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[5v5 rider]

Hi Guys,

I've had to create a new profile as I wasnt able to post - something to do with my profile so created this new one and hey presto I am now able to post so I'm gonna stick with this one - back to the single figure posts again!!

Ta

Phil

[5v5 rider]

Wel....now I'm able to post again I was wanting to ask any of you out there if my back wheel looks out of alignment? I part ex'd my yellow curvy 2 weeks ago for my new blue 53 plate pointy and it did feel like the bike was pulling to the right (ie when I turned right the bike felt like it would turn further if i didnt counter steer halfway through the turn), I noticed when takin pics of the bike yesterday that the back wheel is not in line with the license plate? I'll post a pic up and you can tell me if I'm going mad - I didnt notice it on my old bike - is it out of alignment or am I going mad?

[Jester666]

Either the wheels out or the subframe is bent.

Has it been crashed/dropped?

[Alpinestarhero]

I agree with jester here - its out of line. Best to get it investigated by a specialist?

Matt

[5v5 rider]

I was worried someone would say this - I'm gonna take it to George White in Slough where I bought it the other week, I hope they can help?

Thanks Guys

[Alpinestarhero]

They should be able to - but i expect they'll turn round and say "na, its alright, they are all like that!"

Im sure there are some specialists who can give you a better opinon advertising in MCN / MCN Bikemart?

Matt

[Jester666]

They should be able to - but i expect they'll turn round and say "na, its alright, they are all like that!"

If they say this tell 'em you've got advice to the contrary!! :D

[5v5 rider]

They should be able to - but i expect they'll turn round and say "na, its alright, they are all like that!"

Im sure there are some specialists who can give you a better opinon advertising in MCN / MCN Bikemart?

Matt

Cheers Matt - I've checked MCN and only found a Bikecheck for £19.95 but thats not what I need (I think), I'm thinkin I need to take it round a qualified mech and get their opinion in writing - anyone know anybody who could do this in either the slough area or perival/greenford where I work?

Cheers

[kwak zzr]

if you bought the bike from George white they should have hpi the bike before they bought it in, usually they wont touch anything dodgy.

[kwak zzr]

might just be the can cocking out that makes it look like its not lining up.

[5v5 rider]

Yeah I would have hoped that George White being a pretty large firm that they would have HPI'd it thats why I didnt bother myself - now I'm panicking that I've bought a lemon:confused: !!

[5v5 rider]

might just be the can cocking out that makes it look like its not lining up.

The can does stick out a bit and once Ive got a new link pipe I'll get that sorted but wasnt a major issue for the mo but I took that pic totally square on...:(

[5v5 rider]

Just spoke to the chief mech at George White and told him it feels like it is out by an inch or so to which he just laughed off saying yeah yeah bring it round etc etc....knowing he prob wont do **** all to it - I'm really ****ed off with those guys - I dont have any confidence riding her and now I have to do my commute into central london today and tomorrow as he's not in tomorrow so the earliest he can do is wednesday whenever!!!

Pack of ba5tard5!!

*rant over*

[Mogs]

It does look way off, have you tried doing the string test, its described on here somewhere.

If your not intending to fit a tail tidy, relocating the reflector between the plate and its illumination makes a big difference. It only takes 15 minutes, to drill two holes and hacksaw off the bracket.

Good Luck with it.

[5v5 rider]

Not tried the string test yet but just by looking at the back eng straight on with it up on the paddock stand you can def tell its out by at least half inch, which is probably why I have to counter steer on every right hander for fear of the bike going all the way over to the right.....oh well..back to the cage for the next 2 days as now I know its out I dont feel confident to ride about on her..:(

[Kinvig]

Dude, splash out the cash to see if it's an ex-insurance write off.

Surely, the peace of mind will be worth it?

[FG1]

Silly question probarbly but, have you looked at the chain tesioner markers. Could be that they are well out.....

[5v5 rider]

Dude, splash out the cash to see if it's an ex-insurance write off.

Surely, the peace of mind will be worth it?

D'ya reckon they would be selling on dodgy ex write off bikes? I would have seriously doubted it until now but ya never know - if the bikecheck comes up as write off where would I stand with the dealers? would they give it the old 'sold as seen bull****'?

[5v5 rider]

Silly question probarbly but, have you looked at the chain tesioner markers. Could be that they are well out.....

Good point - I'll check it out now....

[5v5 rider]

Good point - I'll check it out now....

No...they're spot on..

[5v5 rider]

Dude, splash out the cash to see if it's an ex-insurance write off.

Surely, the peace of mind will be worth it?

Hi mate - just done the bike check and its all green so not a previous write off - youre right - it is a weight off but still vexed as to what the issue is - I guess i'll have to wait till wednesday....:smt022till then watch out for me in the astra auto cage on the a40 - I'll be the one going 'get out ma fookin way ya ba5tadr5!!!!!!!!!'

[Wideboy]

yeah defo looks like the sub frame from the pic, but it could be the numberplate bracket or something to do with that even if it is that still suggests a drop

[5v5 rider]

this may seem a bit daft but I want as ammo for when I go in tomorrow - I want to take some pictures of sv's back ends in to the shop to show them the difference between my bike and one with a straight back end - I just know they're gonna give it the old ' thats what its supposed to be like' - I did go in 2 weeks ago complaining that the steering seemed off and they just said 'oh its cos youre used to riding a different sort of bike-what sort of bike did you have? uh....another sv650 mate.....silence!"!

If anyone has any pics of their back end (SV's) the same as mine on the 1st page of the thread I'd really appreciate you posting it or pm'ing me so I can show them as a comparison??

