dutch speeding ticket - do I need to pay?

[weazelz]

I have just received a dutch speeding ticket for an offence on 1st June this year. 119kmh in a 100kmh limit on the amsterdam ring-road at 03:30 in the morning in a hire car. I know I did it, I remember seeing the speed camera too late & being glad - wrongly? - that I wasn't in the UK

sooo .. am I obliged to pay it? it's all in dutch so I'm just wondering whether it's an automatic thing that's been sent out not realizing that I'm in the UK

~andy

[Stu]

Have the hire co. got your credit card details?
I don't know if they would be lumbered with the fine & pass it on to you with a big admin charge.
Probably not though. ;)
HTH

[ScottishRawker]

I think its due to it being a hire car the fine will have gone to the company then they said "twas this person speeding !" but dont know if you need to pay or not.

[NadineDieBiene]

Hi there, no worries, nothing can happen: Although we are in the EU, countries cannot charge you if you have a foreign driving licence, really.

I rode through a speed cam in Bristol, but I have a German licence, so I got the first letter, replied as good as I could, even putting down my licence number - and the second letler said that they will drop charges.

(Now I am in Germany with a British number plate - meaning I can park where ever the hell I want...)

regards, Nadine

[Warthog]

My Dad got one from Germany when he lives in Belgium, he ended up paying it. The Germans have been known to get a bit aggressive on occasions... :)

[muffles]

Don't have to pay it but don't go back to Holland again...

[Moffatt666]

God bless the EU - 20 member tsates and 200 different licencing systems!

[hoodlum]

if you fail to pay a fine in the EU states; and I know this from experience (not me m'lud) you can be arrested on re-entry, particularly at airports. The initial speeding fines will have multiplied in amount, court fees will have been added, and I know of one person who spent ages in jail on arriving in Germany for just such an offence of not paying because it was a foreign speeding fine.

So, Nadine - that's the sort of thing you could end up with if you park illegally in Germany - Why haven't you got german plates? and why aren't you paying german taxes for cars? You can only reside for so long in a country on your importing countries plates before you have to re-register your car (export happens from the day you take it out of the country of origin - unles syou're ona very long "holiday?")

[toonyank]

I have just received a dutch speeding ticket for an offence on 1st June this year. 119kmh in a 100kmh limit on the amsterdam ring-road at 03:30 in the morning in a hire car. I know I did it, I remember seeing the speed camera too late & being glad - wrongly? - that I wasn't in the UK

sooo .. am I obliged to pay it? it's all in dutch so I'm just wondering whether it's an automatic thing that's been sent out not realizing that I'm in the UK

~andy

Well I don't know if the hire company will try and get money out of you but one thing is for certain, it was a driving offence so someone WILL pay I'm fairly sure

[Ed]

Where's Neio when you need him;)

[Draper]

Nadine my german knowledge is fairly rudimentary, but does your name say nadine the leg? or is that Bein? (also i cant imagine leg being die..)

[weazelz]

hmm .. well, it was on a work trip. I might see if work'd like to pay it for me. it's only 60EU

actually, now I think about it, I've got a load of guilders somewhere, maybe I should try sending them

[neio79]

Where's Neio when you need him;)

Im here, hmm read this with intrest.

Its true you can get away with out having your licence endorsed as other countries can not put on points (at the moment) but like someone else has said if you dont pay the fine, the next time you are known to be in Holland they will more than likley bang you up untill you have.

If the fine is noy too much just pay it.

Nadine you are a very naughty girl not changing your plates to German ones or visa vers german ones to UK. See my rants in other posts ref the Poles up the road from me.

I hope that if you have still got your German plates on here in the UK that you get tugged and found out you have been residing here for more than 6 months, hence done for no tax and MOT etc, better still give me your plate details and ill report you. In case you had not notices i hate people comming to the UK and taking the p*ss.

[Moffatt666]

Neio - Nadine said in previous posts that she has GB plates but a German licence and as she's under 70 she has no obligation to get a GB licence.

[NadineDieBiene]

O dear, o dear, let us put things straight:

I am german (sorry) but I have been studying in the UK for 3 years now - my SV is hence British & I am only back in germany on holidays.

BUT: Swansea DID drop the charges when I went through a red light! ;-) (It will not happen again)

Everything clear?

