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Should be a good tournament this year as a major build up for the cup later. My calls of the final placings:
Wales
Ireland
France
England
Scotland
Italy
Wales v Ireland should be the match to watch on Sunday. Ireland have been playing superb but this I hope will be the only big upset. England will place middle of the table and will get slated by the British media (once again) to make them try harder in the cup.
furrybean
02-02-07, 09:17 AM
Obviously I'd love England to win it but the Welsh are a strong side!!!!
furrybean
02-02-07, 09:21 AM
5/1 at William Hill for Wales to win. Ireland are the 13/8 favorites
dont know much about rugby union BUT one of wale top players has been banned for the first 3 games
not sure on the fixtures, where are ireland playing france? where are wales playing england?
i'd plump for dem dere irish ...
Luckypants
02-02-07, 10:01 AM
I think Sunday's game between Wales and Ireland will set the tone. Whoever wins is likely to be favourites for the title. Of course it will be Wales........ 8)
Scotland
Ireland
Wales
France
England
Italy
Although it'd be good if Italy good climb the table a wee bit. :P :lol:
:lol: Scotland at the top, i love the optimism at least... :lol:
I'll reserve my opinion till after the weekend.
England have a new structure.
France have a new young team, french club teams have been awesom. They can be the best in the world, or awful.
Scotland, getting better, but just never seem to be quite there, big hearts get them through.
Italy, 7 years and still got a way to come, they get better every year, but no expectations.
Wales, again, had superb spots, and awful spots. BIG loss loosing Jones as he's a big part of the team.
Ireland, everyone favourite. A team thats played together time and time again, know each other, the most close knitted put together team at the moment. Its why they are favourites.
I have high expectations of England on saturday. The squad list (esp the backs) is very good, but its all whether the team gel together.
Im not looking for only the win, but the way the team plays together is vital. IMO, sod the 6 nations, work on the team for the World Cup so we don't go from Champions to embarrasing ourselves.
It looks like it could be one of the most nail-biting tournaments. For purely nationalistic reasons I vote Wales. With the exception of the Italians, any of the 5 could steal it. I don't expect there to be a grand slam or a triple crown. I want the Italians to do really well this year, just not against us.
My namesake will do well I'm sure. My kids love it, and shout out "Dads scored again"
not sure on the fixtures, where are ireland playing france? where are wales playing england?
i'd plump for dem dere irish ...
Fixture list (http://www.rbs6nations.com/fixtures2007.htm?CMP=KNC-sixnations&HBX_PK=six+nations+fixtures&HBX_OU=50)
VERDICT: IRELAND TO WIN GRAND SLAM
P W D L Pts
Ireland 5 5 0 0 10
France 5 3 0 2 6
Wales 5 3 0 2 6
England 5 2 0 3 4
Scotland 5 1 0 4 2
Italy 5 1 0 4 2
Might even take a trip to the bookies and put this on as a forecast :wink:
Mixed loyalties from me (after the ABs of course :oops: ) - Though my Dad (the Englishman living in North Wales) has escaped his customary 'hiding in his study' by taking my (Welsh) Mum on holiday to South Africa.
A trip from which they'll be bringing me another rugby shirt for my collection or they'll not be returning. :twisted:
The England side had improved, but not by enough I don't think, Ireland certainly have it on team playing, but well - the Welsh are just to goddamn stubborn to admit the Irish are stonger on paper and so may just end up stronger on the grass. :?
Wales all the way!!! :D
And so ends my Rugby knowledge :lol:
Luckypants
02-02-07, 11:12 AM
Wales all the way!!! :D
And so ends my Rugby knowledge :lol:
It's all you need to know really 8)
Aah nuts voted for the Frogs by mistake.
Anyway, In reverse order
Italy last
er.....
Scotland
Wales (only because they have several key players injured or banned)
England
France
Ireland to win
Supervox
02-02-07, 12:46 PM
Ireland are obviously the team to beat - probably the 2nd best team in the world at the moment.
So, I'll have to go for an Ireland win.
However, I don't think they'll take a Grand Slam - 1 mediocre game will spoil it for them - hopefully against England !!
Just taken a look at the Paddy Power betting odds - tempted to have a little flutter on Sébastien Chabal as Man of the Match (Italy v France) at 12-1 - the way he's been playing recently is just awesome !!
Can't believe they've got Johnny Wilkinson at 3-1 (England v Scotland) - far more likely to be one of the forwards I'd have thought.
Can't believe they've got Johnny Wilkinson at 3-1 (England v Scotland) - far more likely to be one of the forwards I'd have thought.
And knowing the Scotts if they dont win at the very least they will be gunning to make an example of Johnny - no doubt he will be expecting some big hits.
My namesake will do well I'm sure. My kids love it, and shout out "Dads scored again"
Always know that you were Capt James Hook in disguise :lol:
I have a feeling that winners on Sunday will win the whole thing..........
