it sounds quite fun!
How do you overclock things and all that?
Matt
northwind
23-01-07, 02:58 PM
yup, there just down the road from me, so i got all the bits from there aswell.
I should ask on there then if I were you :)
Marshall
23-01-07, 03:07 PM
I should ask on there then if I were you :)
i have done, BUT there forum isnt as friendly as this one, so i asked on both hoping i might get a decent reply on one of the threads
northwind
23-01-07, 03:24 PM
Ah, and all you got was me being awkward :) If ti was me, i'd knock a hundred off the speed and if it works then I'd forget about it, but then I'm not exactly a power overclocker...
Marshall
23-01-07, 07:04 PM
well at a strugle, ive managed to get it to run at 3GHz with the ram at 5-5-5-15. im running orthos now, its been stable for an hour i want to see 8 hours, then ill be happy. Ive also re seated the cpu and cpu cooler, as a few people have been having problems with there cooler being put on too tight (and mine was cranked down as tight as it would go)
7 hours to go and counting
ianofbhills
23-01-07, 08:42 PM
ermmm yer. dwibble :?: :?:
not a sausage to me any of that.
the_runt69
23-01-07, 10:29 PM
Gave up overclocking when I ran my 800 duron at 2 gig went well for a couple of hours then started smoking.
H
Marshall
24-01-07, 10:46 AM
well it got even stranger now, it ran stable at 3GHz last night for 6 hours, turned it off for the night, booted up this morning and it failed the stability test within 3 seconds, i left it for 15 mins over breakfast and then it started to run it properly. So it seems if i let it warm up its more stable??
god knows
northwind
24-01-07, 11:36 AM
Weird stuff... I have no idea what'd cause that. Have you tried it at totally stock speeds, see if you can replicate it under those circumstances?
Marshall
24-01-07, 08:16 PM
looks like the RAM is screwed, im RMAing it tomorrow, tbh im not surprised, ive had a few days worth of bad luck
northwind
24-01-07, 08:20 PM
While you're at it, you could ask how they're getting on with my motherboard :roll:
Marshall
25-01-07, 09:44 AM
funny you mention that, but ill be taking my motherboard back as well
doesn't happen to be a gigabyte DS4 does it?
northwind
25-01-07, 07:36 PM
DS3... Ran for 4 months then stopped posting. Though it was very good till then, at least...
Marshall
26-01-07, 11:07 AM
well they tested and found my mobo faulty (i made sure of that) but they said my ram was fine, but ive got it home and tested it again, and its still bringing up 100s of errors in mem test, so it looks like ill be RMAing my ram AGAIN!!!
northwind
26-01-07, 07:44 PM
That was quick, mine's still awaiting test and they've had it a fortnight :roll:
Marshall
27-01-07, 06:18 PM
That was quick, mine's still awaiting test and they've had it a fortnight :roll:
FFS!!! a fortnight, they promised me a 3-4 day turn around.
well i tried my mates ram in my pc today and it runs perfect, at normal speed, or over clocked.
mine wouldn't even pass memtest at standard setting (or even on auto) got loads of pics of bios setting and memtest failures as well, going to be sending them in with the ram. Its totally shot. so im back on my backup laptop at the mo 120MB of ram, celron 900. my god its slow.
but im going to get a refund and get some different stuff, either the Team Extreem stuff, or the Geil stuff my mate has got.
id give them a ring about your mobo, see wtf they are doing with it
northwind
27-01-07, 06:32 PM
They gave me a maximum 28 day turnaround when I sent it in :evil: Said that some faults they can diagnose themselves, others go back to the manufacturer. Not that big a deal, since I've got the corpse of a PC I can resurrect easily, though.
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