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DaBlackKnight
08-05-07, 08:34 AM
Arygll & Bute Police Targeting Bikers Season...
anyone heard anything about this at all?
Parents said to me that the police are intending to set up road check points all over the Argyll & Bute area to "TARGET" bikers...and only bikers...
The aims are to cut down the very high rate of biker deaths on the roads of Argyll & Bute...
Supposedly Argyll & Bute has one of the highest death rates for bikers in the country?!
(I find these "figures" very interesting cause i work out of Dunoon Hospital and have not come across ANY biker fatalities/accidents in the last 3 years between Dunoon and Lochgilphead)
Anyways...
expect to be pulled over and treated like a criminal when they do pull you up...
and watch the police ignore the many boy racers with their excessive petruding exhausts and bald tyres go un-challenged...
peterco
08-05-07, 09:16 AM
There was an article on Scotland Today yesterday,they where pulling in bikers for roadside checks etc.
http://www.stv.tv/content/news/main/display.html?id=opencms:/news/Police_crack_down_on_speeding_bikers
pete
peterco
08-05-07, 09:31 AM
Have come across this,
Police Warn Bikers
http://www.strathclyde.police.uk/uploadedfiles/Latest%20News/traffic_car_merc_large.jpgRoad policing officers have teamed up with local officers in Argyll and Bute to warn bikers of the consequences of riding carelessly.
Motorcycling is a very popular leisure pursuit - Argyllshire, with it's long winding roads and stunning scenery, is a bikers paradise. It provides enjoyment for many people as well as having the potential to be both financially economical and an environmentally friendly mode of transport.
However, motorcyclists continue to represent a large number of road casualties. From 2004 - 2006, 15 people (55.6%) were killed in bike crashes in the Argyllshire area alone.
In an effort to reduce the number of deaths and casualties, high visibility patrols have been out in force during the holiday weekend cracking down on bikers who flout the law.
Bikers who fail to maintain a safe distance from other drivers, overtake improperly or have loud exhausts have been targeted as this behaviour impacts on the quality of life, not just for residents but visitors to the Argyllshire area.
Speaking of this latest road policing campaign; Chief Inspector Jim Igoe, Strathclyde Police Road Policing Department, said:
"There is no excuse for those who ride carelessly or exceed the speed limit and who cause nuisance and annoyance to other people.
"Under Anti-Social Behaviour Order (ASBO) legislation those caught speeding or distressing members of the public will face a formal written warning, which is recorded for 12 months. Should the driver commit a similar offence within the 12 month period their bike will be confiscated and they will be reported to the Procurator Fiscal.
"Bikes being used without insurance or driving licence will be seized by my officers. These measures may sound harsh but a balance must be struck to allow local people and visitors to enjoy the peace and quiet of the area as much as the bikers."
He added:
"I must stress the majority of bikers are content to visit the Argyllshire area and enjoy their motorcycling experience. We aim to target the minority who are intent in exceeding the speed limit, riding carelessly and making a nuisance of themselves.
"Bikers and motorists alike should bear in mind that my officers provide high visibility and unmarked patrols on the roads 24/7 and will enforce the law to ensure safer roads in Argyll and Bute."
pete
STRAMASHER
08-05-07, 11:28 AM
Arygll & Bute Police Targeting Bikers Season...
anyone heard anything about this at all?
Parents said to me that the police are intending to set up road check points all over the Argyll & Bute area to "TARGET" bikers...and only bikers...
The aims are to cut down the very high rate of biker deaths on the roads of Argyll & Bute...
Supposedly Argyll & Bute has one of the highest death rates for bikers in the country?!
(I find these "figures" very interesting cause i work out of Dunoon Hospital and have not come across ANY biker fatalities/accidents in the last 3 years between Dunoon and Lochgilphead)
Anyways...
expect to be pulled over and treated like a criminal when they do pull you up...
and watch the police ignore the many boy racers with their excessive petruding exhausts and bald tyres go un-challenged...
They have already started at the weekend there. Every bike herded and inspected ,fines dished out for pipes and plates. Also heard of a "noise-up" from an unmarked car goading a bike to break speed limit. Sitting a few feet off their tail at 60mph on the lochside road. Smart.
