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rubberduckofdeath
30-03-07, 01:29 PM
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Filipe M.
30-03-07, 01:31 PM
What should I paint the inner walls and floor with?
Wall paint and floor paint, respectively.
:lol: this is the Idle Banter, what were you expecting?! sound advice?! :lol:
Filipe M.
30-03-07, 01:34 PM
I'd think you'd have to apply some plaster to the bricks first (smooth surface to paint, waterproofing, etc), and then paint over that, but I'm really no expert on the subject so can't recommend anything specific. As for the floor, I'll be waiting on other's opinions too...
you'll need to seal the brick and plaster before you can paint onto it otherwise you'll be applying paint for the rest of your days. its blinking expensive too! compared to run of the mill paint anyhoo
i have nothing helpful to add other than congratulations on being a homeowner.
chazzyb
30-03-07, 01:41 PM
Bare bricks? I'd use cheap trade white emulsion and resign myself to having to do it twice because of the absorbtion. Floor? Floor paint. Seriously.
When's the party then?:drink:
Sid Squid
30-03-07, 01:42 PM
For the walls, if they're firm then masonry paint, if they have a loose surface then either stabilising solution or a mix or water and PVA first, then paint, or varnish. For the floor there is specific floor paint available.
Fizzy Fish
30-03-07, 01:42 PM
Congrats on the new house btw! :D
are you still in Guildford?
fizzwheel
30-03-07, 01:53 PM
you'll need to seal the brick and plaster before you can paint onto it otherwise you'll be applying paint for the rest of your days. its blinking expensive too! compared to run of the mill paint anyhoo
He's right you know. If you dont seal it the damp will come through and it'll bubble the paint off and then it'll look rubbish.
You could try some Unibond, if you water it down and then paint the bricks and the floor with it, it oughta seal it, My builder dad did this with his garage floor years ago and its been fine.
If you havent got a dampcourse or a membrane under the concrete of your garage floor doesnt matter what you do the damp will come through eventually though.
Gazza77
30-03-07, 01:55 PM
Currently, I'm planning on:
- Painting the walls
- Painting the floor
Why?! :confused:
Excellent thread! I am moving next Wednesday and was wondering how to do exactly what you had asked. I was just going to emulsion the walls (£8.99 for 10 litres in Homebase) and then some proper floor paint for, errr, the floor!
Whats this Unibond stuff you are talking about Fizz? Is it like Thomsons Waterseal?? :???:
Gazza77
30-03-07, 02:01 PM
Tidy and clean doesn't mean you have to paint it! ;)
Congrats on the purchase btw, hope you're happy there!
My builder dad did this with his garage floor years ago and its been fine.
thats ace!! having a different Dad for different jobs. what an excellent idea!!
fizzwheel
30-03-07, 02:11 PM
Whats this Unibond stuff you are talking about Fizz? Is it like Thomsons Waterseal?? :???:
Not really. Sid refered to it above as "PVA" its more of an Adhesive / Sealant than a water repellent, which is what the Thomsons is.
Oh and it smells like the glue they used to give to use at school as well :D
fizzwheel
30-03-07, 02:13 PM
thats ace!! having a different Dad for different jobs. what an excellent idea!!
:D He's multi functional to. He can morph into
Mechanic Dad
Plumbing Dad
Electrician Dad
Roof Mender Dad
Motorcycling advice Dad
He meets all my dadly requirements :cool:
Filipe M.
30-03-07, 02:13 PM
Oh and it smells like the glue they used to give to use at school as well :D
:smt120 woohoo!
Gazza77
30-03-07, 02:15 PM
:D He's multi functional to. He can morph into
Mechanic Dad
Plumbing Dad
Electrician Dad
Roof Mender Dad
Motorcycling advice Dad
He meets all my dadly requirements :cool:
Is he good at them all though? Or are some jobs done dadly badly? :rolleyes:
thats ace!! having a different Dad for different jobs. what an excellent idea!!
Bah beat me too it Keith, congrats on getting there first!
Congrats also Mr Lee, May I suggest some old carpet for the floor, give the bike some carpet to sleep on ;)
chazzyb
30-03-07, 02:22 PM
Tidy and clean doesn't mean you have to paint it! ;)
White walls will make it soooo much brighter. Sealed floor helps stop concrete dust, spills can be wiped/mopped. You know it makes sense. It's a major contribution to road safety. :scratch:
Luckypants
30-03-07, 02:23 PM
You will only need to consider sealing the walls if they are single skin. If they are only single skin, wait until August / September to allow them to be completely dry before using a water sealer on the exterior to prevent water ingress through the bricks.
You could use 'bathroom and kitchen' white emulsion on the inside as this is damp tolerant. Water it down (emulsion uses water) and spray on with a paint sprayer (from hire shop) and do 3 or 4 coats. Lots easier than having to stipple into all the cracks with the brush.
Do the floor after spraying walls. give a good wash / degrease and allow to dry for about a week. Apply a concrete sealer (PVA watered down 4-1 will work) then get proper garage floor paint and apply using a long handled roller (saves yer back). Two coats should do it, but apply second before the first has 'gone off' completely so it bonds correctly.
