Is my '01 curvy a Y or a K1?

[Tim in Belgium]

Is there any way of telling from the chassis number if my '01 curvy is a Y or a K1? As just having it MOTd and the garage need to input this data (it's a personal import that I've brought back from Europe and needs Mot ing before I can register it).

Thanks,

Tim

[Jelster]

Wheels I think, Y's had silver, K1's had black (but I may be wrong...)

Here's my old K1

http://www.urbanbiker.co.uk/galleries/images/steve/akra1.jpg

With black wheels....

.

[petevtwin650]

No, the early SV's had the nice black wheels, later ones had the silver. Don't know what model year they changed though.

[petevtwin650]

According to Haynes, american frame numbers have a Y just before the number for model year Y and a 1 for model year K1. May be the same for a foriegn import.

[northwind]

It gets fiddly though, frinstance Jelster's one's got the machining on the fork legs for an '00, not an '01, but that's just down to when they cleared the old stocks as much as anything else. You can also find K4s with the K5 gear selectors in, stuff like that, and wheels can be replaced. Frame number and major changes like frame or engine colour are good indicators, I just can't remember which year is which colour just now :rolleyes: I thought K1s had the silvery/light grey cases though I can't be sure.

[Jelster]

They used the same black all the way through the curvey's though. 3 different blues, 2 yellows, 2 reds (but none officially in the UK) and only 1 silver (I think)

.

[Filipe M.]

No, the early SV's had the nice black wheels, later ones had the silver. Don't know what model year they changed though.

Erm, mine's a '99 with silver wheels... :-k Portuguese market, though.

[Jelster]

At the end of the day, look at your V5, that will give the information (or should do)

[Tim in Belgium]

I'll check the Belgian docs tonight, hopefully that will answer my question, was just wondering if there was a quick way so the garage could get on but obviously there's no 100% sure answer.

Silver wheels and silver/grey engine with some darker grey/black covers.

Thanks for the input anyway.

[northwind]

Yeah, I reckon that's a K1 then. Look at the right hand fork, and see if it has 2 pinch bolts in the bottom or 1. Not at all conclusive since I think loads of K1s have 2 bolts, but it's very unlikely that any Ys have only one, unless it's been swapped.

[Filipe M.]

http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/4697/boltsyk5.jpg

These bolts?
:-k

[northwind]

That's them.

[Tim in Belgium]

Had a look at the Haynes manual and it seems the chassis number is just before the UK K1, however checking the org main site it seems the K1 made the change to silver wheels and engines. There is no mention on the original registration document, and the bike is 50 miles away in a garage so I can't see the forks anyway! Going to go with K1, it was registered edge of march '01 so probably just on the edge.

Cheers for the help.

Edit: Just zoomed in on a photo and one bolt at the front on the rh (from riders view) fork. so K1 it is going to be.

[Jussi]

Did not quite get the bolt thing. so if there is 2 bolts it is K1 or newer if only one it`s Y ??

did i got it right.
Mine has also black wheels and engine she was taken in to use 2002, but i think she is 2001 model after all.

[northwind]

Did not quite get the bolt thing. so if there is 2 bolts it is K1 or newer if only one it`s Y ??


Nah, if it's got 2 bolts it's the later revision of the forks, which started at some point during the K1s but I don't know for sure that they all got it. It's not an advertised change so the dividing line probably isn't so clearcut.

(edit. This is ****. Completely the wrong way round. Confused myself :) )

[Tim in Belgium]

Got a reply from Suzuki belgium wrt the chassis number, and they said it's a belgian homlogated model (no surprise therethen), which doesn't seem to fit into the UK model scheme of things, so I've decided that it's a K1 for paper work requirements!

[Stig]

Is anyone confused yet :?: Cause I am :lol:

[petevtwin650]

Nah, if it's got 2 bolts it's the later revision of the forks, which started at some point during the K1s but I don't know for sure that they all got it. It's not an advertised change so the dividing line probably isn't so clearcut.