All te best, Nadine

[skint]

Where's Neio when you need him;)

Took the words right out of my mouth! :D

[skint]

Nadine you are a very naughty girl not changing your plates to German ones or visa vers german ones to UK. See my rants in other posts ref the Poles up the road from me.

I hope that if you have still got your German plates on here in the UK that you get tugged and found out you have been residing here for more than 6 months, hence done for no tax and MOT etc, better still give me your plate details and ill report you. In case you had not notices i hate people comming to the UK and taking the p*ss.

Go Neio :smt041

[neio79]

O dear, o dear, let us put things straight:

I am german (sorry) but I have been studying in the UK for 3 years now - my SV is hence British & I am only back in germany on holidays.

BUT: Swansea DID drop the charges when I went through a red light! ;-) (It will not happen again)

Everything clear?

All te best, Nadine

all cleared up, ill put my soap box away now.

I know there are some countrys that the UK wil accept a straight swap of the original licence for a Uk one, i would imagine Germany is one?

[the white rabbit]

I think the issue here is not so much the Dutch authorities as the car hire company. When you hire you usually sign saying you are liable for tickets, fines etc. So they will recover the monies somehow I guess. Has your credit card expired ;)?

[NadineDieBiene]

all cleared up, ill put my soap box away now.

I know there are some countrys that the UK wil accept a straight swap of the original licence for a Uk one, i would imagine Germany is one?

Dear Neio,
why should I pay senseless money to get a UK plastic card when I have a full EU license? Not even my BRITISH insurance is more expensive...

[weazelz]

I think the issue here is not so much the Dutch authorities as the car hire company. When you hire you usually sign saying you are liable for tickets, fines etc. So they will recover the monies somehow I guess. Has your credit card expired ;)?
doesn't that just mean that the hire company *isn't* liable for any fines? ie that they are just required to hand over your details to the authorities

[Stu]

doesn't that just mean that the hire company *isn't* liable for any fines? ie that they are just required to hand over your details to the authorities
I would say you are right. some fines the hire company would be liable for (like parking?) because it's car related but driving ones they wouldn't be liable for so not passing on the fine, just your details.

This is all just supposition. Might be worth offering in case you go back esp. as with Nadine it was just dropped.

I don't know how it works in Holland, but remember here all council imposed driving penalties (camera enforcement stuff bus lanes & no turns etc.) it is the vehicle owner that is responsible, NOT the driver.

[Moffatt666]

Dear Neio,
why should I pay senseless money to get a UK plastic card when I have a full EU license? Not even my BRITISH insurance is more expensive...

A quick glance at the DVLA webby shows you don't need a UK licence if you have an EU one.

[Ceri JC]

An italian mate gets caught speeding, red light cameras etc. over here all the time and never pays up. He has never had a problem. Hopefully the reverse is true. :)

[tomjones2]

I dont know about other counties but I know that the aussie authorities have chased people in england for parking tickets, saw it on that ballifs program on TV.

I thought that in england if you had a foriegn licence (not sure about EU) you have to get it changed to an english one if you are in the country for 12 months. This happened to a chinese guy I worked with when he didnt take his usual anual holiday.

Basically if it a small fine I would pay, no point in winding up the authorities for small things, they will probaly slap huge fines on if they have to recover the cost of you by ballifs etc. Getting arrested on a return work trip would be very embarrsing as well.

[hoodlum]

An italian mate gets caught speeding, red light cameras etc. over here all the time and never pays up. He has never had a problem. Hopefully the reverse is true. :)


There will be a problem if he's ever pulled by the police. Non payment of fines will result in an arrest - provided of course that the car he's driving is registered to him etc etc etc....

This whole thing ****es me off as well. There's a Kosovan that lived in Surrey where I used to live driving on KS plates - he's been there for well over two years to my knowledge (nice house - one of the £450k ones). Now, it's either indicative of the business of the police on other matters or it's a case of Can't Be Arsed by the police to do anything about it. He won't be insured for the UK either.

[Viney]

I am german (sorry) Appology accepted ;)

[Ceri JC]

There will be a problem if he's ever pulled by the police. Non payment of fines will result in an arrest - provided of course that the car he's driving is registered to him etc etc etc....


The car is registered (and taxed) in Italy. The one time he was pulled, he just spoke Spanish at them and pretended not to understand and they sent him on his way.