Taxi driver a*sehole, and SV is a tank!!

[ScottishRawker]

Hey guys,

was on my way to work 2day, and at the new roundabout at sheilds road (the one under the motorway) (In SCOTLAND, same post i made on a different forum)

I joined and went round, signal left, look over left shoulder, look forewards, M*therF*cking taxi right in my way,

Emergency stop and WHACK, into car door.

Bike came off better than the Car, Bloody hell SV is a tough bike and thank god for crash bungs.

Got into work and asked if i could go home for the fact i will have constant people trying to be cheeky and i'd loose my place and kill them!!

Doubt will go thru insurance as i cant afford a claim at 18, and the fact the car took the brunt of it.

B*stard didnt know his highway code, that you give way to whats already on the roundabout.

Thankfully a blue curvy came down the sliproad after the taxi and gave the driver the biggest bollocking ever including, "Did you not even hear the bike?"

Anyway, im ok apart from a bit of a soar leg (caught between bike and car)

but here you go, the pics!!

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a105/rawkguitarist/DSC00113.jpg

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Ohh yeah look the taxi plate aint even valid!!

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[skidmarx]

What a To**&r!:smt103
Are you sure your ok?
Are you sure you don't want to go through the insurance co?
Seems to me your 100% in the right, I understand how you feel about involving the insurance co, you always seem to come of worse, but you can claim on his policy not yours! You will have to declare the accident in the future for a few years, BUT you declare it as a 'no fault' accident or something so it shouldn't load your premium. And I'm sure you will need to claim for repairs to your bike plus your helmet/gloves/leathers.
Why should you pay?
Nice bike by the way.....
Good luck

[sarah]

Ouch. You'll probably feel more sore tomorrow:(

I agree with what skidmarx says about claiming on your insurance. If the accident isn't your fault you shouldn't suffer. Were there any witnesses?

[ScottishRawker]

Getting the wheel checked 2moro but i rode it home and it was fine.

i didnt go on the ground, i was still standing so no damage to gear.

if there aint any suspension or wheel damage, then the bikes fine with no damage, so no point claiming for a slight scuff on the nose (not visible unless looking for it)

[ScottishRawker]

Ouch. You'll probably feel more sore tomorrow:(

I agree with what skidmarx says about claiming on your insurance. If the accident isn't your fault you shouldn't suffer. Were there any witnesses?

yeah the guy right behind me was a perfect witness,

there aint any damage to claim for (unless wheels and suspension)

as i missed a nights work i may phone and say i want compensation or will report his taxi is not valid! lol

[Luckypants]

I would advise reporting this to the cops. It's a taxi, they often sail close to the wind with car tax, MOT, insurance etc. The out of date private hire plate is a bad sign, most councils insist on doing the MOT when the vehicle is 'plated' if the plate has expired then his MOT might be to. And as these things go annually, he might have insurance that has just finished (or just started to be fair).

Hate to be on a downer, but there is a chance this will be a crappy one.

Get in touch with the guy and see if he wants to settle for cash. If it is a jockey car owned by a firm (as opposed to owner-driver) they would be much more likely to shell out the cash than claim. But get it sorted ASAP.

[Warthog]

Bad luck mate, but I agree that the police might need to be informed as it might turn dodgy and you seem to be clearly in the right.

[fizzwheel]

I agree with Luckypants, report it. If that was me and that was my bike, I'd want the scuff repaired even if it was small.

Sounds to me like you werent at fault so why should you suffer even a small scrape because of it.

If you report it and it does turn nasty, then at least you'll have done everything right, that Taxi driver might tell his insurance company a load of rubbish, get in there first with the truth just in case.

Also it might make the Taxi driver think a bit more if he's faced with fixing the taxi and your bike, the next biker he takes out might not be so lucky...

Glad you're OK though.

[Nostrils]

Glad you are OK. I agree with some others that you should report this to the police because of the out of date licence, whether in use at the time or not. I would also contact White Dalton Solicitors on this, being bike enthusiasts they will know all the ins and outs!

The picture told me a thousand stories and if that happened anywhere near Heathrow I wouldnt even hesitate getting the police involved because too many so-called taxis around these parts look too dodgy to be properly legal.

Good Luck in what you decide to do.