Sorry Northwind, but I beg to differ. The early SV's had the two bolts at the bottom of the right fork. Checked Alphasports fiches.

Still, wheels or forks aren't conclusive as they would be the first things to be replaced after most accidents.

[Stig]

Sorry Northwind, but I beg to differ. The early SV's had the two bolts at the bottom of the right fork. Checked Alphasports fiches.

Still, wheels or forks aren't conclusive as they would be the first things to be replaced after most accidents.

Mine's an 03 registered K1 and it has one pinch bolt.

[northwind]

Sorry Northwind, but I beg to differ.

Ah, but I covered all my bases and contradicted myself in the space of one thread :) You're absolutely right, and so was I earlier on... Just a mistype in teh last one (I was telling Jussi he was wrong while saying the exact same thing as he was!)

Good catch ;)

[BigBaddad]

Hi,

Just bought a 2001 SV 650 S-Y. It's saturn black with dark grey/blackish wheels. It says SY on the reg document.

Cheers.

[Filipe M.]

And there was me thinking the same, my above photo is from a '99 model and it has the two pinch bolts, so the ones with only one bolt are the latest revisions then?

[Alpinestarhero]

No, the early SV's had the nice black wheels, later ones had the silver. Don't know what model year they changed though.

My '99 has silver wheels

Matt

[petevtwin650]

My '99 has silver wheels

Matt

Like I said earlier Matt, wheels and forks may have been changed. Mostly through accident damage. Has yours got the black engine?

And yes Filipe,later forks have the single bolt.

[hovis]

Is anyone confused yet :?: Cause I am :lol:yes

mines a 99 sx with 2 nuts & silver wheels

[Tim in Belgium]

Well my bike has passed its first MOT ever, there was no equivalent in Belgium so quite pleased as thought something might appear. I'll wear down the last 1.1mm of tread (just legal) this weekend.

[Jussi]

My frame number starts with JS1AV111300100xxx i have not been able to trace the model year. Date she was taken in to the service was 02.01.2002 (odd day in Finland)
Cheers

[Tim in Belgium]

Try emailing Suzuki Finland, they should be able to answer if you really care!

[Sid Squid]

...so the ones with only one bolt are the latest revisions then?
Yes. The early bikes, the 'X' and 'Y' models had two pinch bolts, later bikes went with only one, although as Northy quite rightly points out, it's very likely that the difference isn't perfectly clear cut, as essentially the same forks are fitted to all of them, it's quite likely that any remaining stocks of early parts would have been used on early 'K' bikes, or possibly that some later 'Y's had what we might think of as 'K' parts.
Also, as mentioned earlier, these are the parts that are the most likely to be replaced should an accident occur, as such they shouldn't be considered absolute when assessing which exact model any given bike is.

[Alpinestarhero]

Like I said earlier Matt, wheels and forks may have been changed. Mostly through accident damage. Has yours got the black engine?

And yes Filipe,later forks have the single bolt.

Yea...it has...

...so my bike could have been binned in the past? :(

Matt

[northwind]

Perhaps it has... Does it matter as long as it was fixed? :) Mine was mangled at one point early in it's life, it got basically a whole new side, doesn't bother me as it was fixed- actually means a load of parts down the rhs are newer than the left

[Warren]

do you guys not have a sticker with the model number and paint codes on the frame somewhere ? or is it a honda thing ?

[petevtwin650]

Yea...it has...

...so my bike could have been binned in the past? :(

Matt

Matt, I think you're being a bit naive. :p

Your bike is, what, 8 years old? Possibly 4 previous owners, potentially all newly qualified inexperienced riders. Look at the number of spills reported on this site alone.

All you can hope that, if it has been binned, it was rebuilt by an insurance company. At least it would have been done to a high standard.

I've had two Svs, both of which I can confidently say haven't been crashed, although my faith may be misguided. The only 100% way to be sure is to have owned it from new.