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me tomorrow so i dont have to put up with the muppet that i have to work with!
Boss is away,so im in charge (boss's words)...hmm funny that as the lad that works with me seems to think that the rules dont apply when boss isnt in and tries to run rings round me!
Today he went too far!
Turned up with his gf....they then proceed to use the WORK computer to look for jobs for her/emails etc....then at 11.30 go up town, 12-come back and go back onto computer..
She then slopes off upstairs (which is a staff only area!) and stays there as shes planning to stay all day! that was it!
Come 1pm he goes to me "Right im going upstairs to have lunch with my gf"
me-" No your not, your going to get your bike kit on and take her home, you have an hour as your using your lunch break"
He stand there glaring at me and before he could say anything i quietly and calmy pointed out that he wouldnt adre try and pull this little stunt had the boss been in so he neednt try it on with me.
Needless to say he took her home and didnt say 2 words to me for the rest of the day!
Now tbh im very laid back at work and dont usually have a go at him (hes pulled the gf on computer stunt before and ive bit my lip and said nothing) but today i had had enough! i was quite proud as i was calm and quiet but inside i was fuming!
Not looking foward to tomorrow! :(
Balky001
17-03-07, 10:01 PM
Paws - what do you do, who else is about? do you have clients or a workload to cover?
Work in Hein Gericke, just me and him until boss is back (monday), lots of work to do throughout day (serving cutomers etc) which i end up doing 95% of as hes too busy messing round with the gf while he should be working!
Balky001
17-03-07, 10:29 PM
If you are working in retail then his attitude is wrong- you can't have clients coming in with only you serving. I've been in a similar situation before and you just have to tell this guy you both have to pull your weight and if it’s quiet take turns having some time out. He knows you'll do the job as you sound more conscientious and sounds like he may be taking advantage of your good nature. Don't hold a grudge; go in with a good attitude but trying reasoning. If it doesn't work tell him he's out of order and the boss would go mad if he was to find out about him taking wages and not working. Also, what about the safety aspect - you always have two people on the shop floor. It's not your place to tell him what his job is but if he is not doing it you need to say something. Does the boss allow partners to stay all day? He knows he pulling a fast one.
Your in the right and he is the wrong, go in tomorrow with your head held high and if he starts just tell him what for.
Its obvious hes not really concerned about the job so suspect he wont be working there for long.
One question... does the store have a video surveillance system? You might want to remind him that it works both ways, how does he not know the boss is watch him to see what he's like when he's away? If he is sciving and your getting feed up, then just mention it to your boss. We all lark about at work, but when your busy everyone should pull together, not feck off and leave you on your tod.
Thing is if i dont do the work-it doesnt get done (well not properly!)
Partners are not allowed to hang around, esp on a sat-at the end of the day we are there to work.
He wouldnt DARE do this if boss was in and tahst whats peed me right off, he looked shocked though as i actually said something today!
Balky001
17-03-07, 10:42 PM
Thing is if i dont do the work-it doesnt get done (well not properly!)
Partners are not allowed to hang around, esp on a sat-at the end of the day we are there to work.
He wouldnt DARE do this if boss was in and tahst whats peed me right off, he looked shocked though as i actually said something today!
Good for you. Bet you were pleased you said something. Don't you worry about it - he should be worrying you are not going to cover for him. I know you don't want to create bad feelings at work (not that he cares by the looks of it) but you should make it clear he should at least match your work rate tomorrow to make sure you are in a good mood Monday and don't grass him up to the boss. Let him worry, not you. Poor paws - we're all behind you :p
Also do you have to log into the tills? Won't it show up the fact that he's done bugger all sales.
No cctb etc, yes we have log in for tills etc so his figures are showing hes doing naff all.
tbh i was shaking like a leaf after id spoke to him! its soooo out of place for me to say something! i do (sometimes) come across cheeky etc but in situs like that im quite...unsure and nervy?
Tris (my bloke) was really proud that id finally stood up for myslef and said something
Boss is aware of what hes up to as i text him.
Balky001
18-03-07, 11:13 AM
Hope it goes OK Paws. As the boss knows let him deal with any problems that come up from you telling this lazy boy to pull his weight. Don't worry!