Ride Safe

Phil

[jim@55]

I stay just up the road from that and it looks like one of the hire firms on the prw..i ran a private hire car for years and from experience those drivers can b a nightmare to deal with..as for not being licenced i.e plate expired,you can still display an out of date plate IF your car has been through a recent test and your waiting on a new plate ,,its gdc were dealing with here ,who are famed for ineptitude/generally takin their time and loads of faffing about,but if you want to claim itl b a long winded process ,personally i wouldnt bother .the bike is pretty much ok ,your ok and his car is off the road:cool:its more hassle at his end ,he'll have to get it re-inspected once fixed and if the car looks dodgy in any way ,they will fail it/not re-licence it ..gdc are very tight on that kinda stuff now ,thats why most taxis are newer cars ,and the 'older' cars are being phased out the back door .anyway im waffling now;)

[ScottishRawker]

Thanks to everyone, and specially you Jim.

iI'm getting the forks checked 2moro and wheel, if theres nothing wrong there ill pass on filing an accident for the fact that my insurance will go up even if its on his insurance due to the fact im 18 and they will still think its my fault for being young,

[gettin2dizzy]

Glad you're ok!
You legally have to report this to the police regardless of whether you're pressing charges etc - and preferably within 24 hours! IF it was his fault then you should definitely claim, I don't think anyone on here would disagree with that. The fact his license was out of date will only help you. However- were you in the right lane turning left?!

[ScottishRawker]

i was in the correct lane for going round the roundabout and turning off.

i phoned the police but they said all their cars were busy so we were to exchange details and get on our way!

[ScottishRawker]

the guy in that photo wasnt THE taxi driver that i hit lol but he was one of his mates that turned up (he was A taxi driver tho), took the taxi drivers side so i went;

"if you came from over there how would u get to here??"

and he said exactly what i did lol.

[RhythmJunkie]

I would have said claim but what for exactly cos you & the bike are fine, he is the one with a pelican! (hefty bill).

I'm claiming at the moment for a torn leather but only on principle as the driver said he'd pay for my torn jacket and then decided to play silly buggers. So off to the sol's we go, and months later, dah di dah but you have to do it don't you? You can't just let them get away with it?
A few feet or a few mph difference and you could have been seriously injured....you were lucky dude!

He was definately absolutely in the wrong. He 'must' give way to traffic already on the roundabout, so pulling out and hitting you was careless driving.

[LouLou]

Well if it wasn't your fault then you've got every right to have your bike returned to the condition it was in prior to the accident...even if the only damage is a little scuff...it's worth getting it sorted out properly thru the insurance...

[Tiger 55]

OMG! *waves hand in front of face like american girl*

I saw you coming down Shields Road yesterday, must've been about 20 seconds before the accident! Me and my wee girl were waving like mentalists from a bus...

You have to report this mate, to your insurance at the very least and the cops to be on the safe side. Have to have to have to. The taxi driver will try to shag you. (No offence Jim!)

"Male, 20's!"
You sexist pig.

[STRAMASHER]

Glad you are ok,fella. Been down there once , and it was whacky races. New road layout = new car driving stupidity!

You only need to report it to the cops if somebody was physically hurt. If the bike shop says A-ok on your front end, (they usually go over the whole bike with a fine toothcomb,££££) I would not be bothering to claim and pay out a big excess for plastics IF you can live with a few cosmetic scrapes.

If you have a dinked wheel or bent forks.......... claim the bastid for everything (loss of earnings,inconvenience,bike gear) and report him to the cops and get an "incident number" for your insurance company.


On a lighter note, looking at the 3rd photie of you standing by your fallen bike ,you should really get some proper biking boots and trousers ;) :)

Main thing again tho',its good you are not hurt.


Andy

[RhythmJunkie]

You sexist pig

:roll: :D

[ScottishRawker]

2day i decided i will make a claim, as theres quite alot of damage, Forks aint bent but lots of scratches and broken bits of plastic. gloves have holes aswell.

my jeans are RS kevlar ones and yeah i need new boots lol.

spoke to my insurance and they say my premium will not go up if i claim since its on his insurance, and due to his sheer arrogance i am not hesitating on claiming.

[RhythmJunkie]

Good man...best of luck...not that you need it! ;)
When someone does something really shtupid like that I think they should be drugs tested!!!

[Tiger 55]

Good decision mate. It'll probably drag on for ever (just ask Thumper21) but you're doing the right thing.

[ScottishRawker]

well its not written off, it still runs (apart from found out yesterday the clutch was burnt out :( )

so i can still ride it, i just want to get the money to get it back to perfect.

[jim@55]

well if your gear/bike is damaged more than first thought i say claim the ****,,,but dont hold your breath,,at least you can carry on using the bike while the claim is going on...insurance co's and taxi drivers:rolleyes:have a bit of a rep for trying to wriggle put of things ,,but your bang on o this one ,,no grey areas here if it turns into a blame slinging exercise(by him)use ur witness and get the city council involved (common sense really )..did he have someone in the car as a passenger(gdc are VERY unimpressed if you have a bump while a punter is in the car )it will affect his standing with gtng a re-license ,,so make some noise and dont back down;)

[Redster]

hmmm... those pictures dont tell the full story do they? cause it looks like a smidsy, but could be construed as a 'i cut across lanes to turn left' situation. Mind you i dont know the r-about and your bike could have been pushed to the right, although in that situation maybe you would expect a rear end? You were indicating i assume? Sorry for the negative slant.