HTH
(I am a Dad......... )
fizzwheel
30-03-07, 02:24 PM
So, could I use this Thompson's water seal with paint over the top?
No on the floor no, as its not meant for floors and it wouldnt stop the water penetrating the concrete from underneath, it would stop water penetrating the concrete from above though.
If you painted it onto the bricks on the outside of the garage rather than the inside it should stop the water soaking through the bricks though, especially useful if its only a single skin garage which most of them tend to be.
I feel the need to join in because we are picking up my new garage tomorrow. Well, new to me! Pepple dashed thingy, sectional and all that! Got loadsa work to do now in my garden to fit it in, and patio ..... tis all good! 16ft x 9ft ...... nice!
Better still, I am surplus to requirements tomorrow, so I get to ride my bike whilst big strong men do the garage stuff for me ........ yay!
:p
I did my garage floor a few years back, bought a big tin of concrete sealant stuff & garage floor paint from B&Q. Still looking good now (a nice shade of battleship grey but they did other colours)
2 coats of paint after the sealant, letting it dry thoroughly after applying the sealant/paint. Managed to do mine over a warmish weekend, fairly back breaking stuff for me, specially the first coat of paint (the second coat goes down much easier though).
Well I am all moved in now and have painted the garage (much to Mrs Skips disgust!) It was totally empty during the whole exercise which was handy! Swept the floor very carefully with a soft broom and applied one coat of white emulsion to the walls - each "section" took me over an hour as the walls just sucked up the paint! Took 12 litres in all to cover all the walls, made a huge difference to the light inside (no power in there at the moment) Then used the Henry vacuum to carefully collect as much dust as possible from the floor before applying the first coat of floor paint (mixed with white spirit in a 70/30 mix of paint to white spirit) to seal the floor. Left this for 24 hours and then applied the paint as it came out of the tin - the results are superb! :D Only trouble is we are waiting for our spare room carpet to be fitted so the entire contents are still in the garage! But you get the idea!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/skip665/garage/start.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/skip665/garage/during.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/skip665/garage/nearly.jpg
Is it 2-step garage, US garage or Speed garage?
:rave:
wyrdness
17-04-07, 10:41 AM
Oh and it smells like the glue they used to give to use at school as well :D
That's because it's basically the same stuff - PVA.
What is the door like ?
If its an up and over would highly reccomend a garage defender.
What is the door like ?
If its an up and over would highly reccomend a garage defender.
One of these?
http://www.saundersonsecurity.co.uk/acatalog/info%5fPJB302%2ehtml
I have been thinking about what to do security wise.... :-k
But then I also subscribe to - if its good enough to secure then its good enough to nick....!
One of these?
http://www.saundersonsecurity.co.uk/acatalog/info%5fPJB302%2ehtml
I have been thinking about what to do security wise.... :-k
But then I also subscribe to - if its good enough to secure then its good enough to nick....!
Yes, thats actually identical to mine.
About 3 years ago there was a big crimewave on our estate.
My nextdoor neighbour (we have semi detached garages) had all his powertools and his golf clubs nicked out his garage. Pretty much every garage and shed on the estate was done. Mine wasn't touched.
I also had 1981 Fantic trials bike in my garage at the time which would have made a lovely field bike for some thieving scumbag.
It would be well known that it was in there as I was constantly in there working on it.
UP and over doors on their own are comedically easy to break into.
Jelster
17-04-07, 03:11 PM
Yes, thats actually identical to mine.
About 3 years ago there was a big crimewave on our estate.
My nextdoor neighbour (we have semi detached garages) had all his powertools and his golf clubs nicked out his garage. Pretty much every garage and shed on the estate was done. Mine wasn't touched.
UP and over doors on their own are comedically easy to break into.
My mate has two of those on his garage, makes me wonder about doing something with mine....
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kwak zzr
17-04-07, 03:14 PM
mines got pegs on the inside that go into the frame, you push these in and leave the garage by the side door.
Yes, thats actually identical to mine.
About 3 years ago there was a big crimewave on our estate.
My nextdoor neighbour (we have semi detached garages) had all his powertools and his golf clubs nicked out his garage. Pretty much every garage and shed on the estate was done. Mine wasn't touched.
I also had 1981 Fantic trials bike in my garage at the time which would have made a lovely field bike for some thieving scumbag.
It would be well known that it was in there as I was constantly in there working on it.
UP and over doors on their own are comedically easy to break into.
How are they secured to the ground - just bolts into heavy duty rawlplugs?
How are they secured to the ground - just bolts into heavy duty rawlplugs?
Dirty great butterfly (?) bolts. I think they're similar to what you use with a ground anchor. I had to drill the holes about 9" deep.
The bolt tops are completely inaccessible when the thing is in place.
I must have missed this first time round. You must have sorted that solicitor then!
Our neighbour has painted the inside of his garage but I think that it's simply making work - he did his 2 years ago and although it's only 10 years old the damp is coming through and it looks like it needs doing again, the white paint is going brown. Personally I wouldn't bother doing any painting, but if you're working on the bike a few old rugs will insulate your ass from the cold floor. If you have leccy in the garage then you can leave a low wattage greenhouse heater on to keep it dry. Don't forget to insulate the roof and doors and to seal up around the frame to keep the heat in.
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