Its a purge. Same every year. Feck'em. Don't let the bastids grind you down.](*,)
Be lucky:smt091 :-(
northwind
08-05-07, 11:30 AM
That article on the news was erally funny... They were saying about how they were going to stop dangerous speeding, but it was ****ing with rain and the only bikes they could find were being ridden at 30mph by old men with beards :) But they still showed them writing tickets, and clearly not for speeing under the circumstances.
I've no problem with genuine speeding initiatives, but this ain't one.
The Basket
08-05-07, 11:39 AM
they may have booked them for having beards and that seems fair to me. And owning a Harley surely is a crime there.
Don't want to give my Englishness away but where is Argyll and Bute?
More statistics!!??
OK so 15 bikers or 55% over 04-06
No mention of the cause of the accident or responsibilities.
So John Do could have been wiped out by a speeding car while on his own side of the road riding within the limit appropriate to the road condition (to use the jargon)
I never put much faith in statistics, as my old lecturer used to say, they can tell you anything presented in the right way.
Rant over, back to work :p
Tiger 55
08-05-07, 12:12 PM
where is Argyll and Bute?
It's the lumpy bit of Scotland up and left from Glasgow :)
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r161/tigerboz55/aandbinukmap.gif
DaBlackKnight
08-05-07, 01:05 PM
From 2004 - 2006, 15 people (55.6%) were killed in bike crashes in the Argyllshire area alone.
pete
ok...15 people died...:thumbdown:
but...HOW did they die?
i bet 90% of those deaths were nothing to do with speed or biker holiganism!!
unaware car drivers and bad road/weather conditions come to pass 1st before calling in the army!
cracking down on bikers who flout the law.
pete
WTF?!
are all bikers criminals from a US cable TV show?
Bikers who fail to maintain a safe distance from other drivers, overtake improperly or have loud exhausts have been targeted as this behaviour impacts on the quality of life, not just for residents but visitors to the Argyllshire area.
pete
BIKERS?!
why not ROAD USERS (inc cars?!!?)
everything in the paragraph above relates to ALL road users, not just bikers!
loud exhausts..YES...some bikers are just taking the mic with the amount of noise they r trying to create from their 600cccc
BUT
boy racers are doing the same to their 1.0 corsa's!
"There is no excuse for those who ride carelessly or exceed the speed limit and who cause nuisance and annoyance to other people.
pete
nuisance and annoyance to other people?!?!
does that include people who sit at 25 mph in a national speed limit area?
"Under Anti-Social Behaviour Order (ASBO) legislation those caught speeding or distressing members of the public will face a formal written warning, which is recorded for 12 months. Should the driver commit a similar offence within the 12 month period their bike will be confiscated and they will be reported to the Procurator Fiscal."
pete
OTT i think...
does a car get reported to the fisco is he gets caught speeding on the M8 one week after being caught for the same offence on the M1?
"Bikes being used without insurance or driving licence will be seized by my officers."
pete
no argument there...
BUT...should the DVLA computer not already be picking up bikes that are not taxed?
thats like a painter saying..."i supply my OWN brushes!!"
"I must stress the majority of bikers are content to visit the Argyllshire area and enjoy their motorcycling experience."
pete
i am sure 99.9% of the bikers are not content in being pulled up be young power hungry cops and spoken to like a 2nd class citizen
i am content as well to go riding in argyllshire, providing i am not treated like a criminal for ridding 2 wheels on a sunny weekend!
all in the name of safey my bottom!
anyone that read MCN this week would have seen the WELSH Hitler of traffic cops using a decapitated bikers body as slogan for safer biking...i mean....what the hell are the cops up to?!
The Basket
08-05-07, 01:17 PM
anyone that read MCN this week would have seen the WELSH Hitler of traffic cops using a decapitated bikers body as slogan for safer biking...i mean....what the hell are the cops up to?!
That was well out of order that was. Heard about that and I was disgusted.:thumbdown:
And I now know where Argyll and Bute is.
stuartyboy
08-05-07, 01:33 PM
I have visited/lived up that area for years from Balachulish to Oban. Quite simply the police presence is due to the increasing number of complaints from holiday homers complaining about the noise and speeding. Because the police get all these complaints it racks up on their ticket system and they have to act on it. Freedom of information act will give you info about the calls received in the area.