I also think that Italy might beat both England and Scotland, meaning the Calcutta Cup could be made of wood this year.
Luckypants
02-02-07, 01:15 PM
Why do England keep persevering with Jonny Wilkinson? Another in a long line of boring kicking fly halves. England have some great backs, but hardly ever use them.
Why do England keep persevering with Jonny Wilkinson? Another in a long line of boring kicking fly halves. England have some great backs, but hardly ever use them.
=D>
Well said.
Thats all he has in his locker..a kicking game...how many times does he sell outrageous dummies fooling the opposition or side step his way through a defence to break the gain line?
He'll probably pull a hamstring pulling his socks up :roll:
I hope Gavin Henson plays for Wales at some point...wanna see him get dumped on his **** and smashed big time...pompous smug **** :toss:
Rant over...carry on you very very nice people :D
Why do England keep persevering with Jonny Wilkinson? Another in a long line of boring kicking fly halves. England have some great backs, but hardly ever use them.
Dude, you for real???
IMO, he's one of the best fly halfs we've had for a long time. Better than Rob Andrews was.
His all roudn game is superb. He's an extremly hard tackler (esp for his size), his positioning is very good, he can pass the ball perfectly, has a brilliant "game" mind, and he can kick as well.
Excluding his kicking, he'd still make an excellent player. England frequently use there backs when he's playing, its the other fly halfs we've had recently that don't seem to like passing the ball.
He takes the points when they are needed as well. IMO, (even before the WC in 03) I considered him to be one of the best players in the northen hemisphere total!!
Luckypants
02-02-07, 01:44 PM
Why do England keep persevering with Jonny Wilkinson? Another in a long line of boring kicking fly halves. England have some great backs, but hardly ever use them.
Dude, you for real???
IMO, he's one of the best fly halfs we've had for a long time. Better than Rob Andrews was.
His all roudn game is superb. He's an extremly hard tackler (esp for his size), his positioning is very good, he can pass the ball perfectly, has a brilliant "game" mind, and he can kick as well.
Excluding his kicking, he'd still make an excellent player. England frequently use there backs when he's playing, its the other fly halfs we've had recently that don't seem to like passing the ball.
He takes the points when they are needed as well. IMO, (even before the WC in 03) I considered him to be one of the best players in the northen hemisphere total!!
We'll see... :wink:
I hope Gavin Henson plays for Wales at some point...wanna see him get dumped on his @rse and smashed big time...pompous smug **** :toss:
I've heard him speak highly of you, too :lol:
I wouldn't mind him playing at all - he's in great form - but he's going to find it tough to get picked ahead of James Hook, who will be the star of this year's competition. A genuine talent - the best since Jonathan Davies IMHO.
Remember where you read it first :wink:
Luckypants
02-02-07, 01:54 PM
Why do England keep persevering with Jonny Wilkinson? Another in a long line of boring kicking fly halves. England have some great backs, but hardly ever use them.
I hope Gavin Henson plays for Wales at some point...wanna see him get dumped on his @rse and smashed big time...pompous smug **** :toss:
Rant over...carry on you very very nice people :D
I think the reason he is not playing is he spends to much time on his off field activities and not enough on the field. He has a high opinion of himself, granted, but has talent nontheless. He needs to concentrate on his game and we might all like him a bit more, as well as admire his talent.
As a Welshman, I find him incredibly frustrating.
James Hook, who will be the star of this year's competition. A genuine talent - the best since Jonathan Davies IMHO.
Remember where you read it first :wink:
you said CARDIFF CITY would fade away after xmas aswell
are you mystic meg?
Peter Henry
02-02-07, 02:21 PM
"Oh Danny Boy the pipes,the pipes are calling"
The lads from the land of the shamrock all the way! :wink:
Why do England keep persevering with Jonny Wilkinson? Another in a long line of boring kicking fly halves. England have some great backs, but hardly ever use them.
Dude, you for real???
IMO, he's one of the best fly halfs we've had for a long time. Better than Rob Andrews was.
His all roudn game is superb. He's an extremly hard tackler (esp for his size), his positioning is very good, he can pass the ball perfectly, has a brilliant "game" mind, and he can kick as well.
Excluding his kicking, he'd still make an excellent player. England frequently use there backs when he's playing, its the other fly halfs we've had recently that don't seem to like passing the ball.
He takes the points when they are needed as well. IMO, (even before the WC in 03) I considered him to be one of the best players in the northen hemisphere total!!
We'll see... :wink:
How many caps has he won since the World Cup ? bugger is always injured.
Far superior fly half to Charlie Hodgson IMO
Thats my only concerns about JW, his lack of matches since all his injuries.
But looking at him, he's kept on top of things, he's stronger, a little older, a little wiser.
