Asbo

[Blue_SV650S]

Word on the street is that if you haven’t got an ASBO then you are a nobody … :tiesto:

Well I kinda managed to pick up an ASBO type thing the other day … does that make me cool?? 8) :) :D

[keithd]

cant help you there 'fraid. as i have no asbo against my legendary name i am possibly therefore a nobody and not in a postion to offer credible comment

HTH

[Spiderman]

An ASBO type thing??? Whats that then?

C'mon, spill the beans you!

[Blue_SV650S]

An ASBO type thing??? Whats that then?

C'mon, spill the beans you!

I was riding a dirt bike on a bit of waste ground … :riding:

I had only been there 10 mins … but just my luck some local council dudes were patrolling the area at the time and waved me down :pale: … being the honest citizen I am, I rode over to them (rather than just fecking off as most yob kids would have done! :rant: ) …

Anyhoo long story short, they did just give me a slapped wrist, but they still had to document the case … they gave me a duplicate of the piece of paper from their notebook thingy saying about the incident (with the incident and my details) … when I got it home I looked at the top of the paper and it had ASBO on the top!! 8)

Anway it was just a slapped wrist and just the pad they use, so nothing will come of it - its not like I have been given an actual ASBO, but now my name is on file for the incident … What I find a little irritating is that had I just fecked off that they would have never caught me (they were on foot and I was on a bike) :smt103 and my details would never have been taken/on file … :-({|=.... perhaps a lesson to us all there … if you are gonna do something slightly naughty - scarper, don’t go to teacher with tail between legs and take the punishment like the dillweed I am!! :laughat::oops:

[Spiderman]

Nah mate, i think you did the right thing. Just a shame the 2 nazis you encountered dont know how to have a word and nothing more with the right people. Tw@s

[kwak zzr]

:smt018 naughty boy;)

[Blue_SV650S]

:smt018 naughty boy;)

He's not the Messiah - He's a very naughty boy! :smt082 :D

Nah mate, i think you did the right thing. Just a shame the 2 nazis you encountered dont know how to have a word and nothing more with the right people. Tw@s

It was 'my bad' and I guess they have to justify their existence by taking completed pieces of paper home to their boss! ;)

[Jabba]

Just a shame the 2 nazis you encountered dont know how to have a word and nothing more with the right people. Tw@s

:toss:

Those two "nazis" were just doing their job.

Local authorities get lots of complaints from about noise and disturbance from inconsiderate bikers riding unlawfully on public land close to residential areas at all hours of day and night. Obviously, you don't suffer or you wouldn't have used the word "nazis". Shame on you.

One lot round here ride over the schools football pitches making them unusable.

[Blue_SV650S]

:toss:

Those two "nazis" were just doing their job.

Local authorities get lots of complaints from about noise and disturbance from inconsiderate bikers riding unlawfully on public land close to residential areas at all hours of day and night. Obviously, you don't suffer or you wouldn't have used the word "nazis". Shame on you.

Quite, they said they have quite a problem with kids on minimotos at the moment and were cracking down … the reason they only gave me a slapped wrist is that I wasn’t the sort of person they were targeting (first offence, adult, riding where noone was - on a proper, well silenced bike in the middle of the day) …

Oh and by the way FYI, not only is it a big patch of land itself with trees etc, where I was, but there is a busy main road between where I was and the residential area … so I was riding naughtily, but in my particular incidence, NOISE wasn’t really the issue. But yes, pest kids in residential areas are giving bikes (minimotos in particular) a bad name …

I was in the wrong - simple as that … I got caught and thankfully I only got a slapped wrist, I just feel the details taking made it all a bit too official for a slapped wrist :? Oh and sods law the first time I rode the bike in about 18 months and I got knobbled in the first 10 mins #-o:oops: :lol:

[Well Oiled]

T'was not an asbo - I know as I have have had asbos slapped on three people in our neighbourhood. Believe me you need a lot of evidence over a period of time, and you need to go to court to get the asbo imposed.

BTW - ASBOs are a good thing - there are times when what some people are doing is not strictly illegal but is extremely anti-socialm, and they are just laughing in the faces of the Police and the people in the neighbourhood. It worked for us - the scumbags scarpered from our neighbouhood within a week of the ASBO's being imposed.