Cheers all

[El Saxo]

Here you go mate. The pic isn't perfectly straight, probably the angle i was stood at or the plate isn't perfectly straight, but yours does look a lot further out to one side by comparison.

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/9113/p7240351qb5.th.jpg (http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p7240351qb5.jpg)

[5v5 rider]

Here you go mate. The pic isn't perfectly straight, probably the angle i was stood at or the plate isn't perfectly straight, but yours does look a lot further out to one side by comparison.

http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/9113/p7240351qb5.th.jpg (http://img170.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p7240351qb5.jpg)

Cheers mate - much appreciated!!

[5v5 rider]

Right.......just got back from the dealers and the outcome apparently was that the 'seat unit' was off centre - they were lookin at it for a while and looked like they were stumped - i sat down for about 45 mins and then the chief mech comes up and says 'all done' - it was the seat unit that was taking it out - we've done a string test and it appears to be fine now (they did a string test when it 1st came in before they found the seat unit issue). So the 1st test shows out of line but the 2nd comes up fine? as far as what he told me he hasnt adjust the wheel alignment of the swingarm so how could the test be any different now?(I didnt think of this till I got home with the bike). Anyway the back end def looked straighter when I was at the shop but by the time I got home and went over quite a few speed bumps I looked at it again and I dont know if its just me being paranoid but it looks off again. I took some more pics ...see what you think?? Oh and I put my stock can back on just to make sure its not the can pushin out that makes it look sqewif..

PLS ignore the crooked paddock stand!!

[El Saxo]

1st pic looks like you were stood slightly to the left of the bike so it could be the perspective of the pic (look at the mirrors, you'll see what i mean). As the 2nd pic is closer there aren't as many reference points to check so it could be exaggerating the effect, but it does still look a bit off-centre.

If they've tested the alignment in front of you though at the dealer though then I would have thought that it would be pretty accurate, but then I'm quite mechanically ignorant. :smt102

I'm sure someone will be along shortly who knows their stuff...

[5v5 rider]

Thanks for looking mate - I see what you mean by the perspective of the 1st pic - I may just be being paranoid now but the feel of the bike DOES feel completely different and somewhat strange - I did initially go back to the dealer 2 weeks ago cos I felt that the handlebars were off being it felt like the bike was steering to the right but they proved no prob with the bars at that point, I can only presume the steering issue is related to the back end?

Oh well.......I'm gonna give her a good thrashin tonight and see how it feels!!

[zunkus]

Draw a straight line on the floor to take a straight picture of the back and position the camera on that line as well for less distortion.

I aligned the front/back wheel by using two pieces of aluminum lengths tied one on each side of the rear wheel running to the front wheel. These were off the ground by using two shoe boxes at each end. The bike used to steer badly before I aligned the back to the front. Better now. Also looked similar to your pics before.

[5v5 rider]

Draw a straight line on the floor to take a straight picture of the back and position the camera on that line as well for less distortion.

I aligned the front/back wheel by using two pieces of aluminum lengths tied one on each side of the rear wheel running to the front wheel. These were off the ground by using two shoe boxes at each end. The bike used to steer badly before I aligned the back to the front. Better now. Also looked similar to your pics before.

Thanks for the tip mate - I'll try your suggestion but if I find the alignment I'll be speaking to the dealers again!:smt013

[5v5 rider]

Right.....long story short....the rear wheel alignment was out...WAY OUT!! I took her to an insurance write off company to get the frame and everything measured fully and it turns out it was within the suzuki parameters so that was good, and when he checked the rear wheel alignment using the lasers it was out about 3/4 inch from front to back which is huge....this meant the tyre wear was shockinly bad down one side on front and rear makin it really hard to gauge any corner as the tyre was going where it wanted to go, all in all £100 spent but I now have a bike thats worth its money!! all sorted....my next step is get a laser tool for adjusting the chain as thats where it seems to have gone wrong - being that the standard chunk of metal that suzuki supply you with is as useful as a chocolate fireguard and can be way out either side without you even knowing by lookin at it. M & P for me for a laser me thinks!!:p

[kwak zzr]

glad your all sorted and now your mind can rest:)

[zunkus]

...my next step is get a laser tool for adjusting the chain as thats where it seems to have gone wrong - being that the standard chunk of metal that suzuki supply you with is as useful as a chocolate fireguard and can be way out either side without you even knowing by looking at it. M&P for me for a laser me thinks!!:p

Laser tool for adjusting the chain. This is quite interesting. I too find I have to adjust the alignment quite often. I think its the rubbish roads we have here which rattle and shakes the bike quite a bit which causes this. So what is this tool exactly and how is it used?

[yorkie_chris]

I promise you it will cost more than a lump of 3x2. Was going to suggest the wheel alignment before i saw it was sorted, on my 125 the markers are all to pot and don't tell you a thing, the only way to be sure of alignment is with a straightedge or using a tapemeasure.

[El Saxo]

Result! Glad you got it sorted mate :)

[tigersaw]

Laser tool for adjusting the chain. This is quite interesting. I too find I have to adjust the alignment quite often. I think its the rubbish roads we have here which rattle and shakes the bike quite a bit which causes this. So what is this tool exactly and how is it used?

Are we referring to this?

http://www.mandp.co.uk/productInfo.aspx?catRef=537904

Looks pretty expensive at £50, I reckon I could make something as good from a £10 laser spirit level.

[5v5 rider]

Are we referring to this?

http://www.mandp.co.uk/productInfo.aspx?catRef=537904

Looks pretty expensive at £50, I reckon I could make something as good from a £10 laser spirit level.

Let me know how you get on withe the £10 level as I think £50 is a bit steep as well:D...