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Elio
27-07-07, 10:07 AM
:help:

Scorpion is seriously looking at gettin a Honda Deauville. I would appreciate your comments


:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Stu
27-07-07, 10:30 AM
Me too, can we get a bulk discount?

scorpion
27-07-07, 10:45 AM
Nice one Stu :D

Stu
27-07-07, 11:11 AM
<<<< Are they for me? Oh you shouldn't have :love:

rictus01
27-07-07, 11:26 AM
good solid performer, bit fiddley to work on as you have to remove plastics to get to anything, but fairly robust, although it has to be said they are a little dull to ride in comparision to the SV, definately not the sporty end of the range.

Cheers Mark.

embee
27-07-07, 12:23 PM
SV? Deauville?

I've got one of each :D

Different horses for different courses. Apples and bananas.

Useful forum here
http://www.deauvilleuk.org/forum/index.php

There are/have been a few minor issues, but generally speaking they're pretty tough old birds.

Heavy. Heavy to move about manually, but fine once on the road. Pretty much rock solid handling, they like all the usual decent tyres, the OE Mich Macadams were rubbish, I've had Conti RA and Metz Z6, the Z6 wins for me. Others really like BT020 or 021, (Bridgestone recommended an 011E for the front).

Fuel pumps can be troublesome on the 650, but cheap reliable fix is a Facet pump.

Brakes became linked Nissin items at 2002. Earlier Brembo tended to give some trouble with front discs, but either work well when right.

2002 saw slightly bigger panniers, slightly better headlight, some engine internal improvements, some emission gizmos.

New NT700 has a lot more torque and some useful extra power, bigger panniers again, 4-valve FI top end replaces old 3-valve/2-plug carb heads, oil cooler, better lights/instruments etc.

Paint falling off engines plagued them around 2002-2005.

Economy is decent, 55-60mpg typical for 650.

Like the SV the carbs need to be balanced properly. Not as smooth as an SV engine, but fine when set up right.

I really like mine, did a holiday in the Dolomites in June. It's what they're best at.

tigersaw
27-07-07, 02:18 PM
I had one, think it was a 99.

Didn't like it, no overtaking grunt, and very blowy at speed. I believe there are plenty of aftermarket bigger screens for this.
Standard luggage only big enough for sarnies, but you can get bigger lids.
Nobody would go pillion with me.

Build quality mind is in a different league to other bikes, you cant fault it.

RhythmJunkie
27-07-07, 03:13 PM
Not owned one but have ridden a friends, he say's and I have to agree. Far too heavy for horse power. Good fuel economy for a gentle right wrist, 70mpg+ is easy. Excellent build quality. Fairing good 'cept in a crosswind. Tyre wear generally good but if you push it through the curves they wear quick because its a heavy bike. Not much lean before it scrapes terra firma!

For a touring tool its great! Lots of quality luggage space too. Very comfy seat. If suspension is set soft for max comfort it handles like its made of plasticene!

Lots of bike for the money as you can get excellent second hand ones in mint condition for a song.

muffles
27-07-07, 06:30 PM
Not owned one but have ridden a friends, he say's and I have to agree. Far too heavy for horse power. Good fuel economy for a gentle right wrist, 70mpg+ is easy. Excellent build quality. Fairing good 'cept in a crosswind. Tyre wear generally good but if you push it through the curves they wear quick because its a heavy bike. Not much lean before it scrapes terra firma!

For a touring tool its great! Lots of quality luggage space too. Very comfy seat. If suspension is set soft for max comfort it handles like its made of plasticene!

Lots of bike for the money as you can get excellent second hand ones in mint condition for a song.

Is it just me that doesn't know how much a song is :oops:

northwind
27-07-07, 06:48 PM
If I wanted a bike purely for transport, it'd be a Deuville I'd get, they're incredibly good at what they do.

yorkie_chris
27-07-07, 07:31 PM
I'm also considering one for the joys of winter commuting.

How much would a ratty one go for and how do they handle 33bhp restriction?

Ta

Chris

Stig
28-07-07, 07:20 AM
I bought an '88 for £500 to use as commuter bike.

It's as Embee said. It does what it says on the tin. It does it bloody well too. Keep on top of the front brake servicing and no problems. They work quite well.

When it's dry I use B roads to work. About 16 miles of them. I've had both pegs scrape the floor without trying. It's a heavy lump to push around but it is also a very well balanced bike and you don't feel the weight at all once you get going. The built in panniers are next to useless as standard so I got bigger lids for them which is a little better. I only really use it for getting me to work and back and for that it's brilliant.