Your in the right and he is the wrong, go in tomorrow with your head held high and if he starts just tell him what for.
Its obvious hes not really concerned about the job so suspect he wont be working there for long.
Falc summed up exactly what someone said to me last week.
I had an issue recently at work in which I felt I had been 'threatened' (not physically, just in a sort of 'do you really want to **** up your career by telling someone' way) by a colleague.
It was all because he was trying to do something he shouldn't and keep it quiet.
So, I ignored him and flagged it :D
We have got the issue all sorted, and we are mates again. However I do have a meeting on Monday with a Senior Manager to discuss how we make sure he doesn't try and take the **** again ;)
thedonal
18-03-07, 12:50 PM
Nice work for doing summink about it Paws- and now you've done it once, if he mucks around again, it'll be easier next time!!
Are you in charge because you're oldest? ;o)
im in charge as im older and i open up the shop/lock up/ cash up etc.
He didnt say a single word to me all day today! very mature!
how much discount do you get then?:rolleyes:
i'll come work with you paws...
Moffatt666
18-03-07, 10:50 PM
You guys get stuff at cost don't you?
nope, we get 20% off what you guys pay.
well what a joke, ive had a warning off the boss because i had a word with the lad on saturday as its caused an atmosphere in the shop which means its affecting customers etc.
Been told we either have to get on or seek other employment!-im going for second option at the mo, as the part timers been stirring aswell.
thedonal
20-03-07, 08:26 PM
Jeez- that sucks. Shop politics is one of the things that made me finally give up retail work (did 7 years hard labour in HMV- got off for good behaviour). Plus the ridiculously high workload for the stupidly low pay... Oh- and working Saturday and Sundays. Ah- and the rudeboy college kids giving it large. And....And.....etc
Moffatt666
20-03-07, 08:45 PM
When I worked at woolies, the store/area manager was the biggest idiot going. A quote:
Manager: "Whats that doing there?"
Colleague: "A supplier put it there"
M: "And you just watched her do it!?!?"
In retail, only the most inept become management. Only those who have the very least in the way of interpersonal skills make it. And having a degree more than makes-up for shortcomings in the competency stakes.
Of course there are exceptions, particularly in the smaller stores in food retail, but in a company like Woolies where the store manager earns nine times average shop floor worker's money and where one rule for one and one for another is prevailent it is just infuriating!
[/rant]
well what a joke, ive had a warning off the boss because i had a word with the lad on saturday as its caused an atmosphere in the shop which means its affecting customers etc.
Been told we either have to get on or seek other employment!-im going for second option at the mo, as the part timers been stirring aswell.
A&D Denbigh are looking for staff.
HTH ;)
Serious note, I can sort of understand the managers POV, but to "suggest" you change your ways or seek other employment, erm, what? You were left in charge! In my book, that means you take the credit when things go right, you take the crap when they don't. You also dish out appropriate rewards to staff that deserve it, and remprimand others that deserve that.
Rough with the smooth.
I'm also fairly sure that an insinuation like that from your manager is grounds for a formal complaint to Head Office ;)
Flamin_Squirrel
20-03-07, 09:27 PM
I'm also fairly sure that an insinuation like that from your manager is grounds for a formal complaint to Head Office ;)
I think HG are a franchise, so that ain't gonna do any good.
Biker Biggles
20-03-07, 10:06 PM
Managers eh?Oxymorons most of em:mad:
They tend to get where they are by being unfit for anything else,vaulting ambition and arselicking.Unfortunately we are living through an age where we big up management as the solution to all our problems whereas in fact it is the cause of most of them.Parasitic waste of space and the first up against the wall come my revolution.:viking:
fizzwheel
20-03-07, 10:30 PM
Maybe your manager is p*ssed off with the pair of you ? People management is a fine and rarely appreciated art. I used to every now and again say stuff like that to the people that worked for me, some stuff they did used to try my patience and every now and again I used to remind them that I was the boss and not the other way around. I'd give them plenty of warnings and opportunity to correct their behaviour and that I wouldnt look favourably on them if they didn't mend their ways and then If that didnt work, I'd say similar things to them that have been said to you. Probably not the best, but it used to clear up and resolve the petty bickering that was going on in my team.