[Jelster]

You sure it wasn't another one of your traffic cop mates :D

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[Blue_SV650S]

You sure it wasn't another one of your traffic cop mates :D

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Do I have the worst luck or what?!?! :D

[Baph]

:toss:

Those two "nazis" were just doing their job.

Local authorities get lots of complaints from about noise and disturbance from inconsiderate bikers riding unlawfully on public land close to residential areas at all hours of day and night. Obviously, you don't suffer or you wouldn't have used the word "nazis". Shame on you.

One lot round here ride over the schools football pitches making them unusable.
We have to suffer the noise from local kids on the school grounds just at the back of the house pretty often.

They're not riding bikes etc, but playing with a nitro powered RC car. My response? Giz' a go mate!

As far as I'm concerned, our house is the closest to the school (well, the part they stay in, with the playground), and they have to pass VERY close to our house to even get to the playground. I've told the kids (mostly aged between 9-17 year old) that if anyone complains to them, to politely send them round to my house to pass on their complaint. Then I'll tell them where to shove their thoughts (probably not as politely as I've told the kids to be :oops:)

There's feck all for the kids to do by us, and they've found something they like & doesn't really do any harm. Yes, there's some noise, but frig me, it's only noise! It could be far worse!

If the council have to act on any complaints made, I'll put a damn appeal in on the kids behalves!

(I've actually seen a local scroat try to kick the mirror off my galaxy too, but I didn't do anything about it. This same group of kids with the RC car also saw it, and they told the scroat where to go. There was no damage to the car, so I left peer pressure to do it's thing :) )

[Jelster]

Do I have the worst luck or what?!?! :D

Probably, I bet Mr Council Worker is a part time bobby too :D

Glad that it was nothing too harsh this time...

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[21QUEST]

Do I have the worst luck or what?!?! :D

You are just a menace to society Bluey :wink:

Bad Boi for life, innit blood :smile:


Ben

[Blue_SV650S]

You are just a menace to society Bluey :wink:

Bad Boi for life, innit blood :smile:


Ben

Bad_Boi_Blue - from de' hood .. innit!! 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
:rave:

[Fizzy Fish]

i'm in 2 minds about it the whole asbo thing tbh - i hate how nanny state this country can be sometimes, and i'd much rather kids, etc could play on bikes off the road than go round thieving cos they're bored. and hell i'd love to be able to ride dirt bikes around like that myself!!

but at the same time i've lived next to playing fields before where the kids would just ride whiney 2 stroke dirt bikes up and down every day. the 7am start on weekends (when i was often nursing a hangover) didn't really endear them to me, nor did the regular burning of cars/stolen bikes the other side of our fence which once made me think that the house was on fire (and trust me you don't ever want that heart-stopping experience!)

[Baph]

i'm in 2 minds about it the whole asbo thing tbh - i hate how nanny state this country can be sometimes, and i'd much rather kids, etc could play on bikes off the road than go round thieving cos they're bored. and hell i'd love to be able to ride dirt bikes around like that myself!!
Amen! So long as there's no harm done, sod the ASBO's. Noise, even when hung over, I can cope with. There have been times when it wasn't such a good thing, but that can be sorted out nicely (Eg, "lads, sorry, but the lil one is having a kip, would you mind knocking it off for a while, and I'll let you know when he's awake again?")

ASBOs have their place though. Sometimes I can see that it would be the only real way to solve a dispute.

[timwilky]

I once fell foul of the plod whilst shooting, they tried to say I was tresspassing with a firearm (Licensed) and in deep trouble. Until I pointed out that at that precise moment, they were the tresspassers.

The same with the idiots who would ride mountain bikes, on the public footpaths that ran through our fields. Worse was the people who thought they could wander and exercise dogs etc.

Simple. If you do not have the land owners permission to be there. You are tresspassing. Get off and if you wish to ride a dirt bike, buy some land to ride on.

[Spiderman]

:toss:

Those two "nazis" were just doing their job.

Local authorities get lots of complaints from about noise and disturbance from inconsiderate bikers riding unlawfully on public land close to residential areas at all hours of day and night. Obviously, you don't suffer or you wouldn't have used the word "nazis". Shame on you.

