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timwilky
21-06-07, 07:39 PM
I know this is awfully bad form, but I am having serious doubts as whether I want to ride the route of the ride out. Don't get me wrong I have absolutely no problems socialising with you guys. It is just the route.
Would you guys mind, if I was to go my own merry way on the Saturday.
There are some fantastic roads that demand to be ridden and I have to be honest in that I don't find the idea of an organised bimble in the country appealing.
Now I am not trying to organise any dissent. If (Note the use of the If) I go my own merry way, it will be on my own. One revolting individual is enough
is the route that bad?
No, Its cool :thumbsup:
dizzyblonde
21-06-07, 09:49 PM
my other half thought it a bit tame,but I pointed out it was thought of with everyone in mind of all abilities. However there are some seriously brilliant roads elsewhere in the area.
Quiff Wichard
21-06-07, 09:57 PM
i thought that is what sunday was for..!!
saturday is RIDE OUT DAY !
or it aint a ride out- it becomes a gathering for folk to do their own thing
dizzyblonde
21-06-07, 10:02 PM
:winner:
Sid Squid
21-06-07, 10:21 PM
I know this is awfully bad form...
Ummmm... It might be I can't decide.
But then you have the whole rest of the year to ride alone, just once a year do we meet to do this. And not forgetting that I and three others spent our time and money and effort, (enjoyable as it was), coming from London to work this out, it might be considered ungrateful not to join in :p .
timwilky
21-06-07, 11:40 PM
Guys,
Whilst personally I would have gone for a route that makes the best use of the roads we have available in the area. N/S peeps know what I mean. I have two personal issues.
1) I am in my own backyard. I feel from previous posts that there is a discipline as to how I will be expected to ride and with the collective, leaders, markers etc. Whereas I would prefer to simply ride at my own pace and meet up at set points.
2) this is my major issue. The use of the A65. I hate it. Too much double white line, tractors, trucks, queues, tourists, plods.
The overall route chosen is only a couple of hours out. We have a day. I am not a fast rider, but I do enjoy spirited riding. I am not sure that I would accept the discipline of riding with a large group.
Maybe it is cabin fever, not having been out since the N/S. But I feel the need for a hoon and not a bimble. Maybe the ride up will exercise the demon
tim, i see your point, as im not to keen on ploding around the country side either, BUT as you have said, you are in your own backyard, so you can do the faster paced ride anytime, where as people coming from a long way cant.
maybe as quiff said we could do somthing on the sunday?
OK, my initial thoughts were yes, fine, if you don't want to join the group ride, and want to do your own thing whilst the main group is doing the ride, then fine, each to their own.
Then you went & said that you're in your own back yard....
On the North Wales run, I was more than happy to sit right at the back. As it happens, the group naturally split in two, with the faster riders way off in front and one of those acting as a marker for the slower group trailing a fair distance behind. I was sat at the back of the slower group (and even then, we we're hanging around that much).
The reason I was happy to run tail end charlie is entirely because I was riding roads that I can ride any day of the week, at whatever pace I choose. If was actually quite fun. I was able to hang back behind traffic & open the throttle to play catchup. At one point I even stopped for fuel, and when I stopped, I was already at the back of the group. Then I got an absolute stomp on down a good road that I know well, and caught the group up within probably 10-15miles. Quiff did say that he thought I might of fallen off though :lol: so maybe I should of said that I was stopping, but hey ho.
Also, since you're in your own back yard, I'll sit back & wait for Rictus to mention that it was put up before for people to offer routes, and no-one really did, so others from further afield had to.
However, each to their own, no-one can force anyone to do anything. If you choose to wander off, your call & I won't think any less of you. If you choose to blast out in front of the ride & wait at certain points, possibly even avoiding roads you don't like in order to ride roads you favor, then again, your call.
Personally, I ain't fussed either way TBH. One person going MIA for a while is neither here or there.
dizzyblonde
22-06-07, 10:20 AM
more chance of a fill up on AR route I think. Also don't want to be in a situation like Dalesman last year when our guide round there took us on a ride to tanhill and broke down, on a harley, in a village with no phone reception or a toolkit. fortunately nice village shopman helped out. No chance of callout in a hurry though, really was the back of beyond. I like bimbling my bloke don't, but hey ho. A weekend away is wot i'm looking forward to.
vinney you have removed your post? Why, you made some good points ;)
I really do feel the need to post on this. The A65 is a rather small part of the ride out, a small run along it from the campsite in the morning, and then a little bit at the end to get everyone back fairly easily. The roads in between are, IMO a nice blend of twisty fun, with great views of the dales and places to stop & regroup.