The only thing i've actually see him do wrong is try to do toooo much, tackle absolutly everyone. If some teams spot this and he's caught by a dummy (i.e blindside dummy run) then he drops slightly out of position, puts him behined 2-3 meters, and in international level, that can be a try allowing gap.
CH was awful, Andy Goode played better, but he is like a light switch. Either switched right on, or right off. JW is consistantly good.
Supervox
02-02-07, 02:59 PM
I have to say that I'm glad JW is in the team - my original point was that I can't believe that the bookies have made him favourite to be MotM against the Jocks.
As for his abilities, well I'd put him up against any fly-half in the world (fitness permitting of course).
Because his kicking is just so awesome - & that's something that he works tirelessly to achieve don't forget - it blinds people to the other aspects of his game.
Bottom line, having a JW in your side might not make for 'pretty' rugby - but if you need a kicker in the dying minutes be it a penalty, conversion or drop-goal for a tie or a win - name me someone better !! 8)
As for his abilities, well I'd put him up against any fly-half in the world (fitness permitting of course).
Even Dan Carter??
Luckypants
02-02-07, 03:13 PM
As for his abilities, well I'd put him up against any fly-half in the world (fitness permitting of course).
Even Dan Carter??
Awesome. Was at the Wales match when ABs gave us a lesson in rugby last Autumn - he was truly amazing. Made all the Welsh backs look like schoolboys.
Filipe M.
02-02-07, 03:30 PM
The Hoff will win!
Only if Chuck Norris doesn't play.
philipMac
02-02-07, 05:20 PM
Emm.
I am not sure what people are smoking here. Wales to upset Ireland??? I don't think so. I really dont.
Have you seen the way we are playing lately? Australia were comprehensively beaten. South Africa too.
No. I am worried about playing the Blacks. And Maybe France, because you never know with those guys. But, not Wales.
No. I am worried about playing the Blacks. And Maybe France, because you never know with those guys. But, not Wales.
Time will tell - you could be crying into your Guiness come Sunday evening :wink:
Based on the autumn internationals, I rate the Irish to take the six nations...BUT France are certainly a dark horse to be aware of. They've not played too many games recently but the team is young and the french clubs have been putting in good performances recently.
As far as Johnny W is concerned, he is going to be very very very well marked by the Scottish this saturday.
I dont think the Welsh have a chance against the Irish based on there recent performances.
Just my 2p worth :wink:
I dont think the Welsh have a chance against the Irish based on there recent performances
Wales have picked a strong pack/front row as the Irish are a bit weak in that dept.
IMHO, the game will be won/lost in the lineout.
I dont think the Welsh have a chance against the Irish based on there recent performances
Wales have picked a strong pack/front row as the Irish are a bit weak in that dept.
IMHO, the game will be won/lost in the lineout.
Even so...the irish have been quicker from the back and the welsh defence has been diabolical to say the least.
(Dont get me wrong...I have welsh blood running through these veins but we have to be honest with ourselves) :oops:
I'll have to go for England. They'll come good.
World cup in the summer isn't it.
philipMac
02-02-07, 06:40 PM
I dont think the Welsh have a chance against the Irish based on there recent performances
Wales have picked a strong pack/front row as the Irish are a bit weak in that dept.
IMHO, the game will be won/lost in the lineout.
Traditionally I would agree with you. Lineouts are completely central.
The thing about this Irish team... they are like the old Aussie teams... they are very very fit, relentless, and they are unbelievably calm. They will play solid organized rugby to a plan, and not panic, or deviate away from that plan. They just have tons of experience.
I feel the All Backs (and the French, and even Wales sometimes) are very dangerous to play, because on the day they can pull off ridiculously cool stuff. They are brilliant, but emotional.
But this Ireland, (and the last England team, and the older Aussies teams Campo et al) just play relentlessly controlling dominating rugby. Terminator style stuff. They have enough flair to back it up, but mainly, its about control.
We will see.
Luckypants
02-02-07, 07:13 PM
I feel the All Backs (and the French, and even Wales sometimes) are very dangerous to play, because on the day they can pull off ridiculously cool stuff. They are brilliant, but emotional.
Riiiight...... The ABs are emotional? Come on, they are the total professionals at the moment. They have flair, pace, strength and control. They can pull off rediculous stuff because they are brilliant, but also detached enough to win the ball cleanly.
Any way they are not in the RBS (thank god!).
philipMac
02-02-07, 08:16 PM
I feel the All Backs (and the French, and even Wales sometimes) are very dangerous to play, because on the day they can pull off ridiculously cool stuff. They are brilliant, but emotional.
Riiiight...... The ABs are emotional? Come on, they are the total professionals at the moment. They have flair, pace, strength and control. They can pull off rediculous stuff because they are brilliant, but also detached enough to win the ball cleanly.