One lot round here ride over the schools football pitches making them unusable.

Simply meant that they didnt need to take details of someone who they have encountered for the very frist time and is clearly not their normal "target group". yes they were doing their jobs but they could easily have not taken details but engaged in conversation with an adult who was sensible enough to not do a runner but come and speak to them.

In the same vain, the coppers who let the lady go after she'd driven into the back of me while on the phone, were doing their jobs. Their attitude being that since there was no fatality and it was a busy dual carriageway there was no point in prosecuting the woman.
When she kills someone they will until then they didnt even want to record it in their books.
Again my point it that there are lots of ways to do what you are paid to do, some of them involve using your brains and good judgment.

[Tomcat]

I once fell foul of the plod whilst shooting, they tried to say I was tresspassing with a firearm (Licensed) and in deep trouble. Until I pointed out that at that precise moment, they were the tresspassers.

The same with the idiots who would ride mountain bikes, on the public footpaths that ran through our fields. Worse was the people who thought they could wander and exercise dogs etc.

Simple. If you do not have the land owners permission to be there. You are tresspassing. Get off and if you wish to ride a dirt bike, buy some land to ride on.

so are you saying here that is was ok for you to tresspass to shoot, but not ok for dirt bikes to do the same?

Live and let live a bit, one single trial bike in an old quarry or disused waste ground is slightly different to 12 kids rip roaring around a housing estate. Common sense is surely the issue here?

[Blue_SV650S]

... To be fair where I was was MOD owned wasteland ... they probably had no jurisdiction there anyway!?!? ;)

[Blue_SV650S]

Live and let live a bit, one single trial bike in an old quarry or disused waste ground is slightly different to 12 kids rip roaring around a housing estate. Common sense is surely the issue here?

Which is why I only got a slapped wrist ...

At the end of the day it was a fair cop - as you mentioned a slapped wrist was all it needed and all I really got ... the justice circle is complete ;)

But am I one of the cool kids now I have a kinda ASBO?!?! 8)

[Tomcat]

But am I now one of the cool kids now I have a kinda ASBO?!?! 8)


Ok OK if it makes you feel young ... Yes your cool


(God some people will do anything to be in wif da yoof)

[Blue_SV650S]

Ok OK if it makes you feel young ... Yes your cool


(God some people will do anything to be in wif da yoof)



Its official … Bad-Boi-Blue rocks!! {finds a cap, puts it on and turns 135 degrees}

I am a well-ard mofo … look at me you b-atches!?!? :D {walks off with a silly bouncy walk dragging one leg slightly} :D

[Tomcat]

Its official … Bad-Boi-Blue rocks!! {finds a cap, puts it on and turns 135 degrees}

I am a well-ard mofo … look at me you b-atches!?!? :D {walks off with a silly bouncy walk dragging one leg slightly} :D


flickin hand as tho got a boggie on it that won't come off ;)

[timwilky]

so are you saying here that is was ok for you to tresspass to shoot, but not ok for dirt bikes to do the same?

Live and let live a bit, one single trial bike in an old quarry or disused waste ground is slightly different to 12 kids rip roaring around a housing estate. Common sense is surely the issue here?


No The point I was making was that I was on family land. They were driving up the road, heard shots stopped walked through the fields to me. I was not tresspassing, they were.

I have had problems for years of people on dirt bikes riding through meadows and chewing them up. Dogs being encouraged to run/deficate on the fields with the excuse that "It is a public footpath". Well get back on the footpath and put the dog on a lead. You are a nuisance to the land owner, common sense says if you have no permission to be there, you shouldn't. As for the argument about "an old quarry or disused waste ground ", a land owner has a duty of care and has to make efforts to protect the public from harm. This generally involves fencing off the land etc. Then joe public think fit to destroy the methods used to protect them from harm. Who then get prosecuted when joe public gets their just rewards.

[Baph]

No The point I was making was that I was on family land. They were driving up the road, heard shots stopped walked through the fields to me. I was not tresspassing, they were.

