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hovis
10-03-07, 07:19 PM
got my scottoiler set to NO. 1 but the oil is coming out 1 drip every 5 seconds, any ideas?
:confused:

BILLY
10-03-07, 07:29 PM
Yeah remove it and lube your chain like normal people:mrgreen:

rictus01
10-03-07, 07:29 PM
read the instructions :smt102

Cheers Mark.

hovis
10-03-07, 07:30 PM
got it off ebay.............. no instructions:(

rictus01
10-03-07, 07:32 PM
got it off ebay.............. no instructions:(

And no website ?

Stingo
10-03-07, 09:21 PM
Is it brand new or second hand? If it's new, and there's a problem, you should be able to refer back to the 'dealer' or 'seller' - spose you could always email scottoiler.

andyaikido
10-03-07, 09:25 PM
That flow rate is way too fast, and probably dangerous.

Scottoiler suggest 2 drips per minute but I found this to be too much.

I started at 2 drips p/min and kept turning it down untill there was only a little bit of oil splatter on the rear wheel.

hovis
10-03-07, 09:32 PM
Is it brand new or second hand? If it's new, and there's a problem, you should be able to refer back to the 'dealer' or 'seller' - spose you could always email scottoiler.

second hand off ebay:(

Jabba
11-03-07, 09:54 AM
Hovi5,

Scottoiler say 1 - 2 dpm..... say 1.5dpm, so that's one drip every 40 secs.

Are you using "proper" Scotoil? The current colour is blue but there may be some peeps with an old bottle of the red stuff lurking about. They do a red oil but that is for use in high temp places.

Where have you mounted your reservoir? If it's too close to the engine or in a warm airflow then the viscosity will reduce and flow too quickly.

Strange that it should be flowing too fast - hope the internals of the reservoir are okay, not that there's much to go wrong. Does the oil flow stop when the engine stops?

Beenz
11-03-07, 10:37 AM
Hovi5,

.... so that's one drip Borne every 40 secs.


:shock:

If its not dripping when the engine stops, this sounds like either the oil that you are using is way too thin (as Jabba stated) or that the oiler is out of whack. I had one go too slow and sent it to Scottoiler (with proof of purchase) who adjusted it and returned it in four days, that was only a couple of weeks old though and purchased from new. I dunno what they would charge for an old unit to be fixed if its not had the correct oil used.

Good Luck!

Jabba
11-03-07, 11:19 AM
I dunno what they would charge for an old unit to be fixed if its not had the correct oil used.

IIRC, Scotts sell pretty-much every component separately for maintenance purposes, so you could contact them to get new reservoir internals if that's the fault.

Just had another, perhaps bizarre, thought - could the dial at the top of the reservoir be 180deg out, i.e. someone's taken it apart and put it back together incorrectly? How far round does the indicator turn anti-clockwise past "1"?

fizzwheel
11-03-07, 04:25 PM
got my scottoiler set to NO. 1 but the oil is coming out 1 drip every 5 seconds, any ideas?
:confused:

That does sound a bit high, as others have said what sort of oil are you using in your oiler ?

The numbers are only a guide. I thought they did, but they dont correspond to drips per minute.

hovis
11-03-07, 06:18 PM
im using proper scottoil (blue) as i said 1 drop every 5 seconds and thats on the lowest setting, plus when i turn the bike off it leave a nice big puddle on the floor

i dont have numbers on it, i have pictures drips that get bigger any idea how old it is? as i know the new ones have numbers.
i think the spring inside could be worn out?

the res. is where most peeps put it behind the black side pannel.

fizzwheel
11-03-07, 06:19 PM
plus when i turn the bike off it leave a nice big puddle on the floor

Your Scotoiler is f*cked. Or you didnt connect the Vacumn feed pipe properly or its become disconnected.

Edit : Found this on the Scotoiler website

The system continues to deliver oil when the engine is off.
Check breather for blockage. This can create a vacuum within the RMV that will hold the valve open. To check - disconnect the breather and run system. Attempt to clear breather by blowing slowly through, or contact Scottoilers for replacement breather (part 9). NB - do not run the system without the breather for any length of time, as the oil can become contaminated with dirt. The internal 'O' ring has become contaminated with dirt and is not re-seating - attempt to clear by pumping bottle repeatedly when re-priming the system. This may dislodge dirt on the 'O' ring seal inside the reservo

hovis
11-03-07, 06:46 PM
i dont have numbers on it, i have pictures drips that get bigger any idea how old it is? as i know the new ones have numbers.
i think the spring inside could be worn out?
????????????????

Your Scotoiler is f*cked. Or you didnt connect the Vacumn feed pipe properly or its become disconnected.

Edit : Found this on the Scotoiler website

The system continues to deliver oil when the engine is off.
Check breather for blockage. This can create a vacuum within the RMV that will hold the valve open. To check - disconnect the breather and run system. Attempt to clear breather by blowing slowly through, or contact Scottoilers for replacement breather (part 9). NB - do not run the system without the breather for any length of time, as the oil can become contaminated with dirt. The internal 'O' ring has become contaminated with dirt and is not re-seating - attempt to clear by pumping bottle repeatedly when re-priming the system. This may dislodge dirt on the 'O' ring seal inside the reservo

tried that fizz;)

dont know if this might be somthing to do with it but.............

i did not shorten the vac pipe that goes from oiler to bike vac pipe, i just tucked it up out of the way?

fizzwheel
11-03-07, 07:23 PM
I wouldnt have thought that the length of he vac pipe would make a huge amount of difference. As long as the scotoiler has a vacum feed then it shouldnt leak oil out of the delivery pipe when the engine isnt running.

So if you disconnect the breather does it still leak oil all over the floor with the engine off ?

hovis
11-03-07, 11:13 PM
yes................. but i have just found the instructions my doing a search & need to try a few things first.

Beenz
12-03-07, 12:00 AM
Give Scott a call, they might be able to help as the current signs are that the reservior has a problem. An open oiler (vacuum working fine) should not deliver that rate. All the oilers I know weep when stood from the delivery tube, but not leave big puddles as you have seen.

As for mounting the reserviour, most I've fitted have been in the tail unit under the rear seat or cowl inside the left (when sitting on the bike) side pod on a pointy. This saves taking the bike to bits when topping up.

If you don't have it sorted before Porlock I'll have a look at the fitting if you like.

hovis
12-03-07, 08:51 AM
beenz.... thanx

i only have to take the black side panel off to get to it.

as i got it off ebay with no instructions i did the typical bloke thing & put it together myself, my breather is just a 3 inch pipe conneceted to the black rubber gromit thing, & not the proper bit with the plastic thing on the end, also i will replace the deliverer tube just in case.

im a bit reluctent to email scottoiler as i think its quite old due to having drips as markers instead of numbers

fizzwheel
12-03-07, 09:08 AM
Hovi5 drop them an email, they have quite frankly a heroic level of customer service. Even if they can't help you they'll tell you whether its faulty or not.

Just be careful you dont really wanna be riding around with that much oil coming out of it. I've found before that when I set mine to high, it lubed the back tyre as well as the chain. Dont want yourself having any slippy moments.

hovis
12-03-07, 09:14 AM
ok i will,

do you think it could be my home made breather? as its just a 3" pipe so you can breathe through it easy, but the proper breather(which i only just found out what it is) is a lot harder to breath through.

fizzwheel
12-03-07, 09:19 AM
I doubt it. If it leaks with no breather connected sure as eggs are eggs it will leak with any breather connected to it.

hovis
12-03-07, 12:56 PM
yup............your right

just tried a few things, its still the same
just sent e-mail to scottoiler
thanx for the advice.................watch this space

ejohnh
12-03-07, 09:30 PM
Hey Hovis,
Where did you get that avatar - I luv it!! lol!!
JOhn

hovis
13-03-07, 12:38 PM
Hey Hovis,
Where did you get that avatar - I luv it!! lol!!
JOhn

i made it myself............... with a little help from my freinds (ping,grinch,jabba)

hovis
13-03-07, 12:44 PM
got an email back from scotoiler asking me to send it off & they will have a look at it, as he thinks the spring may have gone:thumbsup:

if i disconect it, is it ok toleave the T-bar on the vac pipe unblocked when riding, or do i need to seal it?

Beenz
13-03-07, 05:49 PM
got an email back from scotoiler asking me to send it off & they will have a look at it, as he thinks the spring may have gone:thumbsup:

if i disconect it, is it ok toleave the T-bar on the vac pipe unblocked when riding, or do i need to seal it?

You have to seal it. Use a match (or lighter if your posh) to heat the end of the vac pipe then pinch it with pliers. That will stop it letting air in. When you get your oiler back, just snip off the very end. You should have enough slack in the tube to do that. Otherwise you'll need some new tubing.

hovis
14-03-07, 08:12 AM
if i disconect it, is it ok to leave the T-bar on the vac pipe unblocked when riding, or do i need to seal it?

You have to seal it. Use a match (or lighter if your posh) to heat the end of the vac pipe then pinch it with pliers. That will stop it letting air in. .

sorry im a tad cofussed........:confused:

would it not be eaiser to replace the T-bar piece with one that conects the 2 pipes together?

ejohnh
14-03-07, 10:31 AM
sorry im a tad cofussed........:confused:

would it not be eaiser to replace the T-bar piece with one that conects the 2 pipes together?

Yes Hovis, much easier - if you have got a suitable joining piece.

hovis
14-03-07, 02:49 PM
well........... just got off the phone with mark @ scottoiler 7 mine is knackerd:( it is 8 years old & they dont have the parts to fix it:(

BUT they are sending me a new one..............for a small fee;)

:thumbsup: to scottoiler