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Blue_SV650S
28-06-07, 02:18 PM
I have always fancied one of these. An RD500, RG500 etc etc ... a mate used to have 500 gamma and it was cool :) ... but I have never owned one, anyone own or ever owned one!?!?!
I might as well try ... if you currently own one, can I have a go (on a bin it buy it understanding obviously)?!!? I have any bike insurance, sot its all legit!! :smt045
Quite rare bikes nowadays tbh, so if you do bin it, you could be looking at a large wad of cash! :D
tigersaw
28-06-07, 03:13 PM
I breifly has a 500 triple like this one once:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1974-Kawasaki-H1-500-Triple-Widowmaker-Mach-III_W0QQitemZ330139381895QQihZ014QQcategoryZ6710QQ cmdZViewItem
Performance well behind a modern bike, and no brakes to talk about
Blue_SV650S
28-06-07, 03:27 PM
I breifly has a 500 triple like this one once:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1974-Kawasaki-H1-500-Triple-Widowmaker-Mach-III_W0QQitemZ330139381895QQihZ014QQcategoryZ6710QQ cmdZViewItem
Performance well behind a modern bike, and no brakes to talk about
That is not the sort of thing I meant ... I meant a GP rep bike ;)
Bloke at work has a 'kettle' :)
fizzwheel
28-06-07, 03:31 PM
There was an RD500 at Poole Quay a few tuesdays ago, it was absoloutly mint.
I'd love something like that sat in the garage for sunny sundays :cool:
suzsv650
28-06-07, 03:36 PM
i want one of these
http://www.cyclesoft.com/Images/Motorcycles/HondaNSR500V.jpg
suzsv650
28-06-07, 03:37 PM
o and one of these
http://www.yamaha-motor.co.jp/news/2002/08/02/images/tz250.jpg
suzsv650
28-06-07, 03:37 PM
o o and o ive got one of these
http://images.google.co.uk/url?q=http://www.classicbikes.co.uk/images/250yam5.jpg&usg=AFQjCNEFjmNyVPSoWhXS0m8i5Qf3rnBFpg
tigersaw
28-06-07, 03:50 PM
o o and o ive got one of these
http://images.google.co.uk/url?q=http://www.classicbikes.co.uk/images/250yam5.jpg&usg=AFQjCNEFjmNyVPSoWhXS0m8i5Qf3rnBFpg
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo nice
I have ridden (not owned) both RG and RD500 a lot, it was a long time ago.
They were fast (for the time) and the sound was just awesome (and still would be), I loved riding them but I suspect I love riding modern bikes more (apart from the sound).
I have recently been thinking about getting one, but they are pretty expensive for what they are (circa £3k for RD and £4k RG), expensive to fix when go wrong or crashed due to parts problems, look pretty dated but strangely sexy, and I bet would be a bit of a let down if you finally got one!
However, if you get one, can I have a go please :-)
I have always fancied one of these. An RD500, RG500 etc etc ... a mate used to have 500 gamma and it was cool :) ... but I have never owned one, anyone own or ever owned one!?!?!
I might as well try ... if you currently own one, can I have a go (on a bin it buy it understanding obviously)?!!? I have any bike insurance, sot its all legit!! :smt045
Never owned either, but I've ridden a few examples of both. Now I'm a dyed in the wool RD fan, having owned every configuration of 250, 350 and 400 made, but I never had any urge to buy an RD500 YPVS. However, if the chance ever came for me to own an RG500 gamma, then I would take the bloke's arm off.
For me the Gamma is the much better bike - it feels lighter, stronger engine, easier to flick into corners and has better brakes. the RD is ponderous yet flighty for what feels like a heavier bike, just doesn't deliver its power in the same evil way, has an 18 inch rear wheel and piddly brakes. They aren't too hot on reliability either compared to the Suzuki. I know that strokers are never reliable, but the Gamma is the better one of the two, and easier to work on as well.
What's the biggest stroker ever put in a mass produced modern(ish) motorcycle?
o o and o ive got one of these
http://images.google.co.uk/url?q=http://www.classicbikes.co.uk/images/250yam5.jpg&usg=AFQjCNEFjmNyVPSoWhXS0m8i5Qf3rnBFpg
Put yer 'RD 350' sidepanel stickers on straight and level - yours slope downwards to the front. :)
That is lovely, I've owned a few of those.
andyaikido
28-06-07, 05:05 PM
o and one of these
http://www.yamaha-motor.co.jp/news/2002/08/02/images/tz250.jpg
i want one of these
http://www.cyclesoft.com/Images/Motorcycles/HondaNSR500V.jpg
Definite trouser-tent material. :smt055:smt055:smt055
andyaikido
28-06-07, 05:09 PM
What's the biggest stroker ever put in a mass produced modern(ish) motorcycle?
Kawasaki did a 750 (H2? H3?) but that was back in the '70's I think. It was a bit much for the chassis according to what I've read.
Biggest modern ones are the 500GP reps but they're getting on a bit now.