I have had problems for years of people on dirt bikes riding through meadows and chewing them up. Dogs being encouraged to run/deficate on the fields with the excuse that "It is a public footpath". Well get back on the footpath and put the dog on a lead. You are a nuisance to the land owner, common sense says if you have no permission to be there, you shouldn't. As for the argument about "an old quarry or disused waste ground ", a land owner has a duty of care and has to make efforts to protect the public from harm. This generally involves fencing off the land etc. Then joe public think fit to destroy the methods used to protect them from harm. Who then get prosecuted when joe public gets their just rewards.
To be fair, I can sort of see where tim is coming from here.

Growing up, a mate lived on a farm. Did we cause hell on the quads & bikes? Why yes we did :D His dad wasn't too keen, and we were told strictly to stay off certain fields at certain times of the year, so we did.

If the land is used for business reasons, fair play, get the feck off if you don't have permission. If it's waste, who the hell does it affect?

[hovis]

i got cought red handed (well i did have red gloves on) practicing a bit of the old bouncy, bouncy, wheelie,stopies on my trials bike in the middle of the road, copper just told me to stay off the main road................which was nice

[Tomcat]

No The point I was making was that I was on family land. They were driving up the road, heard shots stopped walked through the fields to me. I was not tresspassing, they were.

I have had problems for years of people on dirt bikes riding through meadows and chewing them up. Dogs being encouraged to run/deficate on the fields with the excuse that "It is a public footpath". Well get back on the footpath and put the dog on a lead. You are a nuisance to the land owner, common sense says if you have no permission to be there, you shouldn't. As for the argument about "an old quarry or disused waste ground ", a land owner has a duty of care and has to make efforts to protect the public from harm. This generally involves fencing off the land etc. Then joe public think fit to destroy the methods used to protect them from harm. Who then get prosecuted when joe public gets their just rewards.

I hear what you are saying ... but there are obvious places that are not used. With all due respect if the farmer uses the land you can tell. Disused land IS still around, you just have to hunt it out.

I think your coment about presecution is exaggerating, if you were tresspassing you take your own risks and pay your own prices.

[Baph]

To move the subject away from farms...

We used to play on bikes in a school grounds (outside of school hours & no-one else was around). I've even still now got the marks from concrete burns I suffered in an off (I was a kid, naturally proper gear didn't come into the equation), and a number of times, my friends have come running over to me thinking that I'd just killed myself.

Whenever I did any damage to me, completely my fault. My parents also saw it this way (and as such I got grounded for being injured - which is fair enough IMO). No legal action towards anyone.

All that stopped when the local plod started turning up on bikes as well :(

We did no real harm to anyone or the land/buildings, but I do accept that it was still technically wrong. But then, I did a lot of things that weren't right when I was a kid. ASBO's didn't exist back then, and it was never pushed too far.

So why do the kids of today push things so far? We never would of, and not for fear, mainly for respect.

[timwilky]

The problem is with "Waste land" that today we have a blame/claim culture and a nanny state that tells people that they have a right to be protected from harming themselves.

Whilst I accept that you all know that any harm that befalls you is of your own making and you are solely responsible and would never consider making a claim against the owner of the land. Unfortunately this is not the case of the many scroats who inhabit this country. Whilst the claims are frivalous there are still costs involved in defending them and increasing insurance premiums. if you little 8 year old falls down a quarry face because somebody has smashed up the fence to get a dirt bike there, who are you going to blame. Your child or the land owner for not maintaining the fence.

Sorry if I sound a killjoy, but the fact is many dirt bikers are a real problem, you may not cause damage, but many take advantage of the damage others have done.

[Tomcat]

Tim. You have good points, and I can only speak for the way i chose to behave, you obviously have experience of inconsiderate off roaders. We shall have to agree to disagree. ( although if my 8 year old were close to a quarry face, fence or no fence, he would get a b*llocking from me)!

From my point of view it's all about balance. I also disagree with this nanny state, and that could well be the larger issue here.

Anyway, I will be sure not to bike on your ground, you being a gun owner and all that ;)

[Baph]

( although if my 8 year old were close to a quarry face, fence or no fence, he would get a b*llocking from me)!

Agreed, my folks took the view that if I chose to do anything & got injured as a result, it was my fault. That's one value I have definately taken from them!

