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And here's me thinking that council tax was to pay for local government services. How very naive of me.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1399569.ece
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gettin2dizzy
20-02-07, 09:19 PM
bonkers. As the houses with the biggest bills cost the least to run.
almost as mad as this
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/newspapers/sunday_times/britain/article1289640.ece
Don't understand your comment. It only seems a reasonable method of valuing a house to me, which is what they have to do for a council tax. :confused:
tigersaw
20-02-07, 10:10 PM
And here's me thinking that council tax was to pay for local government services. How very naive of me.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1399569.ece
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I had a council inspector come round on a Sunday afternoon a few months ago, wanting to 'evaluate my house for the councils` housing stock records', referring me to the letter I had received some time earlier.
I politely asked him to return accompanied by a search warrent and a sworn police officer. Thats the last I heard.
so once again those that invest in their homes, are threatened with more tax. This is rapidly becoming the country of choice for Unemployed Pikies. Live in squaller and get handouts and low taxes, do up your house, with your wages, and you'll get taxed more for making your house look nice and confortable. Not forgetting the Inheritance tax when you pop your clogs!
Don't understand your comment. It only seems a reasonable method of valuing a house to me, which is what they have to do for a council tax. :confused:
Well firstly, how does the value of my house affect my consumption of local government services anyway ? Size of house or number of occupants maybe but value, no.
Does my new bathroom suite make my bin heavier ?, do I require extra policing so people won't steal my high quality double glazing ?
No, its just silly.
Well firstly, how does the value of my house affect my consumption of local government services anyway ? Size of house or number of occupants maybe but value, no.
Does my new bathroom suite make my bin heavier ?, do I require extra policing so people won't steal my high quality double glazing ?
No, its just silly.
OK I understand you now. You're arguing against council tax as a means of local taxation.
NOT how they are enforcing it.
I would agree with you. The only sense it does make is it's trying to follow ability to pay.
Flamin_Squirrel
20-02-07, 11:02 PM
OK I understand you now. You're arguing against council tax as a means of local taxation.
NOT how they are enforcing it.
I would agree with you. The only sense it does make is it's trying to follow ability to pay.
We have this already, it's called income tax.
And how does increasing tax for energy saving features like double glazing square with our greedy, sorry, green labour government?!
This kind of thing goes beyond wealth re-distribution, it's a blatant attempt by the government to further extend its aims of bleeding anyone who's not a labour voter dry.
We're in serious trouble if this continues - the shrinking number of people who work in roles that actually generate wealth can only prop up the remaining scroungers for so long.
For many years we had no kiddies, and now we have just the one and there won't be any more either. So I think that I deserve a tax break because I'm not imposing an intolerable strain on limited resources.
Flamin_Squirrel
20-02-07, 11:12 PM
For many years we had no kiddies, and now we have just the one and there won't be any more either. So I think that I deserve a tax break because I'm not imposing an intolerable strain on limited resources.
Being a productive member of society, you're one of the last people who'll get a tax break. If you and I don't fill ole Gordies social security black hole who will?!
I wouldn't be surprised if private firms soon have to display a mandatory motivational posters....
http://www.stickergiant.com/Merchant2/imgs/zbs385.gif
tigersaw
20-02-07, 11:14 PM
Work sets you free.
OK I understand you now. You're arguing against council tax as a means of local taxation.
NOT how they are enforcing it.
I think the way it is assessed (value rather than size and number of occupants as I said earlier) is flawed to start with , but then (if the article is to be belived) they are taking it to a ridiculous level.
"peace and quiet, shops providing nearby basic groceries, pleasant views"
What is the EU standard unit of pleasantness anyway ?
Its just a another way of screwing more money out of us.
I'm just waiting for them to add "air polution level" to the list, as it is ineveitable that we'll be taxed on fresh air before too long.
****wits and crooks the lot of 'em !
This Council Tax malarky was introduced here in Wales in 2005 to test the reaction before intrucing it in the more populus (and voter-volatile) England.
My house went up two bands in that year and there was 10% CT increase to the bandings on top of that. I went from paying £150pm to £185pm overnight.
I still haven't got the wheelie bins we were promised on 9th Feb.
B@stids.
The Mass
21-02-07, 09:04 AM
so once again those that invest in their homes, are threatened with more tax. This is rapidly becoming the country of choice for Unemployed Pikies. Live in squaller and get handouts and low taxes, do up your house, with your wages, and you'll get taxed more for making your house look nice and confortable. Not forgetting the Inheritance tax when you pop your clogs!
AlanSV, you're also forgetting that other "Beauty" STAMP DUTY!!
So make your house nice, you pay tax for making it nice, you try and sell, you get STUNG by feckin Stamp Duty.
My centiments exactly fella, live in squaler, sign on, get all your benefits, sit in the benfits office all day demanding new carpets and fridge freezers and the like. All at my expense!
It's all me 4r$e
PsychoCannon
21-02-07, 10:08 AM
Tax on pleasant views, does this mean I can apply for a tax discount every time the pikies set up camp nearby?
And what if after the re-evaluation they up more houses or build an eye sore shopping center or block of flats that kill my view, can I get it re-evaluated down for the "loss of pleasant view", like bollox you will.
This will work one way only, up.
This was shown in Wales and Scotland already and saving energy or painting your house has no impact on the cost of council services so this is nothing more than another mugging excercise.
I'm seriously thinking about which country to move to :(
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