Aprilia need to ressurect the Direct Injection stuff they were developing a make either a 500 or even litre stroker. Mmmmm...
Blue_SV650S
28-06-07, 06:26 PM
Kawasaki did a 750 (H2? H3?) but that was back in the '70's I think. It was a bit much for the chassis according to what I've read.
Biggest modern ones are the 500GP reps but they're getting on a bit now.
Aprilia need to ressurect the Direct Injection stuff they were developing a make either a 500 or even litre stroker. Mmmmm...
Yes, a 'kettle' ;)
http://www.suzukicycles.org/photos/GT/GT750/1971_GT750_prototype_500.jpg
Anyway, back to the GP500 type bikes, its the 80s retro 4 cylinder 2-smoke that does it for me ... teh engine note ... the smoke ... the 4 pipes 8) 8)
By modern standards they would be a p00o ride ... but that (like owning a kettle) isn't the point ... ;)
Blue_SV650S
28-06-07, 06:38 PM
o o and o ive got one of these
...
Nice example of an 350, I can appreciate that as I have had a few of that range ... I've had a YR5, RD250B and an RD250LC 8) ... but it's not the same avenue as the late 80s 500GP bikes 8) 8)
mister c
28-06-07, 06:59 PM
There is a bloke called Allen Millyard who builds some wierd and wonderfull machines.
He stuck 2 Kwak KH250 engines together and then didi the same with the 750 H2, so it was a 5 cylinder 1300cc beast.
http://www.naktc.com/%7Enaktc2/bikemonth/0503.JPG
This is how he built them http://www.saltmine.org.uk/kgb/mechshow.html
and this is how they sounded http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/graham_c/Movie/kawa.shtml
He also built these "little" beasts.
http://www.richmondlabs.com/Automotive/RichmondV8/V12_Kawa.jpg
http://www.richmondlabs.com/Automotive/RichmondV8/V8-Kwacker2.JPG
Blue_SV650S
28-06-07, 07:32 PM
There is a bloke called Allen Millyard who builds some wierd and wonderfull machines.
He stuck 2 Kwak KH250 engines together and then didi the same with the 750 H2, so it was a 5 cylinder 1300cc beast.
Now there is a man who evidently has access to some really cool workshop facilities!! 8)
northwind
28-06-07, 07:40 PM
http://rgv250.altervista.org/bimota_500pic.jpg
Vdue 500... See if you can make the fuelling work, Bimota couldn't :)
Endellion
28-06-07, 08:21 PM
o o and o ive got one of these
http://images.google.co.uk/url?q=http://www.classicbikes.co.uk/images/250yam5.jpg&usg=AFQjCNEFjmNyVPSoWhXS0m8i5Qf3rnBFpg
Is that yours? Its sweet, looks very Clean and shiny
Endellion
28-06-07, 08:23 PM
There is a bloke called Allen Millyard who builds some wierd and wonderfull machines.
He stuck 2 Kwak KH250 engines together and then didi the same with the 750 H2, so it was a 5 cylinder 1300cc beast.
http://www.naktc.com/%7Enaktc2/bikemonth/0503.JPG
This is how he built them http://www.saltmine.org.uk/kgb/mechshow.html
and this is how they sounded http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/graham_c/Movie/kawa.shtml
He also built these "little" beasts.
http://www.richmondlabs.com/Automotive/RichmondV8/V12_Kawa.jpg
http://www.richmondlabs.com/Automotive/RichmondV8/V8-Kwacker2.JPG
That guy has skill
Yes, a 'kettle' ;)
http://www.suzukicycles.org/photos/GT/GT750/1971_GT750_prototype_500.jpg
By modern standards they would be a p00o ride ... but that (like owning a kettle) isn't the point ... ;)
I had one of those soon after passing my test, it really was poo so I went back to my RD400 (I couldn't bear to sell it, which was lucky). My kettle was a slightly later one with twin discs, a 1973 L model if I remember right.
Ceri JC
29-06-07, 08:57 AM
I know they're 750, but the stroker I'd like most is the Kawasaki H2. I saw a gorgeously tricked up/modernised one in America, dropped clipons, single seat unit, bellypan, it looked like a real modern cafe racer.
Blue_SV650S
29-06-07, 10:53 AM
I feel we have had a slight de-rail here, but as I actually like the 70s 80s bikes, lets continue 8)
here is my old Elsie (LC) 8)
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb319/blue_sv650s/RDLC.jpg
suzsv650
29-06-07, 04:03 PM
you pleople.... i said i have one of these mine isnt that one ..
this is mine with my R6
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/7374/p1030137mb5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Shot with DMC-FX8 (http://profile.imageshack.us/camerabuy.php?model=DMC-FX8&make=Panasonic) at 2007-06-29
Brothers mate just sold his RD500, full race rep and race tuned by champion, he had it for nigh on 20 years, sold it for £3,000 :shock:
Was a class bit of kit though :thumright:
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