Any way they are not in the RBS (thank god!).
Yeah they are emotional. Look at their record in the World Cups. There have been quite a few World Cups, ie the last one, where they were not only the best team, but probably the second best, they choked.
The Blacks are emotional when it comes down to it, but normally they are so good that they simply overwhelm the opposition, and settle down into a nice winning game very quickly. If things start to get scary out there, they have in the past panicked a little bit. The Aussies are ice cold on the other hand. They just play rugby.
The blacks play for all of New Zealand.
Edit : I am not saying they aren't the best. They are the best, and probably the second and third best at the moment. I am just saying that playing rugby is so important for New Zealand, it can be like football for Brazil. Them winning is expected. Anything else is an upset.
Yeah they are emotional. Look at their record in the World Cups. There have been quite a few World Cups, ie the last one, where they were not only the best team, but probably the second best, they choked.
The Blacks are emotional when it comes down to it, but normally they are so good that they simply overwhelm the opposition, and settle down into a nice winning game very quickly. If things start to get scary out there, they have in the past panicked a little bit. The Aussies are ice cold on the other hand. They just play rugby.
The blacks play for all of New Zealand.
Edit : I am not saying they aren't the best. They are the best, and probably the second and third best at the moment. I am just saying that playing rugby is so important for New Zealand, it can be like football for Brazil. Them winning is expected. Anything else is an upset.
=D>
Ahhh, my boys. There's a hell of a lot of pressure on them each time they play. Whilst the NZ press isn't as scathing as ours can be it's more a case of that quiet dissapointment a parent or teacher can give your that really hurts... only from an entire country. :shock:
(Though they didn't choke against SA that one time - it was food poisoning. That's the excuse and I'm sticking with it. :wink: )
As Brian Ashton is a friend and I used to have a drink quite often with him at our local pub, I have to vote for England. If he gets to do what he wants to do then England will win it.
As Brian Ashton is a friend and I used to have a drink quite often with him at our local pub, I have to vote for England. If he gets to do what he wants to do then England will win it.
if you dont change your mind to WALES i will tell evrybody what you bought the other night at the services :oops: :lol:
As Brian Ashton is a friend and I used to have a drink quite often with him at our local pub, I have to vote for England. If he gets to do what he wants to do then England will win it.
if you dont change your mind to WALES i will tell evrybody what you bought the other night at the services :oops: :lol:
Ummmmm...
You wouldn't dare.......would you :?:
You wouldn't want to meet Sebastion Chabal down a dark alley would you ?
Why do England keep persevering with Jonny Wilkinson? Another in a long line of boring kicking fly halves. England have some great backs, but hardly ever use them.
Dude, you for real???
IMO, he's one of the best fly halfs we've had for a long time. Better than Rob Andrews was.
His all roudn game is superb. He's an extremly hard tackler (esp for his size), his positioning is very good, he can pass the ball perfectly, has a brilliant "game" mind, and he can kick as well.
Excluding his kicking, he'd still make an excellent player. England frequently use there backs when he's playing, its the other fly halfs we've had recently that don't seem to like passing the ball.
He takes the points when they are needed as well. IMO, (even before the WC in 03) I considered him to be one of the best players in the northen hemisphere total!!
We'll see... :wink:
Cough Cough............ :D
He didn't score that try, he was in touch IMO. Only just, but it was in touch.
Exclude his kicking, please now tell me he isn't a great player, all those hard tackles, his positioning, in fact, just re0read my above comments.... 8) :D
Ellis = AWESOME!!!! Some great breaks, perfect passing.
Even the forwards started to get it together.
Was not impressed by Robinson or Farrell. Hope they've got mroe to offer. (Robinson should have score teh first anyway, and the 2nd was pure luck).
I think England need to improve a lot more if they want to challange for the 6 nations though. A lot of mistakes, but a good start for a new team. Good foundation to build on.
El Saxo
03-02-07, 06:08 PM
Exclude his kicking, please now tell me he isn't a great player, all those hard tackles, his positioning, in fact, just re0read my above comments.... 8) :D
Ellis = AWESOME!!!! Some great breaks, perfect passing.
Even the forwards started to get it together.
Seconded, very impressed with England today. :D
(And yes, it was in touch :oops: )
Did you hear Eddie Butler & Brian wotsisface laying into each other over the penalty against Scotland in the first half too? :lol:
Supervox
03-02-07, 06:12 PM
Although he had an excellent game I really can't believe that Johnny's try was given by the video ref :shock: Everybody in the pub where I was watching, bothScottish & English supporters were all agreed that after looking at the video his right foot was clearly in touch - but hey ho - that's the way it goes.
