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Sorry folks, but I have a niggling little question:
When is a fruit, not a fruit, but in fact a vegetable?
Please note, I'm not interested in the occurences of a fruit being a vegetable, just a fruit that isn't a fruit, but is a vegetable.
(NOR logic, not OR/AND).
Sorry folks, but I have a niggling little question:
When is a fruit, not a fruit, but in fact a vegetable?
Please note, I'm not interested in the occurences of a fruit being a vegetable, just a fruit that isn't a fruit, but is a vegetable.
(NOR logic, not OR/AND).
fruits have seeds, veg don't
fruits have seeds, veg don't
That doens't answer the puzzle though now does it?
Carsick
27-02-07, 03:59 PM
Is this the rhubarb issue where the americans were defining import duty (or whatever) based on how something was eaten rather than botanical types?
fruits have seeds, veg don't
Is that correct?
Carsick
27-02-07, 04:02 PM
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From Wiki
In botany, a fruit is the ripened ovary—together with seeds—of a flowering plant.
Vegetable is a culinary term. Its definition has no scientific value and is somewhat arbitrary and subjective. All parts of herbaceous plants eaten as food by humans, whole or in part, are generally considered vegetables.
bananas aren't real fruit are they?
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From Wiki
In botany, a fruit is the ripened ovary—together with seeds—of a flowering plant.
Vegetable is a culinary term. Its definition has no scientific value and is somewhat arbitrary and subjective. All parts of herbaceous plants eaten as food by humans, whole or in part, are generally considered vegetables.
Now there's a pleasant thought...
:lol:
PsychoCannon
27-02-07, 04:36 PM
bananas aren't real fruit are they?
They are but the sort you eat are the result of selective breeding and human interferance (wild Bananas have seeds, the ones in Tesco's don't)
They are but the sort you eat are the result of selective breeding and human interferance (wild Bananas have seeds, the ones in Tesco's don't)
cool, like seedless grapes. wonder why more seedless fuits haven't been developed?
Carsick
27-02-07, 04:44 PM
cool, like seedless grapes. wonder why more seedless fuits haven't been developed?
Because it's not advantageous to the plant. The point of a fruit (as much as evolution has a point, I know, different argument) is to coax animals into spreading the seeds. If there is no seed in the thing that the animal picks and eats, then the plant doesn't spread.
OK OK, I'll give you a hint:
It involves a clever treadmill ;)
OK OK, I'll give you a hint:
It involves a clever treadmill ;)
and a plane that wont fly:smt041
Because it's not advantageous to the plant. The point of a fruit (as much as evolution has a point, I know, different argument) is to coax animals into spreading the seeds. If there is no seed in the thing that the animal picks and eats, then the plant doesn't spread.
yeah i understand that but seedless fruits must advantageous to people who grow and sell them as they are more valuable (surely?). was just wondering why the only fruits that have been developed without seeds are citrus fruits, grapes, bananas and watermelons (according to wikipedia).
gettin2dizzy
27-02-07, 04:48 PM
one of the many odd jobs i had was a watermelon sexer. I had to divide up male and female watermelons. The female didn't have any seeds and were 4 times more expensive to buy. \\:D/
OK OK, I'll give you a hint:
It involves a clever treadmill ;)
what was the question again??
and a plane that wont fly:smt041
Check out my avatar for proof of that whole debate ;)
what was the question again??
When is a fruit, not a fruit, but in fact a vegetable?
Check out my avatar for proof of that whole debate ;)
Is this the rhubarb issue where the americans were defining import duty (or whatever) based on how something was eaten rather than botanical types?
is carsick right??? sounds like a good answer to me.
Rhubarb is a Perennial plant, not a fruit, not a vegetable. So nope, that's not right.
Rhubarb is considered a vegetable because it's close to a Sorrel, and considered a fruit because it's eaten as a desert. It's in fact, a plant.
Carsick is right that the american's classified Rhubarb for tax purposes on how it's eaten though :)
(You eat the stem of the plant)
Rhubarb is a Perennial plant, not a fruit, not a vegetable. So nope, that's not right.
Rhubarb is considered a vegetable because it's close to a Sorrel, and considered a fruit because it's eaten as a desert. It's in fact, a plant.
(You eat the stem of the plant)
i know that.
i clearly don't understand the question. maybe it's because i'm a liberal airhead?
The question couldn't be simpler. A fruit that isn't a fruit, but is a vegetable.
Rubarb doesn't work, because it's neither.
Another hint: It involves McDonalds.
What does a tomato have to do with Maccy D's? :P
What does a tomato have to do with Maccy D's? :P
Shhh, don't spoil it :P
The question couldn't be simpler. A fruit that isn't a fruit, but is a vegetable.
Rubarb doesn't work, because it's neither.
Another hint: It involves McDonalds.
A Big Mac!!
No, Tomato, gherkin, mcflurry, apple pie, fries, lettuce?
egg mcmuffin??
I really want a egg & sausage mcmuffin now! I must be mad :puker:
EDIT: OK OK... I'll give in.
The "clever treadmill" is clever, because it know's it's no treadmill. It know's it's a conveyor belt.
This conveyor belt is used to import goods to the US. In this particular case, as Ping hinted at, it's importing a box of tomatoes.
Tomatoes have seeds, but are eaten with a main meal, therefore is a fruit, but considered to be a vegetable too.
It's legally (as defined by American law) not a fruit, because a single object cannot be both, and you would have to pay tax on the import (if it was you doing the importation).
How is McDonalds involved? Well, it's McDonalds that's doing the importing, because this case of tomatoes is destined to make ketchup for their Quarter pounders etc.
;)
I really want a egg & sausage mcmuffin now! I must be mad :puker:
ewww they look grim. egg mcmuffins are yummy though :D
is it a fuit bag that can be a portion of fries???
ok i give up. what's the answer????
Look up a few posts...
why's a tomato a vegetable? i don't get it
Filipe M.
27-02-07, 05:31 PM
Because it's not eaten for dessert. ;)
Carsick
27-02-07, 05:32 PM
I was close, though, it was to do with americans and import tax.
Because it's not eaten for dessert. ;)
but lots of fruits aren't (normally) eaten for pudding.
As someone else's sig went.
Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit.
Common sense is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad.
As someone else's sig went.
Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit.
Common sense is knowing not to put it in a fruit salad.
http://www.recipezaar.com/123015
ewwwww this is just WRONG
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