Good luck tho matey, and i'm glad your ok dude, sock it to em, just dont show the ins company those images. :o

[RhythmJunkie]

You were indicating i assume? Sorry for the negative slant.


Not required. You must 'give way' to traffic already on the roundabout and this is not a grey area and cannot be misinterpreted. If there is a vehicle coming from the right you 'must' let it pass unless you can safely pull out without causing that vehicle to slow down or heed its progress!

Just because there are two lanes the rules don't change...sorry! ;)

It helps with the flow of traffic if a driver keeping to the middle lane keeps indicating right until they pass the exit before the one they want to use, then indicate left and move over into the left lane when its safe to do so ready to leave the roundabout.
It appears Rawker started moving over to the left lane too early but that doesn't give the taxi driver the right to pull straight out regardless!

There's no such thing as an accident...only human error and its very rarely 100% the other persons fault!

[Philbo]

Not required. You must 'give way' to traffic already on the roundabout and this is not a grey area and cannot be misinterpreted. If there is a vehicle coming from the right you 'must' let it pass unless you can safely pull out without causing that vehicle to slow down or heed its progress!

Just because there are two lanes the rules don't change...sorry! ;)

It helps with the flow of traffic if a driver keeping to the middle lane keeps indicating right until they pass the exit before the one they want to use, then indicate left and move over into the left lane when its safe to do so ready to leave the roundabout.
It appears Rawker started moving over to the left lane too early but that doesn't give the taxi driver the right to pull straight out regardless!

There's no such thing as an accident...only human error and its very rarely 100% the other persons fault!

:winner:
What he said!
And don't be tempted to go down the road of a "cash settlement", or the "my mates a mechanic" road. Insist on using the insurance, and using a proper Suzuki garage of your preference.

I've had a couple no fault bumps in recent years in both car and bike, and even the nicest most appologetic folk can be ar*****es when it comes to parting with cash.

I found myself running about like a diddy getting different quotes, having to spend money on Taxi's while my car was in for qoutes. Then getting the "could you get a quote from this place where my mate works"...Then to top it off the bugger doesn't turn up with the cash after the repair, and stops answering/returning phonecalls and messages.
A week after paying for the repairs from my own pocket so the garage would release my car, I left a message on her mobile saying "if I don't hear from you by lunch tomorrow i'm contacting the insurance and they can deal with all this". Amazingly her mobile phone was just back from repair that day, and I had my cash the following day.

[Ceri JC]

Sorry to hear about this. Circumstances sound similar to my own experience of someone pulling out on me on a roundabout. My case was a bit tricky as I didn't actually hit them (I crashed whilst avoiding them), but I managed to get 100% in the end. Best of luck getting it sorted ASAP.

[ScottishRawker]

back from a breif holiday, just waiting for my bike back on saturday from garage (getting new clutch as old one burnt out) told them i wouldnt need it till saturday.

Then im to phone 4th dimension who will take it, inspect it and repair it. then i will also get a hire bike while mines getting fixed :D

To people above, Both lanes come off here (on the other side of the taxi it shows with arrows)

i was signalling so thats not a problem, he has no grounds to stand on so really hope for his sake he doesnt try it!

[The Basket]

Bad news on the bike Ad.:smt089

But you were unhurt and thats the main thing.

Clutch burnt out? It was ok when I had it:p

I am a bit knowledgable with the insurance so there is a pool of free advice for ya. Take this guy to the cleaners and dont accept any fault. Only way he gonna learn.

[markmoto]

man glad your ok! nice dent you put in the taxi door there sir full marks for that! :-) svs with crash bungs do seem tough.

[AndyW]

I would not be bothering to claim and pay out a big excess for plastics IF you can live with a few cosmetic scrapes.


A no fault claim shouldn't cost you anything, including the excess. Last (and only one in recent memory) no fault claim I had, car went into the back of my car while stopped at junction (well its a berlingo so van really), trashed "boot" door, I didn't pay a penny, including car hire while mine was being fixed, no excess charge, no loss of no claims (but then I insured myself against that anyway).

[ScottishRawker]

Well well,

here we are,

over a year and 3 months,

and i finally got a phone call from my lawyer saying "there is a cheque being written for you today from the other party"

I'm getting £2.6k including money to replace damaged clothes.

took its time but im happy its finally over!

time to upgrade the front forks and get me some lowers!!!
maybe even spray the forks black!