What really ****es me off is the police do **** all about the drink driving that goes on 7 nights a week - plenty of them holiday home owners by the way. If they sat outside any one of the local pubs at shutting time or waited outside the village paper shop on a Sunday morning they would get their fill of drunk drivers. The weekenders are easy to spot - usually shiny new 4x4s, mercs, big bmws Audi TTs, soft tops etc that none of the locals would drive around in.
Easy answer is to increase the number of complaints to outweigh the bike complaints. This will put their call logging system into the red and they have to act on it.
For example... one way would be to increase the number of ASBOS against weekend holiday home owners. If you see a sign outside a house saying "private road" or "no tresspassers" then it is 99% certain that it is a holiday home owner. (True locals never do this). There's no such thing as a private road or a tresspass law* in Scotland. Its illegal to prevent anyone access by displaying such a sign. If you see a sign like this then call the police saying you have been denied access or through passage. By doing this the owner has to remove the sign. Go back a week later and if the owner hasn't removed it then call the Police again. Insist they serve an ASBO on them. If they don't do this then they should confiscate their cars and houses.:smt016
* The only law governing "trespass" in Scotland applies ONLY if the landowner can prove damage to the property.
stuartyboy
08-05-07, 01:45 PM
who cause nuisance and annoyance to other people....under Anti-Social Behaviour Order (ASBO) legislation those caught speeding or distressing members of the public ... local people and visitors to enjoy the peace and quiet of the area as much as the bikers."
Er...what about the fecking Tornadoes that scare the ****e out of people, scare livestock and make children cry when they fly past. Are they going to serve ASBOS on the RAF????
We aim to target the minority who are intent in exceeding the speed limit, riding carelessly and making a nuisance of themselves
Er...since when was pulling in every biker targetting the minority???
The Basket
08-05-07, 01:54 PM
Not being wrong here but if some gezzer is doing well over the ton and gets pulled then whos to blame for that?
Many a time I've been on the road and some knobster has done something stoooooopid and deserves a tug.
The police are wrong to target bikers for sure but the eejits ruin it for us less eejits.
Luckypants
08-05-07, 02:11 PM
The police are wrong to target bikers for sure but the eejits ruin it for us less eejits.
totally agree, this kind (http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=88978) of behaviour gives us all a bad name.
DaBlackKnight
08-05-07, 02:50 PM
i am glad i got my blackbird now! when i did...
cause if the numptys of the road keep going the way they r going...
its just going to spoil it for everyone else...to the point some people might just give up biking all together cause of new and wonderfull government laws...
IE -
the NEW super test centers...
making it harder to get your bike lisence all together and down right impossible for some!
this also puts small local town instructors/schools out of business cause no one lives near a test center or can be botherd learning cause it tooo much hassel!
you would think the governemt would welcome the use of motorbikes...
smaller...less harmfull to ecco system...ease traffic on roads...
but instead...
we are getting branded as criminals...
being baned from ridding your bikes to/from work by some companies...
having th ablity of sitting your bike test restricted to a handful of places in the whole country...
its a poor state of affairs and can only see it getting worse!
Bikers are like Jedi...soon to be x-stinct by the greater darker powers!
nuisance and annoyance to other people?!?!
does that include people who sit at 25 mph in a national speed limit area?
You must have forgotten then that the speed limit is a maximum and not a requirement! Its annoying but they are not neccessarly doing anything wrong in the eyes of the law
and by the way the ASBO legislation cannot be used in the way that they are saying and in the same vein you cannot insist that the police serve ASBOs on anyone - as they don't deal with the legislation and the amount of evidence required and legal procedures can make it a very lengthy process.
Easiest way to avoid it all - brush up on your legislation as the police invariably know jack s*** about it!:grin: :smt027
peterco
08-05-07, 03:48 PM
Slow Driving and Safe Driving
Paul Ripley explains how driving too slowly can be just as dangerous and antisocial as excessive speed
There is no need to feel guilty for driving at less than the speed limit if that is what safety requires, and I would never condemn anyone for doing so; indeed, I have frequently pointed out that speed limits represent a maximum, not a safe speed for all conditions.