I also have to say that I believe Harry Ellis should have been Man of the Match - he played a blinder :D
As for Farrell I think he had a solid game - nothing outstandingly brilliant - but equally no serious errors. 8)
Robinson - well, I've always been in 2 minds about him I don't think he's ever fulfilled his potential for England the way he does at club level. :|
All in all a good solid start, but as Daimo said improvements are still required before the World Cup.
BTW I didn't make it to the bookies to place my bet on Sebas Chabal being MoM :cry:
PS - to balance the JW try - the 1st Scottish try should never have been allowed either - the English jumper clearly had his arm hooked whilst in mid-air, therefore a penalty to England shoul'd have been awarded.
:lol: Funny wasn't it.
Grey point, not sure about that one. The ball bounced out of his way and he changed his direction, and was barged off the ball. If he hadn't of been barged, he'd have got the ball and it would have been a try.
I personnally would have said it wasn't a penalty, but it was a very close call.
El Saxo
03-02-07, 06:18 PM
:lol: Funny wasn't it.
Grey point, not sure about that one. The ball bounced out of his way and he changed his direction, and was barged off the ball. If he hadn't of been barged, he'd have got the ball and it would have been a try.
I personnally would have said it wasn't a penalty, but it was a very close call.
Hmm, I reckon it was a penalty. The replay seemed to show that the Scottish player (Patterson?) was watching Wilkinson and NOT the ball - seems to show 'intent' to me. :smt102
Anyway, it's all academic now... :lol:
Why do England keep persevering with Jonny Wilkinson? Another in a long line of boring kicking fly halves. England have some great backs, but hardly ever use them.
Errr. What was that you said :?: :lol:
Supervox
03-02-07, 06:42 PM
Why do England keep persevering with Jonny Wilkinson? Another in a long line of boring kicking fly halves. England have some great backs, but hardly ever use them.
Errr. What was that you said :?: :lol:
Hee Hee Hee :lol:
Luckypants
03-02-07, 09:03 PM
Why do England keep persevering with Jonny Wilkinson? Another in a long line of boring kicking fly halves. England have some great backs, but hardly ever use them.
Dude, you for real???
IMO, he's one of the best fly halfs we've had for a long time. Better than Rob Andrews was.
His all roudn game is superb. He's an extremly hard tackler (esp for his size), his positioning is very good, he can pass the ball perfectly, has a brilliant "game" mind, and he can kick as well.
Excluding his kicking, he'd still make an excellent player. England frequently use there backs when he's playing, its the other fly halfs we've had recently that don't seem to like passing the ball.
He takes the points when they are needed as well. IMO, (even before the WC in 03) I considered him to be one of the best players in the northen hemisphere total!!
We'll see... :wink:
Cough Cough............ :D
He didn't score that try, he was in touch IMO. Only just, but it was in touch.
Exclude his kicking, please now tell me he isn't a great player, all those hard tackles, his positioning, in fact, just re0read my above comments.... 8) :D
Was coming on to eat my words before someone rammed them down my throat, but you beat me to it! :(
He played extremely well, but I still don't rate him as an exciting player. Effective, yes, absolutely.
And to play so well at that level after so long out and so little match time is amazing, so hats off to him.
What I did not reckon on is the effect he had on the players that surround him. Many of the same players have looked completely out of thier depth on the international stage, but with magic Jonny they were transformed. That, more than anything, is the Wilkenson magic.
I'm sorry to say england just became contenders....
I'm sorry to say england just became contenders....
Now there's wishful thinking... :-dd
Luckypants
03-02-07, 09:12 PM
I'm sorry to say england just became contenders....
Now there's wishful thinking... :-dd
nothing wishful there, just recognising that they looked a much more controlled and commited outfit today. If they hold thier forma dn avoid injuries, they are contenders.
They won't win it mind - we gonna do that! 8)
the_runt69
03-02-07, 10:12 PM
NIce to see the win, but still some work to do, too many penalty's given away in scoring areas, but Johnny was back to his best
H
We'll see about England being contenders when they face tougher tests of Ireland and Wales away from home.
Hopefully Wales can beat Ireland today and that will set them on their way but I'm not too confident.
philipMac
04-02-07, 04:59 PM
Hopefully Wales can beat Ireland today and that will set them on their way but I'm not too confident.
MUUHA HA HA HAHAHAHHHAAHAHAHAHA
Your lack of confidence prooved wise padawan.
Now, bring me other teams so that we may break them.
Hopefully Wales can beat Ireland today and that will set them on their way but I'm not too confident.
MUUHA HA HA HAHAHAHHHAAHAHAHAHA
Your lack of confidence prooved wise padawan.
Now, bring me other teams so that we may break them.
Pfff, all I can say is the ref should have used the sin bin. Bunch of Irish cheats!! :P
Supervox
04-02-07, 06:58 PM
Have to say NOT impressed by the Irish - nowhere near the level that they were playing at last autumn :D
O'Gara missing penalties, Stringer getting harassed in the scrums :shock:
I think this 6 Nations could be lot closer than first thought. :D
Wales were more impressive that I expected.
