getting pulled by the feds

[malks]

hello, i'm quite new here.

but today out for a blast stirling, lochearn head, comrie, creiff, back to stirling and then home. got pulled just after comrie by a panda car. saying they were out pulling everything over if they suspected dark visors loud cans number plates etc.....

i got £30 fixed notice for a tinted visor. just a wee word of warning to anyone heading out that way.

malks

[on yer bike]

They were litterally pulling everyone over.. I got pulled 2 in cupar just at the police staion 200 yards before cupar motorcycles. and also spoke to others that were all also pulled over when I got to the bike shop. they just wanted to check that my bike was taxed and not stolen, they didn't really bother about my tinted visor or my can (although they are both road legal, you cant really tell without checking the e marks).

[peterco]

i got £30 fixed notice for a tinted visor. just a wee word of warning to anyone heading out that way.

malks

According to ACPO guidelines......
Common sense on dark visors...The stategy says If used durring daylight hours, advise only. If used during the hours of darkness or conditions of reduced visibillity then consider prosecution.

It's a bummer to get fined.

pete

[Quedos]

thankfully we managed to avoid them all day!

[on yer bike]

According to ACPO guidelines......
Common sense on dark visors...The stategy says If used durring daylight hours, advise only. If used during the hours of darkness or conditions of reduced visibillity then consider prosecution.

It's a bummer to get fined.

pete

That strategy (according to this weeks MCN *not that I read such garbage*) is for England Ireland and Wales only, in Scotland it is all in the officer's discretion.

[thebluelion]

The peelers don't bother us over here about visors as peterco says common sense should prevail and as for number plates they do pull some people over but they have to be really small

[suicidesam]

Tail end of last year i had a plod wander over to speak to me in a car park, wanted to bust me for my tinted visor.. was really annoyed when i pointed out the stamp of approval on the side of it :smt016
Not bothered getting one for my new helmet.. just bought a comfy pair of sun glasses instead.

[jimmy4237]

I was up that neck of the woods the day. Other lads at Cupar said they were getting pulled for vehicle checks. By the time I got there they were gone. Some guys said they got a fine for small plates. Loud cans were getting attention too...

Welcome to start of the Nazi police state summer blitz folks..it's only gonna get worse. Stay away from the west coast (Oban, Loch Lomond,Tyndrum, etc) as they'll be up there in force every Saturday and Sunday this summertime. Expect the money grabbing speed camera vans, mobile bikers, marked and unmarked patrol cars and plenty of stop checks. They've got to spend the taxpayers money somehow.

If you're gonna wear a dark visor (not naming names here for obvious reasons) then carry a clear one so you can argue your corner with the coppers. It's a safety aid for bright sunshine - car drivers use sunglasses for the same reason. Dark visors are just the same idea only safer for a biker. To hell with what the cops say. They're just out to ruin your day.

[jimmy4237]

I was up that neck of the woods the day. Other lads at Cupar said they were getting pulled for vehicle checks. By the time I got there they were gone. Some guys said they got a fine for small plates. Loud cans were getting attention too...

Welcome to start of the Nazi police state summer blitz folks..it's only gonna get worse. Stay away from the west coast (Oban, Loch Lomond,Tyndrum, etc) as they'll be up there in force every Saturday and Sunday this summertime. Expect the money grabbing speed camera vans, mobile bikers, marked and unmarked patrol cars and plenty of stop checks. They've got to spend the taxpayers money somehow.

If you're gonna wear a dark visor (not naming names here for obvious reasons) then carry a clear one so you can argue your corner with the coppers. It's a safety aid for bright sunshine - car drivers use sunglasses for the same reason. Dark visors are just the same idea only safer for a biker. To hell with what the cops say. They're just out to ruin your day.

[Tiger 55]

How depressing is this thread? Me and Mrs Tiger were burgled a few years back and the cops were there mob handed in minutes. Huckled one at the scene and caught up with other after a bit of your actual detetctive work!

Been a champion of the overworked under-resourced polis ever since but things like this make it hard.

[stuartyboy]

It's a safety aid for bright sunshine - car drivers use sunglasses for the same reason. Dark visors are just the same idea only safer for a biker.

Personally...I don't think they're safer. To me they make things too dark at times - they make bright things darker but they also make the mid and dark things even darker.

I have a street legal reactolite(?) insert in my lid and it's the bees knees.

Shame about the £30 fixed penalty mate. :(

[northwind]

I've never found a reactive one that actually works well enough for winter riding with the low sun right in your face... Actually had to stop at the roadside once when riding into the sun, a dark visor would have been fine but my light eractive just left me almost blind. I always carry both though, getting caught out with only a dark visor is horrible- I once stupidly left my clear/reactive one at home, and had to ride home in the dark with my visor up.

At the end of the day, the police are only enforcing the law, as ridiculous as it is... This is why I've never joined the MAG or BMF. Some'd say it's why we should, but frankly it proves what a complete waste of time they are, that the dark visor law's still on the books as it is.

Still, I've somehow never had more than a ticking off for my loud can, small plate, and very black visor, so I can't really complain ;)

[Johnny_BoomBoom]

I just picked up an iridium totally legal E maked an all visor for my AGV....


