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SoulKiss
21-06-07, 11:03 AM
#1 Always remove before trying to move your bike.
Had an incident last night, witnessed by many of the Selkent crew.
Thanks to Jambo (well Jambo's bike) I got off lightly, a slight chip on my front wheel. Well that and a bit of a case of "Crash Bung A**e" from siting on his one :)
1st time I have ever done it, hopefully the last.
Now my disklock came with one of those curly plastic reminder things, which I used to have round my right clip-on. I removed this for 2 reasons, it probaby wasn't that safe, and I started to lock my bike on the rear wheel.
My new solution is to use one of those key-ring trigger hooks to attach my lock keys to my ignition key when the lock is on the bike.
This is the hook in question.
http://www.kleins.co.uk/ekmps/shops/kleins/images/7700%282%29.jpg
Just thought that I would
a) Be the 1st to let everyone know what a prat I was :P
b) Share a possible solution to a common problem.
David
PS Did anyone take a pick of me trapped between the bikes - if so, enter it in the June piccy contest and I'll go halves on the prize :P
http://www.bikebone.com/miva/graphics/00000002/Boss-Alarm-disclockpic.jpg
I have one of the above. See the yellow thingy (bungee cord, not the lock itself)? That goes in the lock arm, and on the throttle. No chance of me doing what you did with that in place, and no-one can walk off with the bungee whilst it's locked up.
You can buy the bungee's seperately too.
HTH.
SoulKiss
21-06-07, 11:11 AM
Exact same lock, with the exact same yellow curly thing that I threw away as it didnt reach to the rear wheel :P
Exact same lock, with the exact same yellow curly thing that I threw away as it didnt reach to the rear wheel :P
Completely your fault then.
Also, why disc lock the rear wheel? Isn't that where your chain goes? :rolleyes:
PS Did anyone take a pick of me trapped between the bikes - if so, enter it in the June piccy contest and I'll go halves on the prize :P
No, but we can renact the scene if there's a prize. ;)
That disc lock is a powerful brake isn't it! :grin:
Gordon B
21-06-07, 11:17 AM
Completely your fault then.
Also, why disc lock the rear wheel? Isn't that where your chain goes? :rolleyes:
What he said ^^^
Why lock the rear? I have one of these exact same locks (came free with my insurance last year) and works a treat. I am in the habit of using it now but still wouldn't use it without the bungy because I just know I would forget one day.
Also, why disc lock the rear wheel?:
why indeed?
I removed this for 2 reasons, it probaby wasn't that safe, and I started to lock my bike on the rear wheel.
I don't understand not safe, do you mean someone nicking your string?
P.S I've done it, not recently but years ago, a disk lock was known as a padlock back then.
What he said ^^^
Why lock the rear? I have one of these exact same locks (came free with my insurance last year) and works a treat. I am in the habit of using it now but still wouldn't use it without the bungy because I just know I would forget one day.
why indeed?
I think it's cos it's easier to lift the lighter front of the bike and wheel it away. Doesn't stop a team of thieves lifting the whole bike into a van though.
SoulKiss
21-06-07, 11:22 AM
Completely your fault then.
Also, why disc lock the rear wheel? Isn't that where your chain goes? :rolleyes:
Nope - usually its just disklock on the rear.
Chain = too big and heavy to carry around.
Rear rather than front as its easier to lift the front of a bike up and wheel it about on the back wheel, if you lock the front then there is the steering lock in play, and if that is disabled, there is the wibbly-wobbly nature of the front wheel.
If I am leaving the bike anywhere - like the NCP carpark in Bristol that the hotel I was staying in the other week, then my Abus Granit 25 D-Lock comes out to play, it goes through the rear with the Disklock on the front.
My chain tends to live on the floor of my garage - its just an Oxford one (they were doing a deal in Infinity, buy the £60 chain, get the £80 alarmed disklock for free or something like that)
SoulKiss
21-06-07, 11:24 AM
I don't understand not safe, do you mean someone nicking your string?
P.S I've done it, not recently but years ago, a disk lock was known as a padlock back then.
I left it round my bar, sliding the key-ring bit onto my brake lever.
I never had any problems, but someone who's opinion I respect really didn't like it, so I removed it.
I've been there and done that, dropped a bike because of it, wasn't able to take a break and rest on someone else's bike while I composed myself....:grin:
plowsie
21-06-07, 11:25 AM
i thought what law said
SoulKiss
21-06-07, 11:27 AM
I've been there and done that, dropped a bike because of it, wasn't able to take a break and rest on someone else's bike while I composed myself....:grin:
Apart from the crashbung, I have to say quite a comfy bike to sit on is the ZX6.
Dont think the newer models would be so comfortable.
Will park the other side of Treacle next time, ok its a ZX10, but should give an idea
Apart from the crashbung, I have to say quite a comfy bike to sit on is the ZX6.
Dont think the newer models would be so comfortable.
Will park the other side of Treacle next time, ok its a ZX10, but should give an idea
I would avoid parking next to the shiny bikes if you plan to do this again....:rolleyes:
MiniMatt
21-06-07, 11:38 AM
Chuckle, well I for one will offer sympathy rather than tell you not to be such a tit in future :D Been there, done that :D Don't worry, sheer embarrasment will ensure this is the first and last occasion :D
RingDing
21-06-07, 12:05 PM
P.S I've done it, not recently but years ago, a disk lock was known as a padlock back then.