[Blue_SV650S]

I was fortunate … ‘when I were a lad’ :D I used to live in the {farmers voice} country :) and my best mate at school, his dad owned a farm … so I spent most of my yoof playing on bikes on his dads land … his dad took the view that at least he knew where we were and we also knew which bits were ‘working’ land and therefore where not to go … everyone was happy!! 8)

I fully agree with timwilky, people need to respect private property, simple as that …

But as Tomcat was saying with a bit of common sense, although it is still naughty, no harm is really done … so who really cares? It is also a shame that the blame culture makes these situations more muddy (pardon the pun :D) than they should be …

I am not saying what I did was right, but I made a judgement call on the impact and I felt no harm was done … but I also accept that I got caught and I got a slapped wrist … that’s fair enough :)

FYI I’d never dream of ripping across some ‘working’ land on a bike … again, having grown up around people that make a living from the land, I have respect for that ...

[Tomcat]

I was fortunate … ‘when I were a lad’ :D I used to live in the {farmers voice} country :) and my best mate at school, his dad owned a farm … so I spent most of my yoof playing on bikes on his dads land … his dad took the view that at least he knew where we were and we also knew which bits were ‘working’ land and therefore where not to go … everyone was happy!! 8)

I fully agree with timwilky, people need to respect private property, simple as that …

But as Tomcat was saying with a bit of common sense, although it is still naughty, no harm is really done … so who really cares? It is also a shame that the blame culture makes these situations more muddy (pardon the pun :D) than they should be …

I am not saying what I did was right, but I made a judgement call on the impact and I felt no harm was done … but I also accept that I got caught and I got a slapped wrist … that’s fair enough :)

FYI I’d never dream of ripping across some ‘working’ land on a bike … again, having grown up around people that make a living from the land, I have respect for that ...

If you keep this up I am going to have to take the asbo off ya and give it too a more worthy lout ;)

[suicidesam]

August last year, four of us having a larf on mini-moto's on an old closed road.. closest house about 3 miles away. Had been there for half an hour when the plod showed up saying that one of us had tried to run a bloke over! we had not seen anyone on the road since we arrived. Plod tried to give us a telling off for it, 2 of us had arrived on bike's so had all the gear on and were the 2 caught on the moto's ;) when they arrived. After the usuall name's and where do you stay lark, they radio'd in to see who the bloke was complaining about.. answer came back.. A dark blue Corsa with 2 people in it :confused: Mate's car was a blue Proton with 2 blokes in, and 2 bikes sitting there :rolleyes:
Ended up that the bloke had a near miss with the plod's unmarked car that was spying on us looning about in the middle of nowhere :mrgreen:

[Blue_SV650S]

If you keep this up I am going to have to take the asbo off ya and give it too a more worthy lout ;)

Oh, but I so desperately want to be cool!! :D

Here what if I told you I was riding without a lid :) 8)

[Rich_UK]

Speaking of living in the country. My best friend is in a farming family, spent many hours racing around fields, only problem is that he had a DT125 and I had a suzuki GP100 that I found in my uncles shed and brought for £40.

It probably had the slickest tires I have ever seen which resulted in lots of accidents:)

Ahh all the good times...... :D

[Blue_SV650S]

Speaking of living in the country. My best friend is in a farming family, spent many hours racing around fields, only problem is that he had a DT125 and I had a suzuki GP100 that I found in my uncles shed and brought for £40.

It probably had the slickest tires I have ever seen which resulted in lots of accidents:)

Ahh all the good times...... :D

Thats all good :) ... I was ragging around (over the years) on a combination of Yamaha Pasola ... CB125J (most use/longest lived of all these bikes) ... C90 ... MT5 (60cc (65cc?) big bore 8)) ... er ... oh and some peddle moped thingy ... moblette?? My mate had a TL125 ... which I blagged the odd go on :smt038 ... but as you can see apart from the MT5, none of mine were really suitable for offroad!! :D :D :D It was still cracking fun and I learnt so much :smt045

[Rich_UK]

Yeah he also had a C90, one you could start with pedals :D not suprisingly it didnt last that long after we started constructing jumps though.

But still I totally agree, learnt so much about riding by just playing about in a muddy field for years :smt045