As it stands any one of 4 teams could potentially win this championship (sorry to all you jocks :( )
I must just add that with the exception of not using the sin-bin the refereeing was excellent. To my way of thinking too many forward passes & crooked put-ins from both scrums & line-outs are being missed / let go these days.
An entertaining match - but not one that I think will by any means frighten the French or English management or players. :D
Peter Henry
04-02-07, 07:13 PM
Super...Come on matey, not pretty and yes some contentious decisions going on. However 3 tries to nil-zilch-zero away from home is not to be sniffed at. The Irish were good value for their win as the Welsh on home soil despite all their possesion and territorial dominance threatened very little.
There will be many a leek chewed in angst and many a sheep ignored by weeping Welshmen tonight" :lol: :lol: :lol:
"if yer oirish, step in to the parlour...." :D :D
Supervox
04-02-07, 08:12 PM
But nowhere near as decisive as I (& others I'm sure) expected given their Autumn performances.
The only players who really lived up to their 'billing' were Gordon D'Arcy (who has been under-rated / overshadowed for so long) & possibly at a stretch Brian O'Driscoll - who from what I read is doubtful for the next match due to the hamstring strain he picked up.
I think the next match against France could well decide the championship winner - but then again Wales could easily bounce back & England could still improve & cause an 'upset' - assuming of course that they don't get carried away with result from yesterday, but I think Brian Ashton's way too savvy to let that happen :D
philipMac
04-02-07, 08:53 PM
Ireland are pros.
They go out, and its another day at the office, and they expect to win at the end of it all. They get the job done, and they leave it at that.
There was no need to utterly kill themselves and destroy Wales (even if they could), and potentially face injury etc. Besides, Wales might very well not be a bad team at all. And they were playing at home.
Did you notice the rapturous overjoyed Irish celebrations at the end? No. Neither did anyone. Its almost like they don't enjoy it. (I am sure they do.) It's just they are very cold talented organized professionals at this point.
Shrug. Scary enough team to play against.
England might have been flattered against Scotland. Maybe. And they might be getting a little too delighted with themselves over Wilkinson. He is one guy. He is injury prone, and just back to fitness. And, hanging your entire hopes on him to play well and win the match is a risky enough tactic. One altercation with the rough end of someone like Chabal could stop England in their tracks.
Just sayin.
Jester666
04-02-07, 11:01 PM
England
Ireland
Wales
France
Scotland
Italy
That's what I want to see. However the Irish are the team to beat.
Okay I've tried to stop myself from running my mouth of, but I can't help it....... :twisted:
First thing... Ireland will win the triple crown and the 6 nations, end of. (we've been waiting since 1948 for the nations for goodness sake, it's long overdue).
The match with Wales was entertaining. The difference was that Wales played close to their best, Ireland didn't and Wales still lost. Ireland may not flatter but the simple fact is that they will get the job done, make a mistake or give them an opportunity and they will punish the opposition. 3 trys V's 3 penalties says it all really.
Bring on the French at Croke Park....now that should be a reasonable challenge at least! Plus I'm being realistic I don't expect Ireland to waltz through undefeated.
Italy.....they're just whipping boys!
Scotland.......well at least they'll beat Italy :oops:
As for England.....be serious!
They get 1 victory (against Scotland, who they should have beaten anyway) and all of a sudden the fans and media become convinced they'll win the next world cup.........AS IF!!!!!!!!
There we go, I'm finished, my rant is over and even if I'm found to be talking completely outta my a** at least I feel better for it!!!!!!!!! 8)
Well thats my table is out the door! A good show from Scotland! Nice running from the backs and some solid set play. Patterson did well. Italy also played better than expected - nothing to loose but a great backline defense to keep England out. They can do with some more size up front.
the_runt69
10-02-07, 05:55 PM
England played poorly any team with a decent running game will take them apart. The Welsh went missing today, sorry but after the display against Ireland last week they should have run the Scots into he ground, But fair play to the Jocks they stifled the Welsh attack and should have scored a couple of tries. Still think the Irish will win it certainly the triple crown depending on their game against the frogs tomorrow.
Maybe England will come good I can but hope but not holding my breath.
philipMac
10-02-07, 07:10 PM
Still think the Irish will win it certainly the triple crown depending on their game against the frogs tomorrow.
Maybe England will come good I can but hope but not holding my breath.
Yeah. I think everything depends on the France match tomorrow. We have a habit of losing to that bloody team for some reason. They always make me nervous. That Chabal lad for a start. :shock:
And we are missing O'Driscoll AND Stringer. O'Driscoll not being there is really going to hurt.
I am a bit worried about the match now...
philipMac
11-02-07, 04:52 PM
bugger.
