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Wondering if anyone can answer?
Which is the better chain X or O Ring?? Also what are the differences?
I need to replace the chain and sprockets on my 650s K3 and was quriouse as to which type of chain to go for?
cheers
Neil
Gold, 24ct
HTH
Seriously, pick one you like the colour of. X and O refer to the shape of the o'rings(the rubber bit between the face plates and the roller. They all do the same job. Its all down to what colour you want and how many earth pounds you have in your pocket. Adjustment and Lubrication and lack of, is waht kills chains. Rictus had the cheapes chain you could buy from Busters and got, yes really, over 60k out of it.
Sid Squid
22-02-07, 07:04 PM
In practice there's no difference between 'O' ring and 'X' ring chains. They both have seals in them that mean the only bit that can be lubed is the outer roller and the chain/sprocket meshing surfaces. It's claimed that 'X' ring chains are better sealed with less seal friction than 'O' ring chains, but you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference.
Buy one of the known names, DID, EK, Regina etc and look after it, that's the way to make a chain last - whatever make it is.
Cheers Viney,
I willl get a Renthal Standard Front and Rear Sprockets and Tsubaki Alpha X Ring Chain set i have seen on Bike Bitz for £92.
A lot cheeper than the £130 the Suzuki dealer wanted, before fitting costs!!
Keeping the chain lubricated wont be a problem as i have a scottoiler fitted.
And i will also make sure i get a massive 24ct gold chain for me neck as well then!!
Cheers Viney,
I willl get a Renthal Standard Front and Rear Sprockets and Tsubaki Alpha X Ring Chain set i have seen on Bike Bitz for £92.
A lot cheeper than the £130 the Suzuki dealer wanted, before fitting costs!!
Keeping the chain lubricated wont be a problem as i have a scottoiler fitted.
And i will also make sure i get a massive 24ct gold chain for me neck as well then!!
You wont go wrong with that. Thats well cheap as well.
Yeah it surprised me with the price, thought it was less VAT at first, then went all through the payment process and the total payable was £99 inc delivery.
Well pleased!
Whenever I've ordered the El-Cheapo from Busters they have delivered either EK or DID. I thought I was doing well topping 20K on my Thou so Rictus must be a chain God *bows head*
Sid Squid
22-02-07, 07:49 PM
Got 53,000 from the original C&S on my ZX6.
Cheers Viney,
I willl get a Renthal Standard Front and Rear Sprockets and Tsubaki Alpha X Ring Chain set i have seen on Bike Bitz for £92.
A lot cheeper than the £130 the Suzuki dealer wanted, before fitting costs!!
Keeping the chain lubricated wont be a problem as i have a scottoiler fitted.
And i will also make sure i get a massive 24ct gold chain for me neck as well then!!
Don't forget even though you have a scott oiler fitted you still need to clean the chain!!
I clean the chain reguarly as well, also add spray chain lube to it as well now and then. i take it that is ok when used with a scottoiler?
Spiderman
22-02-07, 08:01 PM
Cheers Viney,
I willl get a Renthal Standard Front and Rear Sprockets and Tsubaki Alpha X Ring Chain set i have seen on Bike Bitz for £92.
A lot cheeper than the £130 the Suzuki dealer wanted, before fitting costs!!
Keeping the chain lubricated wont be a problem as i have a scottoiler fitted.
And i will also make sure i get a massive 24ct gold chain for me neck as well then!!
thats the combo i got and this http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=84303 is what happens to the sprockets if you dont keep your chain well adjusted and in good condition. You got a scotoiler so that half the job done but keep it well adjusted wont you.
All my own fault btw and i'm not trying to put you off your new purchase but showing you how bad it an get if you are too busy swinging thru town fighting crime rther than loking after you bike properly ;)
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f368/Stuey76/mr_t.jpghttp://img133.imageshack.us/img133/7748/mrtrj1.png
thats the combo i got and this http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=84303 is what happens to the sprockets if you dont keep your chain well adjusted and in good condition. You got a scotoiler so that half the job done but keep it well adjusted wont you.
All my own fault btw and i'm not trying to put you off your new purchase but showing you how bad it an get if you are too busy swinging thru town fighting crime rther than loking after you bike properly ;)
Wow, and how many miles was that on? i am hoping the scotoiler and regular maint will keep mine from going the same way!!
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f368/Stuey76/mr_t.jpghttp://img133.imageshack.us/img133/7748/mrtrj1.png
Cuffy? :)
A Scottoiler is the business, my SV (when I still had her) did 10K with only one chain adjustment (apart from the 3 rear tyres fitted) and was as good as new.
northwind
22-02-07, 10:12 PM
Renthals are aluminium sprockets, remember, means they won't last as well as steel- though they seem to be the best of the aluminium sprockets by a mile. They're not at all tolerant of an ill-kept chain, tears them up in no time, but I've had about 15000 miles out of mine at a rough guess, which is more than I expected from ally.
If you want it to last, get steel and a scottoiler.
Got 20,000 out of the original ZX6R chain though in fairness it had only had a scottoiler for the last 10,000 miles of that, and it was the front sprocket that was worn, I changed the whole lot together and the guy fron Essential Rubber commented that the chain was actually in good nick.
I am going to get a scott oiler before I go to France in August. Now, how I clean my chain at present is by using a castrol degreasing chain cleaner spray. This seems to really degrease the links. Then of course I use a spray chainwax to lube it well cos I realise that the insides must have got degreased as well. So, when I have fitted a scottoiler and come to clean the chain I would like to use this castrol chain cleaner again. The problem I can see is that I will have to lube the chain manually directly after cleaning it because the scottoiler is going to take a while to put enough lube onto the chain. Should I just use chainwax initially or what?
Also is the way to tell if a chain is wasted simply by measuring it?
John
I clean the chain reguarly as well, also add spray chain lube to it as well now and then. i take it that is ok when used with a scottoiler?
Yes, its OK to use chain lube as well, but pointless as it only serves to make a mess that dont come off very well.
I am going to get a scott oiler before I go to France in August. Now, how I clean my chain at present is by using a castrol degreasing chain cleaner spray. This seems to really degrease the links. Then of course I use a spray chainwax to lube it well cos I realise that the insides must have got degreased as well. So, when I have fitted a scottoiler and come to clean the chain I would like to use this castrol chain cleaner again. The problem I can see is that I will have to lube the chain manually directly after cleaning it because the scottoiler is going to take a while to put enough lube onto the chain. Should I just use chainwax initially or what?
Also is the way to tell if a chain is wasted simply by measuring it?
John
Dont use chain wax - it is crap.
I clean with WD40 and that lubes it well enough until the Scotoiler does its job.
Measuring the chain is the proper way to tell if it is knackered, I cannot remember the figures, but the chain manu's will tell you. However checking for stiff links and worn sprockets is just as important.
Yes, its OK to use chain lube as well, but pointless as it only serves to make a mess that dont come off very well.
If that is the case, and going on what your thread aftersaid then i will let the scottoiler do its job. Take it for a long ride to get enough oile over it.
You could stick it on prime for the first couple of miles to get the juices flowing so to speak.....
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