Adam

[plowsie]

Good outcome in the end :D Glad its finally sorted :)

[philbut]

i remember reading this the first time round. Glad you got it sorted. What a bloomin wait though, I'd have been well p*ssed off.

[Dave20046]

report it. Probably didn't have insurance anyway...

[plowsie]

Dave - One word "Date" ;)

[BBadger]

At least your alright.
They are bloody strong lumps .... the only thing is get the forks checked.
I thought mine where fine and drove it home and to the shop to get it checked, turns out there was a fat crease through both not just a bend, but it still felt fine to drive.
So be careful with it.

[yorkie_chris]

Not bad for a bit of a scratch :-D

[ScottishRawker]

that money doesnt even include the bike repair :P that was done by a different company,

and i noticed a fair few are thinking this is new,

wish i could edit the original post!

Adam

[Tiger 55]

Good man, no sense starting a new thread!

Anyway, result. See you this weekend then?

[ScottishRawker]

whats going on this weekend?

i have some photo work on saturday night, but what else is planned? :S

[phil24_7]

Congrats on the amazing outcome. 2.6K plus repair fee, what insurance were you with?

Regards

[Philbo]

Result! 2.6K and the bike repaired? Sounds good to me!

[ScottishRawker]

this claim was under bennetts, but it took long enough that i decided i didnt want to be with them this year, plus they were £200 over the cheapest.

can't wait to get the check this week,

then lowers will be ordered, plus suspension + oil.

get some new draggin jeans.

then pay off my holiday

[sv_rory]

It really annoys me when i hear stories like this, i have taxi drivers on a regular basis pull out of junctions on me and make my heart come out of my rear end !

around milton keynes there is a lot of roundabout and junctions, and for some reason it always seems to be taxi drivers that come skidding to a stop at roundabouts and just pulling out of junctions.

i had a massive go at this lady who came skidding to a stop right behind me at a roundabout a couple of days ago and her car was no lie about half an inch off the back of my bike.

i must admit i wasnt pleasent but it really angers me why people dont pay attention or look where there going. I got hit up the back a couple of years back by an old cogger who was more interested in the convo with his wife than he was stopping for the traffic at the rounsabout.

at least your ok fella ! i would seriously report the driver to the local taxi licensing department at the council because they take things like this serious and pull them in for interview.

If i had my way i would take these silly gits off the road for good, maybe then people would pay attention because they wouldnt want to lose there license for good.

[Dave20046]

Yep we all know someone a cabbie's hit. A lot are illegal and a lot are threatening at the scene by the sounds of it. I know someone who even ended up in the back seat of a cab when it did an illegal uturn infront of him.

Wish I had some monies to repair my bike with :( Someone knocked me off about 9 months ago and ****ed my back and neck up (necks back to normal now) and I've stil not received a penny. The guy was blastin out reggae and his car stunk of weed but the police wouldn't respond and I went to the station the next day and they refused to deal with me saying no crime had been commited...

[sv_rory]

the police arent really bothered to be honest, my friend was hit by a drink driver a couple of years back and they wouldnt come out to the scene. three phone calls later we ended up saying there was an injury and the road was completely blocked and then they came out !

An insurance guy i know was telling me that a lot of cab drivers do it deliberately because they have to replace their vehicles now after so many miles. They go for bikers and the elderly. a typical one apparently is they reverse into the front of you and claim that you rear ended them.

I have got an e-mail soemwhere i will see if i can post it up if i find it, it was from a lady from a bike club that she had got from the police warning the bikers around milton keynes to watch the taxi drivers because they were all doing it.

They weren't allowed to give any details however we were told that the "SKY" is blue !

[ScottishRawker]

Well i have today received the cheque, so this claim is FINALLY over!!

put it into the bank 2moro, then order lowers and get the suspension done,
maybe a few other bits if i feel like it.

there will no doubt be a photo thread once its all done!

I have to say, thanks to everyone who made comments in here, and helped advise me through it.
Adam

[Lozzo]

the police arent really bothered to be honest, my friend was hit by a drink driver a couple of years back and they wouldnt come out to the scene. three phone calls later we ended up saying there was an injury and the road was completely blocked and then they came out !
!

Get a friend to phone in from a call-box and say they've seen an accident and think one of the people at the scene is getting agitated and brandishing a handgun. You'll soon have police all over the place and it won't be you who did the phoning.

[The Basket]

Not bad.

With that cheque it seems you got a free bike!

[thefallenangel]

nice one. New Oil and Springs thread and GSXR rear shock bolts thread number 1000000000000000 here we come although with than money a Hagon would be peanuts.