View Full Version : How do you empty a toilet bowl of water?
the white rabbit
14-06-07, 03:23 PM
Yes, how do you empty a toilet bowl of water? Need to do some maintenance. :confused:
Close off your stop tap and run all the taps till they run dry and then flush loo, worked for me a couple of weeks ago
chazzyb
14-06-07, 03:27 PM
A straw? ;-)
A big sink plunger is usefull too
the white rabbit
14-06-07, 03:27 PM
But doesnt the flush water then make the fresh water in the bowl/pan?
Yes, how do you empty a toilet bowl of water? Need to do some maintenance. :confused:
Suck it out with a straw and spit it into the bath.
Drink it! :thumright:
(I know, not very helpful... all the above but u could also scoop out the last of it with a deoderant lid..)
If your removing the toilet pan just leave the water in it and carry it level and empty it out!
the white rabbit
14-06-07, 03:30 PM
If your removing the toilet pan just leave the water in it and carry it level and empty it out!
No its staying put.
Next......
a sink plunger, or a pump.
a sponge?
OoooooOOOOOOOH.. Now that are a clever idea... :smt035
If it's staying put why do you need to empty it? What maintenance are you doing might helps us help you? ;)
Pedrosa
14-06-07, 03:40 PM
Ask friendly neighbour to lend you dog. Take dog to bathroom,dog loving to drink from toilet? I am not know why is this?:rolleyes:
454697819
14-06-07, 03:54 PM
use a plunger, it will push the water through the trap... bear in mind with no water in the trap it will smell..
enjoy....
i have sympathy as i installed a new one last week..
plowsie
14-06-07, 04:05 PM
Suck it out with a straw and spit it into the bath.
+1 on what he said
kwak zzr
14-06-07, 04:34 PM
tie up the ball **** and then flush, the raised ball **** thinks the cistern is full and stops it from re filling:) you are serious right?
BristolMatt
14-06-07, 07:33 PM
1) Purchace packet of Smash Instant Potato
2) Pour into toilet
3) Mix well
Then you can
a Scoup out with spoon
OR
b) Leave for few weeks until
i - its solid and can be pulled out as a lump
ii - its gone mouldy and climbs out itself
Ta da - empty :D
Sorry I just got in and all I can think about is FOOD (though not Smash specifically)
Biker Biggles
14-06-07, 07:36 PM
Log out in it to displace the water.:smt115
drill little hole in the bottom and then collect the water in cups, throw down sink, fill holes with filler, carry out maintenance, fill back up!!
Ta da all done.
Spiderman
14-06-07, 07:46 PM
tie up the ball **** and then flush, the raised ball **** thinks the cistern is full and stops it from re filling:) you are serious right?
But tht only keeps the cistern from refilling. The water that just left the cistern is now happily chilling in the pan below.
the good Dr seems to want to only empty the pan. Why? Who the hell knows. Dr's nowdays etc.
Big plunger into bowl and give it some. There will still be some water, remove with sponge. Or Smash if its easier as i liked BristolMatts idea a lot :lol:
Presto, empty pan. There will still be some water escaping a bit, as a biker you understand that nothing ever stays dry if water wants to get to it.
But, what maintenance are you doing? I'm baffled. :confused:
Or is this some diabolical psychological test you've snuck up on us?
tigersaw
14-06-07, 07:49 PM
take loads of inflated tyres into bathroom at 60psi. completely seal bathroom and make airtight. deflate tyres, increasing pressure in bathroom, pushing water around the u bend.
dirtydog
14-06-07, 08:03 PM
the good Dr seems to want to only empty the pan. Why? Who the hell knows. Dr's nowdays etc.
But, what maintenance are you doing? I'm baffled. :confused:
I've no idea why either or what maintenance would require the emptying of the pan and i'm a plumber!
dirtydog
14-06-07, 08:04 PM
oh ans the smash idea might not work as you're meant to use boiling water ;)
dizzyblonde
14-06-07, 08:08 PM
syphon..works on petrol tanks doesn't it?
What are you trying to do?
If you are taking the multi fit (drain) of the back you don't need to do anything cos the water in the bottom of the toilet is lower than the outlet (just - you may get a little spill). Just disconnect, if that's all your doing.
If you're removing the cistern (the water container on the top of the toilet) then you can either turn of the isolator valve near the water inlet if you have one, or like someone else said turn the main stop c*ck off. Flush toilet to remove most of the water reservoir. You can't get it all out without tipping the whole thing upside down. Disconnect overflow if you have one - and lift free. and of course disconnect the water inlet feed. You shouldn't spill any (perhaps a little that may be in the inlet pipe.
If you're cleaning the inside of the cistern or repairing then tie the ballc*ck in the up position (this plugs the inlet) and flush the water away.
What ever you're doing it is worth fitting an isolater valve whilst you're on but you will have to turn off water supply and cut the water inlet pipe to fit.
If you're just cleaning/descaling you can either leave the water in and fill with soda crystal or some other proprietry cleaner or empty by using any or all of the daft ideas suggested so far. Actually not so daft except using a straw - takes too long ;)
In any event you shouldn't have to drain the whole water supply system. :)
I've no idea why either or what maintenance would require the emptying of the pan and i'm a plumber!
I bet he's spraying it gold, thats why!!! :lol:
dirtydog
14-06-07, 08:31 PM
I bet he's spraying it gold, thats why!!! :lol:
well it is known as a throne i spose
dirtydog
14-06-07, 08:33 PM
What ever you're doing it is worth fitting an isolater valve whilst you're on but you will have to turn off water supply and cut the water inlet pipe to fit.