El Saxo
11-02-07, 04:57 PM
Sheesh! How close was that?
Felt quite sorry for Ireland to lose after they played most of the best rugby in the second half.
The French were great though, all credit to them.
I hate to say it but, *gulp*, France to retain the title? :shock:
Oh sh*t!!!! :(
Where was the bloody Irish Luck this afternoon :?:
Ah well we'll just have to take our frustrations out on the English :smt064
I'm saying 37-22 to Ireland......any takers :?:
philipMac
11-02-07, 06:04 PM
I want Ireland to inflict some heavy pain and suffering on someone. ASAP. Not at all a happy camper at the moment.
Engaaahland are as good a candidate as any.
We need Stringer and O'Driscoll back. Stat.
Bloody French.
Croker looked savage though. Proper stadium, proper crowd. How is the new Lansdowne Road going to fit all these people?
Supervox
12-02-07, 06:19 PM
Oh sh*t!!!! :(
Where was the bloody Irish Luck this afternoon :?:
Ah well we'll just have to take our frustrations out on the English :smt064
I'm saying 37-22 to Ireland......any takers :?:
Bring it on !! 8)
I don't agree with those pundits who said that Ireland were unlucky - the French played the game for 80 minutes - the Irish for 78 !!
Sorry, but that's the way it is.
Once O'Gara had kicked that penalty you could see that the Irish thought it was in the bag - they didn't even attempt to contest the re-start- they were playing containment rugby & they paid the price !!
Oh sh*t!!!! :(
Where was the bloody Irish Luck this afternoon :?:
Ah well we'll just have to take our frustrations out on the English :smt064
I'm saying 37-22 to Ireland......any takers :?:
Bring it on !! 8)
I don't agree with those pundits who said that Ireland were unlucky - the French played the game for 80 minutes - the Irish for 78 !!
Sorry, but that's the way it is.
Once O'Gara had kicked that penalty you could see that the Irish thought it was in the bag - they didn't even attempt to contest the re-start- they were playing containment rugby & they paid the price
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I couldn't agree more....the difference again England though will be that they won't make the same mistake twice and considering the political history of the venue and the emotionally charged atmosphere I think Ireland will make them their bitches :lol: 8) :smt021 :notworthy: :drink:
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I couldn't agree more....the difference again England though will be that they won't make the same mistake twice and considering the political history of the venue and the emotionally charged atmosphere I think Ireland will make them their bitches :lol: 8) :smt021 :notworthy: :drink:
I dunno - they were pretty cocky with the French and let things slip - all beit with help from a dodgy kiwi Ref :roll: :wink:
How cocky will they be when England visit though. They have points to prove and payback pressure at that stadium to hand out. I think this will be Englands opportunity to shine now. The England game was lacking any inspiration last Saturday - but it was fairly clinical none the less and they punished the Italians every penalty. The Irish play a very open and fast game which will be entirely different. I back England as the underdogs for this one... only as I think its time their back line step up and meet the challenge. Hope its as fast as Sundays!
Steve H
13-02-07, 09:42 AM
Where is the 'I don't give a stuff option'?
My prediction is that I will not be watching any of this 'EGG CHASING' :roll:
Supervox
13-02-07, 12:53 PM
I dunno - they were pretty cocky with the French and let things slip - all be it with help from a dodgy kiwi Ref :roll: :wink:
In what way did Steve Walsh influence the final try ?
if you're talking about the game in general then I'd agree - but all in all I think he balanced his dodgy decisions evenly !!
I think Ireland will make them their bitches
Keep taking the medication my friend !! :P
wales to win
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I dunno - they were pretty cocky with the French and let things slip - all be it with help from a dodgy kiwi Ref :roll: :wink:
In what way did Steve Walsh influence the final try ?
if you're talking about the game in general then I'd agree - but all in all I think he balanced his dodgy decisions evenly !! :lol: - was referring mainly to the advantage he should have played but didnt. Its interesting now with the microphones on the refs. You could hear him huffing away a few times with disappointment - he knew he stuffed that up big time. Not taking anything away from the French though and it was still the best game of the tournament by far.
I dunno - they were pretty cocky with the French and let things slip - all be it with help from a dodgy kiwi Ref :roll: :wink:
In what way did Steve Walsh influence the final try ?
if you're talking about the game in general then I'd agree - but all in all I think he balanced his dodgy decisions evenly !!
I think Ireland will make them their bitches
Keep taking the medication my friend !! :P
I will do Supervox, I've got a repeat prescription!!!!!!!!
If only it would stop the voices............... :twisted:
Supervox
13-02-07, 05:57 PM
I dunno - they were pretty cocky with the French and let things slip - all be it with help from a dodgy kiwi Ref :roll: :wink:
In what way did Steve Walsh influence the final try ?
if you're talking about the game in general then I'd agree - but all in all I think he balanced his dodgy decisions evenly !!