Excessive speed is a causal factor in relatively few accidents (less than 10 per cent). Nevertheless, crude or not, speed limits save lives, and nobody in their right mind would argue against their sensible application. Irrespective of what limit is attached to a particular section of road, and whether it is sensible or not, we all have a duty to drive legally and, more importantly, safely.
Like other responsible drivers, I may choose to drive below a given speed limit if it isn't safe to proceed any quicker. But this requires judgment. To drive along a motorway at 30mph in good conditions because I didn't want to go any faster would not be a safe thing to do.
Similarly, if you drive at 40mph in a 50mph zone when there is no justification for such caution, you should not be surprised if a queue of drivers builds up behind you. And at that point you should take their rights and feelings into account as well as your own. How would you feel if you were held up by someone who shared your philosophy, but regarded 20mph as the ideal speed?
We all have to share the available road space, and to do so safely requires co-operation, courtesy and compassion. Yet some motorists don't seem to understand the effect they have on others. Persistent dawdling and/or obstruction can wreak havoc on the tempers of following drivers who lack a masters degree in patience, and their increasingly desperate attempts to overtake can be highly dangerous.
It is foolish of them to take risks, but the slowcoach at the head of the procession must share some of the responsibility for allowing the situation to arise. We are dealing with humans, not robots.
It is said of some drivers that thay have never have had an accident but have caused hundreds, and there is an element of truth in that stereotype. It is certainly hard to believe that the many drivers who travel everywhere at a steady 40mph - 20mph below the speed limit on the open road, but 10mph above the limit in villages and towns - are safer than those who vary their speed according to the prevailing conditions and the posted limit.
Try to ensure that when you drive below the limit you do so for a good and justifiable reason and not because you are unaware of the needs of others or get some kind of kick out of imposing your philosophy on them. If you really don't feel comfortable at a higher speed, allow following drivers to overtake you, as The Highway Code demands.
And if you find yourself in a procession but are unwilling to pass those ahead of you, then for goodness' sake leave an adequate space between you and the car in front so that those who wish to overtake can safely slot into the gap as they work their way past the queue; forcing a driver to overtake several vehicles at once, or making it hard for him to pull in, is a recipe for disaster. Selfish drivers are bad drivers, and potentially dangerous at any speed.
(Taken from the "Daily Telegraph", Saturday 9 March 2002. The copyright of Paul Ripley and the Daily Telegraph is acknowledged)
pete
stuartyboy
08-05-07, 04:33 PM
and by the way the ASBO legislation cannot be used in the way that they are saying
Wrong. The Police can serve ASBOs. As for using the legislation - you're also wrong. Tayside Police have been doing this since 2004.
http://www.tayside.police.uk/newsarchiveitem.php?id=317&mon=11&year=2005
There was a whole program dedicated to ASBOs a couple of weeks ago on living TV channel. ("Police camera action" or something like that.) The TV crew followed a Tayside Police Traffic unit around Dundee. They were stopping cars with loud pipes on, checking computers and towing them away.
independentphoto
08-05-07, 04:47 PM
Wrong. The Police can serve ASBOs. As for using the legislation - you're also wrong. Tayside Police have been doing this since 2004.
http://www.tayside.police.uk/newsarchiveitem.php?id=317&mon=11&year=2005
There was a whole program dedicated to ASBOs a couple of weeks ago on living TV channel. ("Police camera action" or something like that.) The TV crew followed a Tayside Police Traffic unit around Dundee. They were stopping cars with loud pipes on, checking computers and towing them away.
:shock: Indy runs and hides............................
......Stuarty - you've perhaps bitten off the wrong apple there mate- she works in Anti-Social and has done for a number of years now!
Remember......
New powers introduced under the act assist the police in dealing with people who cause alarm, distress or annoyance to the public through the antisocial use of vehicles on or off public roads.
Garry:smt103
stuartyboy
08-05-07, 05:33 PM
:shock: Indy runs and hides............Stuarty - you've perhaps bitten off the wrong apple there mate- she works in Anti-Social and has done for a number of years now!
Remember......Garry:smt103
I'm not scared of anyone ;) Maybe I phrased it wrong.
I'm sure she does but unless I read wrong and saw wrong those were definitely Police impounding those cars and bikes.
If Q knows something we dont or has advice to help us then get it on here so we can all benefit. :D
what is all the fuss about, argyll and bute do this every summer. watch out for helicopter when going over the military road, never police on the wibbly wobbly, police speed check at bottom of rest and be thankful. police presence at tyndrum. If you just keep you temper and are not rude they are usually alright. on one rideout someone who will remain nameless (foreign blokey) did a dodgy overtake, car coming the other way flashed his lights, unfortunately it was a police car. he caught up with us all in inverary whilst we had ice cream and passed out bike safe leaflets.
-Ralph-
08-05-07, 06:50 PM
Slow Driving and Safe Driving
Paul Ripley explains how driving too slowly can be just as dangerous and antisocial as excessive speed
pete
:winner: , nuf said on that one.
How does stopping every biker crack down on the minority? Sorry, my mistake, we are the minority!
But we are one of the few minorities, for whom it's socially acceptable to target and persecute.
Random stopping and searching of every person of another minority, because they were statistically more likely to break the law. Now didn't that get headline news and controversy for months? It's the same thing though innit?
northwind
08-05-07, 11:38 PM
I could be wrong here, but ISTR that impeding progress is an offence?
on one rideout someone who will remain nameless (foreign blokey) did a dodgy overtake, car coming the other way flashed his lights, unfortunately it was a police car. he caught up with us all in inverary whilst we had ice cream and passed out bike safe leaflets.
Was that particular dodgy immigrant also caught for a half-bald tyre on the same ride? I wasn't there but it rings a bell ;)
DaBlackKnight
09-05-07, 07:55 AM
Slow Driving and Safe Driving
Paul Ripley explains how driving too slowly can be just as dangerous and antisocial as excessive speed
pete
who is the safer road user?
the ford fiesta couple that drive at 40mph in 30's/50/s/60's that do not know what mirrors or blind check spots r for...?
or
the biker that is constantly checking his surroundings and doing the correct speed limit in town, but on occasion will go above the stated speed limit out of town?
if police/government r wanting safer roads it should be the 4 wheeled people they should be targetting 1st!
(ANY near misses or accidents i have nearly been involved in has been with another car/lorry/van, not a motorcyclist!)
also
why is the car test not changing to one of these super centres as well?
far more car users than there are of bikers!
so statically speaking, car drivers have a higher chance of causing more accidents than bikes, speeding or not speeding!
I'm not scared of anyone ;) Maybe I phrased it wrong.
I'm sure she does but unless I read wrong and saw wrong those were definitely Police impounding those cars and bikes.
If Q knows something we dont or has advice to help us then get it on here so we can all benefit. :D
No need to be scared thats him on a wind up!:smt077 :smt077
ASB legislation assists the police but they are not an instant thing they need police assistance as it can result in a criminal conviction if broken. However the Community Safety Partnerships (CSPs) need to have police evidence of ASB ie call details from the STORM database but essentially of the leg work/evidence collecting and legal preparation are done by the CSP. Invariably the police wash their hands of most ASB and they don't know the legislation too well either.
Though update on motoring convictions they can impound vehicles this bypasses the CSP totally (unknown to me so my knowledge is not always fantatstic:rolleyes: ) They use ASB legislation to help motoring ASB but the impoundment powers are far reaching and will and can cover practically anything though they have to have proof that they can do it (not road legal cans, etc etc)
Noise abatement and speed - all machines MUST be calibrated before use and they must be able to prove this.
Fresh from the horses mouth - CSP Police Liasion Sgt
So we were both half right Stuarty:smt045
i am glad i got my blackbird now! when i did...
Why?
If they are stopping all bikers your blackbird is still a bike and you won't be immune to it juts because you are on a tourer esp if they are stopping Harleys
DaBlackKnight
09-05-07, 10:40 AM
Why?
If they are stopping all bikers your blackbird is still a bike and you won't be immune to it juts because you are on a tourer esp if they are stopping Harleys
cause in the future biking might be illegal all together by the V for Vendetta state in a few years...
I could be wrong here, but ISTR that impeding progress is an offence?
Was that particular dodgy immigrant also caught for a half-bald tyre on the same ride? I wasn't there but it rings a bell ;)
no i dont think so, police man never looked at the bikes. just as well, not a road legal exhaust amongst us lol
independentphoto
09-05-07, 04:27 PM
cause in the future biking might be illegal all together by the V for Vendetta state in a few years...
:-dd
stuartyboy
09-05-07, 05:04 PM
So we were both half right Stuarty:smt045
MWAH HONEY :D
here...you didn't show him my suggestion about upping the ASBOs for the holiday home owners? I'll have to change my identity...hair...get a nose job....get a bit lopped off my p..ahem
jimmy4237
09-05-07, 09:49 PM
Last Saturday the police were like vicious nazis pulling every biker they saw.
I spoke to some lads at Inveraray who said the nazis pulled over a group of bikes, and did a mini MOT on every bike. Tickets for small plates and cans with the baffles out (even road legit removable baffle type cans) were getting written left right and centre.
Over the wibbly wobbly there was 2 marked police beemers cruising over that road and over the military road too..
There was even a blue mondeo 06 unmarked goating bikers into doing more than 60 just to get the blue lights going and make the filth £60 richer.
There was a black BMW unmarked up by Tyndrum coming towards me as I was overtaking a caravan doing 35mph. I was doing at least ** mph passing the slow moving dangerous queue causing obstacle and the filth never stopped me in my car.. but they stopped a biker who was travelling behind me doing the speed limit. (Yes the buggers did a U-turn on the main road at the hotel up from Tyndrum and stopped the bike but not me....)
The Nazis do it every year up there so the local bikers just ignore the area and go elsewhere. At the Green Welly a bike cop cruised by, stopped and came over to the car park inspecting the bikes that were parked up.
Total nazi b******s the lot of them.
northwind
10-05-07, 01:07 AM
Jimmy gets a prize for the most uses of the word "nazi" in one post :) Say what you like about the tenets of national socialism, dude, at least it's an ethos.
Tiger 55
10-05-07, 06:38 AM
Say what you like about the tenets of national socialism, dude, at least it's an ethos.
Are these the Nazis?
No Donny, these men are Nihilists. There's nothing to be afraid of.
DaBlackKnight
10-05-07, 07:53 AM
Last Saturday the police were like vicious nazis pulling every biker they saw.
I spoke to some lads at Inveraray who said the nazis pulled over a group of bikes, and did a mini MOT on every bike. Tickets for small plates and cans with the baffles out (even road legit removable baffle type cans) were getting written left right and centre.
Over the wibbly wobbly there was 2 marked police beemers cruising over that road and over the military road too..
There was even a blue mondeo 06 unmarked goating bikers into doing more than 60 just to get the blue lights going and make the filth £60 richer.
There was a black BMW unmarked up by Tyndrum coming towards me as I was overtaking a caravan doing 35mph. I was doing at least ** mph passing the slow moving dangerous queue causing obstacle and the filth never stopped me in my car.. but they stopped a biker who was travelling behind me doing the speed limit. (Yes the buggers did a U-turn on the main road at the hotel up from Tyndrum and stopped the bike but not me....)
The Nazis do it every year up there so the local bikers just ignore the area and go elsewhere. At the Green Welly a bike cop cruised by, stopped and came over to the car park inspecting the bikes that were parked up.
Total nazi b******s the lot of them.
:smt073
this world rocks...
have the authorities not got anything better to do on this planet!?
terrorism...weapons dealers...drug dealers...pedo's...wife beaters...murderers...yobo's with knifes...
you know...CRIMINALS
the ones walking about the streets unchallenged!!!
but instead, most of the police resources are spent pulling over people for MINOR discrepancies on the road in a remote place of the country...
as for the unmarked 06 ford driving...
is that not...DANGEROUS, ilegal & classed as intrapment?
never understood WHY WHY WHY police cars like to drive as close to ur rear bumper/wheel as possible?
they r trying to promote road safety on one hand, but at the same time they trying to force u into speeding or doing something daft while not observing minimal safe distance?!
:nomore:
SoulKiss
10-05-07, 08:05 AM
Last Saturday the police were like vicious nazis pulling every biker they saw.
I spoke to some lads at Inveraray who said the nazis pulled over a group of bikes, and did a mini MOT on every bike. Tickets for small plates and cans with the baffles out (even road legit removable baffle type cans) were getting written left right and centre.
Over the wibbly wobbly there was 2 marked police beemers cruising over that road and over the military road too..
There was even a blue mondeo 06 unmarked goating bikers into doing more than 60 just to get the blue lights going and make the filth £60 richer.
There was a black BMW unmarked up by Tyndrum coming towards me as I was overtaking a caravan doing 35mph. I was doing at least ** mph passing the slow moving dangerous queue causing obstacle and the filth never stopped me in my car.. but they stopped a biker who was travelling behind me doing the speed limit. (Yes the buggers did a U-turn on the main road at the hotel up from Tyndrum and stopped the bike but not me....)
The Nazis do it every year up there so the local bikers just ignore the area and go elsewhere. At the Green Welly a bike cop cruised by, stopped and came over to the car park inspecting the bikes that were parked up.
Total nazi b******s the lot of them.
I Hereby invoke Godwin's Law, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_Law) Jimmy - you lose :)
jimmy4237
10-05-07, 09:50 PM
I Hereby invoke Godwin's Law, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_Law) Jimmy - you lose :)
Fair enough - you win. Just ranting as per usual angry bikers do from time to time. Not fair as to what the police were doing though up there.
MWAH HONEY :D
here...you didn't show him my suggestion about upping the ASBOs for the holiday home owners? I'll have to change my identity...hair...get a nose job....get a bit lopped off my p..ahem
Its okay - he was a she and for a 'nazi' she's a great laugh and really down to earth. She is what they should all be like!:cool:
Ah, they said Mr Brunstrom was out of the country. Now I understand.
They were right, he's out of Wales.... he's in Scotland!
Keep him! Please! I'll pay you! :rolleyes:
garyshoose
11-05-07, 12:36 PM
It's the same old nonsense every year but don't be fooled. There is a major wave against bikes at the moment. I got captured in the lakes a few months ago and it was by a decent traffic cop. Yes decent, they're not all brainless. Fortunately he was a biker and done almost everything but actually appologise for the pull. The fact is, they are all under a lot LOT of pressure from somewhere high up to carry out a purge which the wiser ones amongst them know is wrong. I'm neither supporting nor condeming them but they're boss tells them to do it or see their way to the door. It's not a police thing it's a state thing. The ones whoi treat you like dirt are the brainless ones looking forward to thier early retirement and fat pension.
Tiger 55
11-05-07, 02:37 PM
their boss tells them to do it
Aha, so they are only following orders! Just like another uniformed organisation which Godwin prevents me from mentioning...
stuartyboy
11-05-07, 04:50 PM
Was chatting to a friend today who stays Rothesay direction. She was telling me that on the Sunday there were 2 unmarked police bikes who chasing down and pulling bikes over. She's gonna get the bike types reg's etc and I'll post here when I find out.
SVTONYB
11-05-07, 11:47 PM
She's gonna get the bike types reg's etc and I'll post here when I find out.
what good will that do when they come up behind you and give you a tug ;)
Blue Flame
12-05-07, 04:58 AM
no i dont think so, police man never looked at the bikes. just as well, not a road legal exhaust amongst us lol
Errm mine was and still is ;)
Tiger 55
12-05-07, 07:46 AM
Was chatting to a friend today who stays Rothesay direction. She was telling me that on the Sunday there were 2 unmarked police bikes who chasing down and pulling bikes over.
Rothesay? Two bikes? There's only one decent road on the whole island! They'll be doolally going round in circles by now!
Nah, they'll be long gone...
SVTONYB
12-05-07, 10:28 AM
Rothesay? Two bikes? There's only one decent road on the whole island! They'll be doolally going round in circles by now!
Nah, they'll be long gone...
You have to remember SB comes from kinross so Rothesay direction probably includes the whole west coast :cool:
Errm mine was and still is ;)
oh well you were the exception to the rule lol as usual
stuartyboy
13-05-07, 01:26 AM
You have to remember SB comes from kinross so Rothesay direction probably includes the whole west coast :cool:
lmao
Its somewhere in the vicinity.
muzikill
13-05-07, 07:05 PM
Think i will get myself some mounted cameras on the bike ala' gp style! for the next time i visit Der Vaterland errr... i mean Argyle & Bute lol!
heck! im going to call it that from now on haha
makes me think, can a mounted camera set-up be done? I was thinking with a bit of ingenuity using the guts of webcams and removeable usb h/drives etc.. ideas anyone?
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