Wish people would fit isolater/service valves when they fit things it would make it so much easier for me
Wish people would fit isolater/service valves when they fit things it would make it so much easier for me
Agreed!! Inconsiderate aren't they!!!
therealvw
14-06-07, 08:37 PM
Oy Vay!
Is he trying to bottle the water to sell it to pay for a lid or something?!
Spiderman
14-06-07, 08:38 PM
I design and sell bathrooms for a living and if we are doing the installation for the client too i'm forever teling the plumbers to put them in. Some are so resilient to the idea tho. Makes me mad!
I design and sell bathrooms for a living and if we are doing the installation for the client too i'm forever teling the plumbers to put them in. Some are so resilient to the idea tho. Makes me mad!
They can be a pain if they leak, but they do save alot of time!!!
dirtydog
14-06-07, 08:47 PM
If they're done properly they shouldn't leak although the speedfit ones are complete poo
If they're done properly they shouldn't leak although the speedfit ones are complete poo
I didn't mean fitting them properly. How many have you been too where they start leaking from the isolation screw, bloody p!sses me off because theres no way of stopping it once it's going.
dirtydog
14-06-07, 08:54 PM
I didn't mean fitting them properly. How many have you been too where they start leaking from the isolation screw, bloody p!sses me off because theres no way of stopping it once it's going.
Fair point, i had one the other day that had siezed up, turning the screw had no effect at all, pain to deal with but then i was there longer and charged more ;)
Luckypants
14-06-07, 09:46 PM
syphon..works on petrol tanks doesn't it?
The only sensible answer. Length of garden hose, pre fill with water, thumb over end to hols water in, one end in toilet bowl, one end in bucket (lower than bowl) remove thumb, water flows into bucket.
Really! Call yourselves men??? :rolleyes:
Doc, you're taking the pi$$ right?
*Taxi*
tigersaw
14-06-07, 09:49 PM
The only sensible answer. Length of garden hose, pre fill with water, thumb over end to hols water in, one end in toilet bowl, one end in bucket (lower than bowl) remove thumb, water flows into bucket.
Really! Call yourselves men??? :rolleyes:
So he needs to dig a hole, or are you assuming its an upstairs bathroom near the stairs?
dizzyblonde
14-06-07, 09:53 PM
The only sensible answer. Length of garden hose, pre fill with water, thumb over end to hols water in, one end in toilet bowl, one end in bucket (lower than bowl) remove thumb, water flows into bucket.
Really! Call yourselves men??? :rolleyes:
takes a woman with blonde common sense
Luckypants
14-06-07, 09:55 PM
So he needs to dig a hole, or are you assuming its an upstairs bathroom near the stairs?
nah, bottom of bowl will be at least an inch off the floor, botton of bucket should be about 1/4 inch? 95% of the water will siphon out. If you need more out than that, sponge / rag.....
kwak zzr
14-06-07, 09:55 PM
fill the toilet with cornflakes, eat breakfast from said bowel with small spoon, hey presto empty toilet, if you cant get it all out let the dog finish it off.
dizzyblonde
14-06-07, 09:57 PM
The only sensible answer. Length of garden hose, pre fill with water, thumb over end to hols water in, one end in toilet bowl, one end in bucket (lower than bowl) remove thumb, water flows into bucket.
Really! Call yourselves men??? :rolleyes:
i can do science, me !!
phil24_7
15-06-07, 01:04 AM
Something like this with a piece of hose on either end.
http://www.shop.edirectory.co.uk/autosave/88888/mia/pid/443504
Google "drill powered pump" for others.
Regards
Did you drop something in the loo Rich and you dont want to get your hands wet...?
Get some liquid nitrogen, freeze the water and then just remove the block off ice...Or get a welding torch and melt the water
therealvw
15-06-07, 05:38 AM
Did you drop something in the loo Rich and you dont want to get your hands wet...?
Get some liquid nitrogen, freeze the water and then just remove the block off ice...Or get a welding torch and melt the water
MELT WATER, how do you MELT WATER, evaporate maybe. but MELT!
:confused: ALSO just to be totally anal retentive, if you FROZE the water wouldn't it expand and crack the bowl?
Sheeesh,
Sorry Falcon!
Drill powered pump sounds like a plan though!!!
iafter the time it takes you to read all these posts Doc you might find the water has evaporated anyway! :D
dirtydog
15-06-07, 07:19 AM
:confused: ALSO just to be totally anal retentive, if you FROZE the water wouldn't it expand and crack the bowl?
Water volume increases by about 4 times when frozen but if you froze the water in the pan it would probably expand upwards so in theory it wouldn't crack the pan
slark01
15-06-07, 07:30 AM
not to offend, but melting water has just cracked me up, I must be tired.
MELT WATER, how do you MELT WATER, evaporate maybe. but MELT!
:confused: ALSO just to be totally anal retentive, if you FROZE the water wouldn't it expand and crack the bowl?
Sheeesh,
Sorry Falcon!
Drill powered pump sounds like a plan though!!!
Not sure if you noticed but this thread isnt exactly meant to be a serious and a totally accurate one and at that time of the morning im hardly awake so making a sentance is hard enough let alone being correct
Use a hair dryer or blow torch to evaporate the water!
......eat breakfast from said bowel with small spoon.........
That's given me a horrible mental image. Cheers, mate ;)
Syphoning or the "small pump on a drill" thingy will work but, as someone else said, it's gonna stink with the U-bend empty.
therealvw
15-06-07, 08:21 AM
Falcon, I know, or thought it was a funny thread anyway, was winding you up. LOL
anyhoo, once the waer is out maybe he could shove somesoil in the ubend and plant a rose to stop the smell!?
weazelz
15-06-07, 08:22 AM
drill a hole in the u-bend :-)
drill a hole in the u-bend :-)
Similar effect achieved using a lump-hammer :thumbsup:
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