While 4 of us were covering 600 miles of local roads between us in a day we found some really "taxing" and "interesting" roads, none of which were suitable for a 60 bike event. This is a ride that's got to be for everyone, if people who've been riding less than a year will be likely dropped off the edge of the road, into the front of a Landrover or into a dry stone wall, guess what, we didn't include it.
The time for consultation on the route was between February and the start of this month:
http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=83439 (http://forums.sv650.org/showthread.php?t=83439)
There isn’t a single post in there from yourself, so we were not able to assess a route that you submitted.
Deepest apologies if this is confrontational but I think a lot of people have tried really hard to make this work, and to make out before it's started that they've messed it up and missed an opportunity, I feel is a little unfair.
Finally the key to not loosing anyone on the ride out (pretty much Priority 1) is that we can count bikes in and out of stops. If you are going to appear and disappear, please make absolutely sure the back marker knows when you are, and are not included in the headcount!
Jambo
Tim in Belgium
22-06-07, 10:50 PM
Baaaahhh...
BernardBikerchick
23-06-07, 07:58 AM
teeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee tim we're going throughgigggggggggggglllllllllleeeeeeswick you HAVE TO COME then i can snog u again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
Baaaahhh...
... humbug or baahh black sheep? ;)
Guys,
Whilst personally I would have gone for a route that makes the best use of the roads we have available in the area. N/S peeps know what I mean. I have two personal issues.
1) I am in my own backyard. I feel from previous posts that there is a discipline as to how I will be expected to ride and with the collective, leaders, markers etc. Whereas I would prefer to simply ride at my own pace and meet up at set points.
2) this is my major issue. The use of the A65. I hate it. Too much double white line, tractors, trucks, queues, tourists, plods.
The overall route chosen is only a couple of hours out. We have a day. I am not a fast rider, but I do enjoy spirited riding. I am not sure that I would accept the discipline of riding with a large group.
tim, why did you not come up with a route when it was first posted? it seems that peeps from london had to go all the way up north to sort out a route, which would have been a bit of a headache?
the N/S was ace, probally a bit tricky for 50+ bikes, but people with local knowlage did not seem to be intrested in helping out with the route, so to complian now seems unfair.
:p
Will admit the A65 is never a good road but its a necessary evil when you consider where the camp site is, but you will only be on it for a short distance in the AM as the ride out starts and then about 15 miles back at the end of the day, 20 miles out of a 110 mile route isn't that bad
timwilky
23-06-07, 12:02 PM
Let me make it perfectly clear as to why I did not post a route.
I was under the impression that the ride-out was to have been the Lake district, whilst I have ridden there a number of times. I am not by any means knowledgable of the best biking roads of the lakes (Beyond the obligatory Kirkstone and beyond . Additionally I was under the impression that a number of individuals who I very much respect had offered to produce routes and I would bow to thier superior knowledge.
Suddenly the route is published and it is no longer the Lakes but the Yorkshire Dales and not at their best.
OK. Enough stirring from me. I will make my decision at the time
rictus01
23-06-07, 12:05 PM
Suddenly
I DON'T THINK SO.
BernardBikerchick
23-06-07, 01:44 PM
Let me make it perfectly clear as to why I did not post a route.
I was under the impression that the ride-out was to have been the Lake district, whilst I have ridden there a number of times. I am not by any means knowledgable of the best biking roads of the lakes (Beyond the obligatory Kirkstone and beyond . Additionally I was under the impression that a number of individuals who I very much respect had offered to produce routes and I would bow to thier superior knowledge.
Suddenly the route is published and it is no longer the Lakes but the Yorkshire Dales and not at their best.
OK. Enough stirring from me. I will make my decision at the time
tiiiiiiiiiimmmmmmmmmmmmmmm but I AM GOING so you HAVE to be there !!!!!!!! xxxxxxxxxxxxxx;) ;) :D :D :D
Quiff Wichard
24-06-07, 11:51 AM
see you there Tim..
respect to you for posting your thoughts mate-
look forward to seeing you again mate.
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