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A CSO has been operating with a handheld speed gun yesterday and today on London Road, Burpham just as you come off the sliproad from the A3. Just a warning, it's a 40mph zone btw.
Jelster
27-03-07, 11:45 AM
A CSO has been operating with a handheld speed gun yesterday and today on London Road, Burpham just as you come off the sliproad from the A3. Just a warning, it's a 40mph zone btw.
Are CSO's "allowed" to do this ?
I thought they had almost no real powers other than to advise the public, and advise the police of incidents. Maybe I'm wrong...
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rictus01
27-03-07, 11:50 AM
OK what's a CSO then ?
Are CSO's "allowed" to do this ?
I thought they had almost no real powers other than to advise the public, and advise the police of incidents. Maybe I'm wrong...
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Dunno. Probably has something to do with the Surrey community speedwatch thing. Bright yellow jacket, looks like a copper, can't miss her.
Googled this up.
http://www.surrey.police.uk/area_item.asp?area=1&itemID=8313&division=
PCSO. Police Community Support Officer
spotted some people doing the same in Ockley a few weekends ago
rictus01
27-03-07, 11:58 AM
Dunno. Probably has something to do with the Surrey community speedwatch thing. Bright yellow jacket, looks like a copper, can't miss her.
Googled this up.
http://www.surrey.police.uk/area_item.asp?area=1&itemID=8313&division=
PCSO. Police Community Support Officer
Thanks for that Gary, so they have no power then, it's just a case of making them look like coppers so people hang on the anchors suddenly when they come round a corner, Huuum, that's safe:shock:
Cheers Mark.
I read somewhere that there is a program of locals doing this. All they do is report it to the police and they send you a letter. Cant remember where the details were though.
Thanks for that Gary, so they have no power then, it's just a case of making them look like coppers so people hang on the anchors suddenly when they come round a corner, Huuum, that's safe:shock:
Cheers Mark.
that's about it.
I read somewhere that there is a program of locals doing this. All they do is report it to the police and they send you a letter. Cant remember where the details were though.
from Law's link:
"The volunteers work in pairs at an identified location selected by local communities in consultation with Surrey Police, provided they are within 30 mph and 40 mph limits. They record speeds of motorists in a log and offenders travelling at excess speeds will be identified from the data provided and sent a ‘yellow’ letter of advice which will also ask for their co-operation in the future.
A maximum of two warning letters, along with safety information, will be sent to offenders and if they are caught speeding again, they will be targeted for enforcement by police, where appropriate. The aim, however, is for the presence of the Speedwatch volunteers out on the streets to make drivers think twice about their driving habits and slow down. "
weazelz
27-03-07, 12:16 PM
"... and if they are caught speeding again, they will be targeted for enforcement by police, where appropriate"
that sounds suitably vague & unenforceable in a court of law
the_lone_wolf
27-03-07, 12:36 PM
so slow down, then when you go by get right over close to the kerb and bounce it off the limiter...
if you're really good, drop the clutch and leave a huge black line starting just where they're standing., what are they going to do, jump in their kia and give chase?
:D
They did this last summer in Jacobs Well, on my route to work. My SV made a LOAD of noise at 30mph in first :) I've never seen two old biddies spin round so fast trying to hit me with their laser gun ;)
DanAbnormal
27-03-07, 01:30 PM
Better yet they may pursue on their little mopeds! I actually don't have much of a problem with them doing this. I pretty much stick the the 30', 40's it's mainly the eejit's in corsa's that speed though these zones anyway and they should be caught.
Better yet they may pursue on their little mopeds! I actually don't have much of a problem with them doing this. I pretty much stick the the 30', 40's it's mainly the eejit's in corsa's that speed though these zones anyway and they should be caught.
i totally agree with you
Samnooshka
27-03-07, 02:04 PM
They did this last summer in Jacobs Well, on my route to work. My SV made a LOAD of noise at 30mph in first :) I've never seen two old biddies spin round so fast trying to hit me with their laser gun ;)
oh yeah forgot about that hehehe no doubt they'll be out there again this year... i just storm through at 30 mph and wave :rolleyes::rolleyes: stupid busy bodies with nothing else to do with their retirement.... if they're ok enough to stand on corners they're well enough to go back to work :p
Jelster
27-03-07, 02:18 PM
PCSO's aren't "old ladies" with HiFi jackets, they're actually part of the police service, just not allowed to enforce the law. As I said, they are there to advise in either direction, pass on information, report things.
If I had 2 letters I'd ask for proof that I was actually there.
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erm, this isn't an old lady. I just guessed it was a speed watch scheme.
The facts are there is a PCSO standing by the side of the road.
Would someone like to speed past and check if they get a warning or points.
You wouldn't get points. There shouldn't be PCSOs using any form of speed detection equipment by the side of the road as this is totally outside of there remit.
Ch00
You wouldn't get points. There shouldn't be PCSOs using any form of speed detection equipment by the side of the road as this is totally outside of there remit.
Ch00
I walked past her today, said 'hello'. She smiled and said 'hello' back. I checked her out, back of her fluorescent jacket does say Community Support Officer, she's holding a speed gun, it's plastic carrier case on the floor, and there was a clipboard next to her.
Survey of some sort, maybe?? I didn't want to ask.
Next time, run really fast towards her, then stop next to her all out of breath and gasp "Well? How fast was that then?" :D :D
I walked past her today, said 'hello'. She smiled and said 'hello' back. I checked her out
Good man! :drink:
Sorry folks :oops: Carry on...
DanAbnormal
28-03-07, 08:23 PM
Next time, run really fast towards her, then stop next to her all out of breath and gasp "Well? How fast was that then?" :D :D
ROFL!!:smt023
Being a parent of a young child and living on a dead straight 30mph road that is full of chav'd up nova's doing 90 anything to slow them down a bit is fine by me.
However sticking a camera van on the a339 is allthogether another issue. No houses, great visibility, great big left hander and more often than not a van parked on the apex. Question is if you're riding towards them and they take a pic of the front of your bike doing a slightly excessive speed, are they likely to put down their lad-mag (or knitting if CSO) and cup of tea then write down your reg as you go past or are you going to get away with it?
DanAbnormal
28-03-07, 09:41 PM
However sticking a camera van on the a339 is allthogether another issue. No houses, great visibility, great big left hander and more often than not a van parked on the apex. Question is if you're riding towards them and they take a pic of the front of your bike doing a slightly excessive speed, are they likely to put down their lad-mag (or knitting if CSO) and cup of tea then write down your reg as you go past or are you going to get away with it?
Yet more proof mate that they really don't give two hoots about safety, they just want to make a quick buck at our expense. One thing to note though is that sometimes those camera vans are situated but can radio a group of pursuit bikes up ahead to pull you in as you speed past teh van thinking you are safe. Happened to me and a friend on a totally clear dual carridgeway. Luckily though we spotted it and managed to get our speeds down to sub 70 byt the time we were 'in range' of the van so they had no comeback even though we were going a little bit quick beforehand.
Filipe M.
29-03-07, 12:50 PM
I walked past her today, said 'hello'. She smiled and said 'hello' back. I checked her out, she's holding a gun, it's plastic carrier case on the floor, and there was a clip of ammo next to her.
Sniper of some sort, maybe?? I didn't want to ask her out, I'm too shy.
:-s
I walked past her today, said 'hello'. She smiled and said 'hello' back. I checked her out, she's holding a gun, it's plastic carrier case on the floor, and there was a clip of ammo next to her.
Sniper of some sort, maybe?? I didn't want to ask her out, I'm too shy.
:-s
:smt068
Hello Tomcat!
*checks out Tomcat and walks off*
Damn it, why am I so shy?!
:oops: ;) :lol:
Hello Tomcat!
*checks out Tomcat and walks off*
Damn it, why am I so shy?!
:oops: ;) :lol:
Is it cos I iz tooled up ?
:smt079 :smt066 :smt065 :smt070
:rambo:
DanAbnormal
29-03-07, 05:57 PM
You lot scare me....
You lot scare me....
Ditto :(
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