Sorry to hear about your fixed penalty....I would like to thinkour overworked police force have better things to do with their time!!!

My car was written off 5 years ago by another driver in an untraceable car....go figure, I got the reg and everything.....but the attitude seemed to be 'you're insured'! But they have time for this......???? Disappointing!:(

[Quedos]

I was up that neck of the woods the day. Other lads at Cupar said they were getting pulled for vehicle checks. By the time I got there they were gone. Some guys said they got a fine for small plates. Loud cans were getting attention too...

Welcome to start of the Nazi police state summer blitz folks..it's only gonna get worse. Stay away from the west coast (Oban, Loch Lomond,Tyndrum, etc) as they'll be up there in force every Saturday and Sunday this summertime. Expect the money grabbing speed camera vans, mobile bikers, marked and unmarked patrol cars and plenty of stop checks. They've got to spend the taxpayers money somehow.

If you're gonna wear a dark visor (not naming names here for obvious reasons) then carry a clear one so you can argue your corner with the coppers. It's a safety aid for bright sunshine - car drivers use sunglasses for the same reason. Dark visors are just the same idea only safer for a biker. To hell with what the cops say. They're just out to ruin your day.

Well no point taxing and insuring my bike then is there.:smt106 If there gonna be on all the good roads no point going out cos they only pull me cos i'm on two wheels!!

hang on - why don't just stay in the law that may help!!!!:smt066 :smt045

(only joking jimmy - to me if you don't break the law then you should be fine!)

[-Ralph-]

I love my flip down sun visor Top Gun style on my Caberg V2. So much easier than stopping to change sunglasses or visors. It's the only reason I don't replace an otherwise crap helmet (although it does have nice removeable dupont linings), but vents, noise, etc are crap. I've fitted a helmet skirt to make it a bit more liveable and until I've got the money for a Shuberth with a similar sun visor system I'm just gonna keep it.

Anyone know of any other helmets that've got one that are not as expensive as the Shuberth? They make life so easy other manufacturers must be catching onto it.

I really can't see the difference legally though between a tinted visor, what I've got and sunglasses. The copper who gave you the fine is a ****! I once had aspirations of being a copper, just so there would be another decent fair one in the world who only punished criminals. Not sure I'd stay in the job long though......

[malks]

nope it wasnt the traffic devision out to do people, they informed me they were just standard beat officers being told to pull people over for things like visors cans etc. they were ok to me, i knew i had done wrong so didnt get arsey with them.

but the thing that really annoys me about the fine is this, my visor is illegal, but a darker pair of sunglasses under a clear visor isnt? even though they could be darker or interupt my line of vision more? but my biggest point in this arguement is if its such a dangerous thing to do, then why do they only fine you??? surely if it was such aan offence it would warrant points??

i did stop in the next lay-by and warn some other bikers of what lay ahead, they said they were just going to turn around to save any bother. i felt obliged.

[peterco]

Anyone know of any other helmets that've got one that are not as expensive as the Shuberth? They make life so easy other manufacturers must be catching onto it.

Caberg Justissimo
Caberg Trip
Caberg V2
X-Lite X1002 Elegance VPS
Airho SV55
http://www.customlids.co.uk/images/brand_logos/schuberth_small.jpg S1
Nolan N102 CLASSIC n-com

Just a few I have come across

pete
Don't know why turned out like that.

[Blue Flame]

I love my flip down sun visor Top Gun style on my Caberg V2. So much easier than stopping to change sunglasses or visors. It's the only reason I don't replace an otherwise crap helmet (although it does have nice removeable dupont linings), but vents, noise, etc are crap. I've fitted a helmet skirt to make it a bit more liveable and until I've got the money for a Shuberth with a similar sun visor system I'm just gonna keep it.


I've got that one too (my second one after the first one bounced along the road with me inside it ;) ). I think it is really convenient on cloudy/sunny variable days to simply flip it up and down as required. Got the mirrored insert for it as well :cool:

I don't have any issues with the vents, noise etc. but maybe that's just me cos the one i had before that was even cheaper.

Quite fancy going for the 'V2 Trip' next for those quick fag breaks.

[independentphoto]

I've not tried one personally, but the Trip is apparently pretty comfy. I thought it looked smart but stops quite high on the neck. I poked and prodded the Schuberth C1 the other day and it's VERY smooth in its flip action. Reputed to be very quiet too (BMW have them rebadged) and cheaper than a lot of big name standard helmets. It's really light too.


Curiously, I've just been pulled in the cage tonight on the way home - "to make sure everything was alright". I was doing 50 in a 50 (including through roundabouts) etc - making good progress under clear conditions with good visibility. Reckon they thought it might have been a boy racer or whatever (in a bog standard diesel?). Thanks for your concern:rolleyes:

Garry:D

[-Ralph-]

Curiously, I've just been pulled in the cage tonight on the way home - "to make sure everything was alright". I was doing 50 in a 50 (including through roundabouts) etc - making good progress under clear conditions with good visibility. Reckon they thought it might have been a boy racer or whatever (in a bog standard diesel?). Thanks for your concern:rolleyes:

Garry:D

Wondered what you had to hide 'cos you were driving bang on the speed limit! :rolleyes: Makes perfect sense doesn't it? :confused: