I must subconciously hate myself...

[PsychoCannon]

Been very good on the bike for years, even enrolled in IAM to try to get better.

Being made redundant but got a job interview already on Tuesday.
Get a bit annoyed at work today and I'm going to be working from home all night to fix someone elses screw up so I was a bit p**sed off coming home and egged it a bit...and got pulled over.

First time in 4 years that I've been done, 2nd offence and it's another instant ban for exceeding 100, right before I get made redundant and need to attend a job interview which is actually a step up (pay rise and training) but requires I have my own transport as I will cover 3 offices....

I must be doing this on purpose subconciously or I have the worst luck in the world...
My own fault and there is no excuse for it I just can't belive the timing of it.

Can I plead stress induced insanity?
Will turning upto court in a dress help my case?

[El Saxo]

I don't want to get your hopes up too much, but I know someone who was in a similar situation to yourself - got pulled at just over the ton and figured he was looking at a ban, and had to have his own transport for his job. In the end he only got a 3 week ban, albeit with a very hefty fine. The judge (or is it a magistrate - same difference?) took his need for independent transport into consideration when assessing the case.

Guess it depends on what speed you were doing & previous history etc, but it might not be as bleak as you think.

Oh and good luck with the job interview BTW. :thumbsup:

[PsychoCannon]

Muchos Gracias and I'll keep my toes crossed.

Hopefully the fact that I enrolled myself in IAM BEFORE this incident will work in my favour as it shows I am trying to be a responsable driver.

I'm just worried the previous record will hurt my chances.

err..the fact I hadn't gotten round to putting the new tax disk on (I do have it though) didn't help me either...didn't actually realise it was an offence not to display it as I thought given it was all digital now that it would show up taxed and that would be that so I wasn't in a hurry to buy the tool bit I needed to open up the tax disk holder :(

[hovis]

how much over 100 were you, if you dont mind me asking? as a freind of mine was lett off a ban doing 105mph in a car.

try to get as in writing if you lose your leiacance you will also lose your job

good luck

[Miss Alpinestarhero]

If the worse came to the worse and you got banned from your bike licence, wouldnt you be able to continue your job using a car licence? (thats if you have one)

I dont know if car licence's and bike licence's have seperate points/bans etc though...:confused: out of interest, does anyone know if they do/dont?

Maria

[chazzyb]

Do continue with the IAM (when you can). One of the key skills is observation...;)

[PsychoCannon]

108, I was egging it but not flooring it and that number is the one he gave me, I have no idea what my speedo says as (not that I said this to them) my mind was on work and how my evening just got ruined (little did I know I was about to really spoil it myself)

The car and bike provisions all go on the same licence and its the licence that gets banned not your provision to drive whatever vehicle you were caught in/on so no...and I don't have a car licence lol.

As for the IAM and observation I agree =p
The cop mentioned that if I had been doing proper observations I wouldn't be here because I would of seen him at which point I thought yes....you're right...no need to rub it in though..

[Demonz]

108, I was egging it but not flooring it and that number is the one he gave me, I have no idea what my speedo says as (not that I said this to them) my mind was on work and how my evening just got ruined (little did I know I was about to really spoil it myself)

The car and bike provisions all go on the same licence and its the licence that gets banned not your provision to drive whatever vehicle you were caught in/on so no...and I don't have a car licence lol.

As for the IAM and observation I agree =p
The cop mentioned that if I had been doing proper observations I wouldn't be here because I would of seen him at which point I thought yes....you're right...no need to rub it in though..

Good comeback on his part! Must've heard it all before...

[mac99]

Bad luck mate.

When you say second offence do you mean your previous was also for doing over 100? If so this is probably a bad thing.
If it wasn't then then maybe you'll get away with just a couple of weeks and a fine, if you explain that losing you licence will lose you your job. I've known this happen to friends more than once.

On the plus side, the punishment whatever it is will not kick in until after the court appearance I think. This may be many months away, so you'll still be able to go to your interview and hopefully start your new job. And then deal with the situation when it actually happens.

Or maybe I've got this all wrong, there are more knowledgeable people than me on here to advise.

[andyaikido]

Bad news, Psycho.

I've just enrolled for IAM too, firstly beacause I got banned last year and can't afford the insurance hike of another; secondly, because I got wiped out by a taxi pulling out. Something I'm usually pretty good at spotting but didn't that time, obviously.

Need to learn a bit of restraint and save it for the track. God, I'm starting to sound like an IAM type. :oops:

I'm all for a bit of silliness on a motorbike, but having to explain yourself to a magistrate (who at best won't understand what we do, at worst will hate us) is a very belittling (sp) experience.

[Biker Biggles]

Bad news.
I'd guess that you are looking at a ban if you have "previous" for the same.
As for the job,if it is a requirement that you have a license and you lose that license,I'd guess that you stand to get the sack.:(

[Ch00]

Do you know if this is definitely going to court?

Ch00

[andyaikido]

If you stand to lose your job as a result of a driving ban they tend go down the more points and a BIG fine route instead.

As this might be your second ban though, maybe they won't be as lenient. I take it you are seeking legal advice?

[Ch00]

Get yourself a legal eagle for the day and make sure you turn up in a clean suit and tie or what ever you can muster, Judges like that, shows a bit of effort.

Ch00

[PsychoCannon]

Got banned a few years ago for doing 130 :(

Will start seeking legal advice :(

[thedonal]

Sorry to hear that. I got a ticket in Milton Keynes driving 7mph over the limit- I got a choice of 3 points and £60 or no points, £70 and a speed awareness course.

I had it coming as I'd been let off so many times- once doing 60 in a 40. The cop was 10 mins from the end of a shift and surprisingly reasonable ( I really didn't spot him! That's what he went on about most- "Everyone speeds from time to time, just don't do it next to a police car!")- expected my fair share of condescension, but didn't get it.

Good luck with yours though.

D

[Essex of Essex]

My ex got pulled for 105 on the M5, passed an unmarked car. We took legal advice and a solicitor with us to the magistrates court, her employer made it sound like her whole business would fold if the ex wasn't able to work (I should have kept a copy of that letter it was magic) and we pointed out the mileage she did looking after infirm and elderly parents. The net result was a large fine and no ban, she got pulled for 60 in a 40 some weeks later and pulled it off again, the last time I saw her she had a licence with 15 points on it and still no ban:confused:

The solicitor cost us about £600 each time about 7 years ago, money well spent. Good luck with the magistrates.

[lynw]

If the worse came to the worse and you got banned from your bike licence, wouldnt you be able to continue your job using a car licence? (thats if you have one)

I dont know if car licence's and bike licence's have seperate points/bans etc though...:confused: out of interest, does anyone know if they do/dont?

Maria

You have one licence with different entitlements. Ergo a ban on your licence means no use of any road vehicle legally.

[Baph]

Bad luck fella.


err..the fact I hadn't gotten round to putting the new tax disk on (I do have it though) didn't help me either...didn't actually realise it was an offence not to display it as I thought given it was all digital now that it would show up taxed and that would be that so I wasn't in a hurry to buy the tool bit I needed to open up the tax disk holder :(
I've been saying that repeatedly on the forum for ages, having a tax disc isn't good enough by the letter of the law. Ordinary, nothing more than a stern talking to if you actually have tax.

Personally, my tax disc holder is caked in oil etc from crap thrown off the chain. If they want to see it, they can clean the holder :D


I'm all for a bit of silliness on a motorbike, but having to explain yourself to a magistrate (who at best won't understand what we do, at worst will hate us) is a very belittling (sp) experience.

ASS-U-ME. Please don't :) I know a couple of local magistrates that are bikers. One of whom actually got the book thrown at him (almost literally) for being caught doing 126mph on a public road, idiot :smt018:smt082

Good luck with the case :)

[Tomcat]

I feel for you mate. Good luck. This is a difficult one for you to get your head round, a simple error of judgement, and your life is all change again ...... get a big wig onto it, and let us know how you go one. Hope this helps xxx;)

[PsychoCannon]

Bad luck fella.
Personally, my tax disc holder is caked in oil etc from crap thrown off the chain. If they want to see it, they can clean the holder :D


He did exactly that :rolleyes:
You can't read it otherwise.

I have my tax disk on me in my backpack (Just don't have the right size alan key to open the disc holder) but apparently that isn't good enough and he charged me all the same.

[Baph]

He did exactly that :rolleyes:
You can't read it otherwise.

I have my tax disk on me in my backpack (Just don't have the right size alan key to open the disc holder) but apparently that isn't good enough and he charged me all the same.
In that case he was a :toss:

Most cops (traffic or otherwise) if you can show them that you have tax, but it's not on the bike, wouldn't batter an eyelid. Mainly for reasons of theft.

If you had the tax disc & showed it to him, I'd appeal that one. You demonstrated you had tax, yes, it wasn't on the vehicle so in black & white you were commiting an offence, but jeez, if you can show an officer the disc then surely he couldn't read between the lines because his head is somewhere without the sun!

[Jabba]

Got banned a few years ago for doing 130 :(

Will start seeking legal advice :(

How many years is "a few"?

Thinking "Rehabilitation of Offenders Act" .......

[PsychoCannon]

This would of been 3 or 4 years ago (I'll check my licence when I get home).

It was a 2 month ban and a fine, posted about it on here so I'll see if I can't find out that way =p

And I checked, Luton doesn't "do" driver improvement or whatever they call it in return for reduced points/fine/ban etc.

[PsychoCannon]

Owzat!! the guy that sits opposite me is married to a solicitor who's pointed me at this site:

http://www.pepipoo.com

going to give them (The solicitors not Pepipoo) a call later about representation etc.

[stewie]

Good luck mate, perhaps you could say you were a copper and were testing the limits of the vehicle like the one that got off a second time for doing 150+mph:smt011