:)
That doesn't work so well though. My mate used to use a padlock on the front of his YammaGamma. He forgot to take it off one day. There was a jolt as it smacked against the caliper...and then it fell on the floor. The sharp sidewasy impact had sheared the loop of metal. Mind ewe knowing him, he probably bought it from a market stall! :D
RingDing
21-06-07, 12:09 PM
Just thought that I would
a) Be the 1st to let everyone know what a prat I was :P
If it makes you ffel any better I once forgot my disc lock twice in one day...dropped the bike each time...on opposite sides! My poor GSX...
I would like to add that this was many years ago. I would never make that mistake these days...oh no.;)
http://www.bikebone.com/miva/graphics/00000002/Boss-Alarm-disclockpic.jpg
I have one of the above. See the yellow thingy (bungee cord, not the lock itself)? That goes in the lock arm, and on the throttle. No chance of me doing what you did with that in place, and no-one can walk off with the bungee whilst it's locked up.
You can buy the bungee's seperately too.
HTH.
I've got one of these too.
The joy of the alarmed lock is that when you do try and move your bike with it still in place and end up on your **** with the bike on top of you, the alarm goes off to ensure the maximum amount of people witness you making a tit of yourself ! :lol:
Your just lucky that jambos bike did not fall over onto the car, that would have got complicated.
Get two curley cords, join them together, if on the back then you have double length, if on the front just use half. Dont use the lock when parked up with loads of other bikes in the middle of nowhere and when we can all see the bikes. Im sure they would take the ZX10 before someones SV.
SoulKiss
21-06-07, 01:03 PM
Your just lucky that jambos bike did not fall over onto the car, that would have got complicated.
Get two curley cords, join them together, if on the back then you have double length, if on the front just use half. Dont use the lock when parked up with loads of other bikes in the middle of nowhere and when we can all see the bikes. Im sure they would take the ZX10 before someones SV.
If I hadn't noticed Jambo's disk lock on then I wouldn't have put mine on.
If I hadn't noticed Jambo's disk lock on then I wouldn't have put mine on.
"Here, hold this buck..."
"What?"
;)
northwind
21-06-07, 01:10 PM
Definately better to lock the back than the front IMO, you're far less likely to bin it if you do forget (for obvious reasons) and you'll probably damage cheaper parts. An SV disc is, what, £150? Rear disc or sprocket is far less. Don't ask me how i know (bent Galfer disc for sale) If someone does decide to carry the bike off it doesn't matter in the slightest which end is locked, so might as well make it the one that suits you better.
Since I've been on a lock-nazi run recently, I might mention that most disc locks can be bolt cropped just as easily as most cheap chains, Thatcham for vehicles and Sold Secure is as meaningless for locks as chains. Motrax Vishas did very well in proper attack tests though, and it's not expensive. Doesn't make much difference but I know a lot of people use the same lock for chains as they do for their disc lock, lots of Oxford Monsters frinstance- so, do bear in mind that your lock is probably your weakest link, no point in having a 19mm chain locked with a toffee lock ;)
Ceri JC
21-06-07, 03:16 PM
Definately better to lock the back than the front IMO, you're far less likely to bin it if you do forget (for obvious reasons) and you'll probably damage cheaper parts. An SV disc is, what, £150? Rear disc or sprocket is far less. Don't ask me how i know (bent Galfer disc for sale) If someone does decide to carry the bike off it doesn't matter in the slightest which end is locked, so might as well make it the one that suits you better.
Since I've been on a lock-nazi run recently, I might mention that most disc locks can be bolt cropped just as easily as most cheap chains, Thatcham for vehicles and Sold Secure is as meaningless for locks as chains. Motrax Vishas did very well in proper attack tests though, and it's not expensive. Doesn't make much difference but I know a lot of people use the same lock for chains as they do for their disc lock, lots of Oxford Monsters frinstance- so, do bear in mind that your lock is probably your weakest link, no point in having a 19mm chain locked with a toffee lock ;)
An ex-colleague (who despite being an experienced rider, was a bit of a teller of tall tales) reckoned that people would occassionaly smash/cut off brake disks to get the disc lock off and allow them to ride away on the bike. As I say, this is heresay and I've never actually known it to happen to anyone. If it is true and you had a bike with a single front disc, it might be be worth putting on the front for this reason (only a lunatic would ride on the road w/o a front brake, but most people would chance riding without a rear one). Only possible reason for locking the front rather than the rear I can see though. :)
SoulKiss
21-06-07, 03:24 PM
"Here, hold this buck..."
"What?"
;)
No buck-passing intended.
Was just saying that my evaluation on whether to lock or not was based on what I had observed others do.
If there was an element of "the blame game" then your kindness in loaning me the side of your bike to lean on while supporing mine, more than evens things out :P
Samnooshka
21-06-07, 03:25 PM
Oh dear, what you like!! :p glad no serious damage hun. I don't think you'll be doing that again in a hurry any time soon :)
northwind
21-06-07, 04:32 PM
An ex-colleague (who despite being an experienced rider, was a bit of a teller of tall tales) reckoned that people would occassionaly smash/cut off brake disks to get the disc lock off and allow them to ride away on the bike. As I say, this is heresay and I've never actually known it to happen to anyone. If it is true and you had a bike with a single front disc, it might be be worth putting on the front for this reason (only a lunatic would ride on the road w/o a front brake, but most people would chance riding without a rear one). Only possible reason for locking the front rather than the rear I can see though. :)
It's plausible I reckon, especially with cast iron discs- they're not so common these days mind. But it'd be an odd way of attacking the bike I think, since hardly anybody rides away anyway- easier just to lift I reckon. With most locks it'd be so easy to cut or break them that it'd make not much sense to attack the disc.
When they tried to nick my mate's Hornet, they just unbolted the disc and caliper- quite cunning. Luckily a neighbour saw them and ran them off.
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