I think Ireland will make them their bitches
Keep taking the medication my friend !! :P
I will do Supervox, I've got a repeat prescription!!!!!!!!
If only it would stop the voices............... :twisted:
:lol:
the_runt69
24-02-07, 06:08 PM
England indisipline letting us down again. The Ref even likes the English unusual for a frenchman
Tiger 55
24-02-07, 07:33 PM
Well I didn't see anything today that gives me any concern for the Scotland-Ireland game.
No, everything will be fine. Gulp.
philipMac
24-02-07, 11:44 PM
To be fair... the only team in the Northern hemisphere that is any where near Ireland is France. And we will beat France in the next encounter.
That was an absolute demolition job. Complete annihilation of that English side. It wasn't even a contest. Scotland presumably will be steamrollered, and then we will see how the world cup shapes up.
Imagine a Blacks/Ireland final. Jaysus. :batman:
the_runt69
24-02-07, 11:48 PM
Yes the Irish deserved to wina game which yet again England lost to giving too many penalties in their own half of the field. Ireland gave away pentalties but they were in the England 22. Indisipline again cost england dear and made the win for Ireland better than it should have been.
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Luckypants
24-02-07, 11:48 PM
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Fizzy Fish
25-02-07, 08:31 AM
:smt012 :smt089
my sentiments exactly!
was watching the England-Ireland game with 2 south africans, one (my other 1/2) has adopted England as his 2nd team after the Springboks, the other made the mistake of cheering loudly for Ireland after theiy scored their first points. :smt071
Funny, he didn't make that mistake again... :)
Dicky Ticker
25-02-07, 09:11 AM
When you consider the head of population per country it is amazing that the smaller countries can field the teams that they do. In comparison France and Italy are blinking big countries compared to Ireland,Wales and Scotland,ok,England may not be quite as big but still have a large pool to make their selection from and perhaps should have a more even chance
Just love it when under dogs win,but not surprised when they lose
Nutkins
26-02-07, 09:34 AM
Anyone but France .... please.
Luckypants
26-02-07, 11:36 AM
my sentiments exactly!
was watching the England-Ireland game with 2 south africans, one (my other 1/2) has adopted England as his 2nd team after the Springboks, the other made the mistake of cheering loudly for Ireland after theiy scored their first points. :smt071
Funny, he didn't make that mistake again... :)
Why do the English always think they are the center of the universe? :rolleyes:
Crying in my beer watching another Wales loss. Check my location fella! :p (and my wildly optimistic predictions at the start of the thread! :shaking: ) If we'd kicked all our points, we would have been within 3 points of France - so not a bad display. Just 3 losses on the bounce :smt013
Why do the English always think they are the center of the universe? :rolleyes:
Crying in my beer watching another Wales loss. Check my location fella! :p (and my wildly optimistic predictions at the start of the thread! :shaking: ) If we'd kicked all our points, we would have been within 3 points of France - so not a bad display. Just 3 losses on the bounce :smt013
I'm now scared Wales will get the wooden spoon this year, not going to happen of course, Wales will win their final 2 games against Italy and England ;)
And I guess my accidental voting for France was a gut instinct which proves right.
Nutkins
27-02-07, 11:18 AM
I think Ireland have been in the six nations long enough.
Can they please be replaced by those rugby goliaths, Canada.
philipMac
27-02-07, 03:20 PM
I think Ireland have been in the six nations long enough.
Can they please be replaced by those rugby goliaths, Canada.
Uruguay are looking threatening these days too.
Uruguay are looking threatening these days too.
Not as great as the Pumas.
philipMac
28-02-07, 04:06 AM
Not as great as the Pumas.
In fairness those boys aren't that bad. Seriously. Obviously Ireland would hockey them, but, you know, a team like, say... England would have their work cut out.
I met an ex Puma. On the side of a mountain in the Argentine Andes. Cacho something or other. Big lad and all.
In fairness those boys aren't that bad. Seriously. Obviously Ireland would hockey them, but, you know, a team like, say... England would have their work cut out.
I met an ex Puma. On the side of a mountain in the Argentine Andes. Cacho something or other. Big lad and all.
Oh right, the previous posts were sarcasm!
I remember the last time Argentina played England. :lol: And when they played Wales last year as well :(
In fairness those boys aren't that bad. Seriously. Obviously Ireland would hockey them, but, you know, a team like, say... England would have their work cut out.
I met an ex Puma. On the side of a mountain in the Argentine Andes. Cacho something or other. Big lad and all.
Yeah - they are great to watch too - remind me of Italy but with a decent forward pack.
We had a national team come to a world 1st fiteen comp back at school (in NZ). I only mention it because you mentioned hockey - they brought their national hockey team with them - the girl version - and by crikey were they drooled over.
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