I get 200 miles and more out of the 17 litre tank. It handles very well on Z6's but I am about to put some Continental touring tyres on and stick with the motorway commute. £100 the pair.

If you get an early carbed one, you'll need to make sure the carbs are balanced, else it struggles to start and idle in the mornings. I have also found that the carbs go out of balance rather quicker than I'd like. With it being a faired bike you have to take off the faring and the tank and the air filter housing before you get to the balance screw, so bit of a lot of work for 1 minute of balancing. Jo knows as she did it the last time. :lol:

Very happy with mine. I bought it for a specific purpose and it does it extremely well. I dropped it 4 times trying to get up the hill when it snowed and the only damage was to the water pump housing which had an existing repaired crack which consequently started to leak again. Other than normal servicing parts I have not had to pay out for any repairs. It's been a solid bus and serves me well. It'll cruise at around 90mph easily, and I've regularly had 3 figures on the speedo without any concerns.

John 675
28-07-07, 08:49 AM
:rolleyes: Will you get one with this RACE REP lol, :rolleyes:
http://www.ukemergency.co.uk/police/dsc06725.jpg

Dicky Ticker
28-07-07, 09:01 AM
As I have reached a more mature age than most on this site and not much interested in "scratching" but more touring orientated I was considering buying the new 2007 as a "Last Bike". My only concern being would I notice the power/ease of riding comparison to my Sprint ST?. I suppose the only way to find out would be to have an extended test ride but nobody local has one for test
My other choice in this class was the 800 BMW but the price difference with all the trimmings is considerable against the Honda

RhythmJunkie
28-07-07, 12:39 PM
Yo muffles...."going for a song" means selling for singing a song instead of money, I think it may have originated in ale houses, if you couldn't afford to pay you could sing to entertain and so pay that way!

muffles
28-07-07, 01:57 PM
Yo muffles...."going for a song" means selling for singing a song instead of money, I think it may have originated in ale houses, if you couldn't afford to pay you could sing to entertain and so pay that way!

Ah ok got it...so basically they are cheap :D

embee
28-07-07, 05:48 PM
...I was considering buying the new 2007 as a "Last Bike". My only concern being would I notice the power/ease of riding comparison to my Sprint ST?. ...

Look at the Deauville forum,
http://www.deauvilleuk.org/forum/index.php
there were quite a few "early impressions" a year or so back when the 700 first came out. You can always ask questions there, though it's an audience with vested interests!

On the European meeting this year (Deauville-meets-Deauville, D-m-D 2007) http://www.deauville-meets-deauville.com/dmd-2007/start/default.php?lg=en
the 700s definitely had a lot more mid range grunt than the 650s coming out of the hairpins up the Stelvio! The combined effect of bigger capacity and 4-valve/FI has given it 20% more torque than the 650, very noticeable.

On the issue of 650 prices, something presentable in the 98-2000 era could probably be in the £1500 range, cheaper ones down at £1k. There are some tatty (e.g. broken plastics) ones at £600 up.

Courier ones might have slipping clutches, the clutch pack was improved at 2002 (V2).

The Deauville was called NT650V, the previous model without the fairing etc (but shaft drive) was the NTV650. Earlier still the chain drive ones were the Bros/Hawk variants (alloy frames, single side swingarm).
Deauvilles started at 98 with the NT650V-W, then -X,-Y, then they became NT650V-1, V-2 etc. The facelifted ones start at V2 (like mine!)

scorpion
01-08-07, 06:29 PM
Thanks for your input guys. I like the look of the race rep version:rolleyes: I could pootle around Jellystone park on it and badger Yogi and Boo Boo :D

arenalife
01-08-07, 08:31 PM
I've got an NT700 for commuting and touring, it's a great bike as long as you understand what it's all about. I don't mean to insult it at all when I say it's like a 2 wheeled car, comfy, starts always, predictable, easy to ride, easy to clean, shaft drive and unbelievably practical. I can call in Tesco on the way home and put 4 carrier bags of shopping in it and still filter through the jams. It's quick enough and has excellent top gear roll on, more than the spec and reputation would suggest. 90mph on the motorway is relaxed and super-comfy, handling is good too. It's nice to go the beach and be able to put your bike gear in the panniers and walk around in normal clothes instead of power ranger kit.

It's a bike for going places, not for just going out on if you know what I mean. It's not boring but it's not exhilarating either, just does what it says on the tin!