Yes your colleague was taking the p*ss, but in his eyes at least it sounds like he thought you had no authority to reprimand him. If you were smart you'd have got to your boss before your colleague did and got in there first as it were.
Lesson learnt for next time,if your going to work up into a position where you manage people, then you'll have to learn to deal with this kind of thing. If you're not happy ask your manager for advice on how he would have dealt with the situation at least then it'll look like your keen on learning how to deal with this kind of thing, and then next time it happens, ( because it probably will ) you'll be more preapared for it. Doesnt matter what industry you work in if you have people management in your job role, your going to have to deal with it, changing jobs wont make the problem go away, you'll come across it again. If you like working there, stick it out, keep your head down and just be professional and get on with your job, bet you £5 english pounds the trouble makers will either get bored when they can't get to you or they'll leave. Dont give them the satisfaction of leaving your job, thats exactly what they want.
will admit i sat and bawled my eyes out tonight as its all got to me, i serioulsy love this job-its not the first time this lads been a pain in the ae*s but he seems to do what he wants and gets away with it!
Its the first time ive really said anything about him, and certainly the fitst time i had a word with him about what he was up to! :(
next time it happens, ( because it probably will ) you'll be more preapared for it.
Another view. Are you paid more for being in charge whilst your boss is away? Are you happy to take the extra responsibility, without the extra abilities (like reprimanding a slacker) & probably without the extra pay?
I know I wouldn't be, and I'd be refusing to take the responsability on without both those aspects (ability & pay) being sorted out. Your life is made difficult by you being "in charge," so why not make your bosses life more difficult when he/she leaves you in charge?
In the past, I've done just that. I remember a time working behind a bar, and one of the staff complained about a slacker (not me). The boss asked me about it to get a background of the situation from a "third party." I openly acknowledged the problem, and said it happens a lot more than he thought. My then boss asked me why I hadn't said anything to either the slacker or him. I responded by saying that it really wasn't my place to talk to the "slacker" because that wasn't my job, I was employed as simple "bar staff" & that I didn't consider that it warranted a full blast from the boss.
My bosses reply was simple "Well, now it is your job, you're now a bar supervisor, I'll let everyone know ASAP, and you can have an extra £X/hr. However, you let this situation occur again, and it'll be a formal disciplinary for you! You're behind the bar far more than I am, and from what you've just said, I know you'll treat the situation fairly."
He's one of the very few managers I loved working for actually.
EDIT in response to your post: All the above applies even more if you love the job. Stick with it, but don't take the crap from the boss with no extra pay. Do exactly what is required of you by contract (plus anything you're happy to do), and nothing more. It's illegal to sack you if you do that.
Don't let them get on top of you!
fizzwheel
20-03-07, 10:46 PM
Seriously go back to your boss and ask for help so that next time you know how he would like the situation handled. Trust me he'll respect you more for it, a good manager will also give you help and advice, and support you in the role. Also the lad in question will see you and your boss as a united front and that way he'll be less likely I expect to try it on in the future.
Like I said if you like your job stick at it. Or ask for the responsibility of being in charge to be removed from you, then that way it wont be your problem anymore ;)
Quiff Wichard
20-03-07, 10:59 PM
SHAME YOU AINT a publican like I was for ten years..
then you can have a good old totally against the rules and proffesional status of you position meeting....
and such a meeting is called..
" a cellar talk" .. !!...
the cellar- in the cellar NO ONE can hear you scream .
Paws.. serious- put it down to experience. keep your head down and dont get personal with it.. I think what you said and did was fine under the circumstances and you shouldnt beat yourself up over it.. folow fizz's advice and have a chat with your boss.. Hg are a franchise and your boss is classed as a partner isnt he - so he wants to keep the good staff so that he gets good sales and a better GP£ for he- so he can see the sense in having you-
mate- dont fall on your sword or live by your principles.. yes its very honourable .. but I left a vry well paid job because of my principles.. felt very noble and slept well that night... but have neverever got back to that kind of income or status again and regret my snap decision on that day ever since..... . . ..
so- think on .. and just have that cht with u boss and let it blow over-
there will be another saga next week that shadows this one. and truth to your boss it prob aint such a big issue- he has many more worries in his head I feel sure.
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