Exhaust Noise

[ricky_t]

Hi all,

I have bought a 2000 sv650s with full fairings. The previous owner put on a nice can that gives the bike a bit more of a grunt sound however is it possible to get an exhaut can to make the bike sound like a high revving f1 car. I have heard a few bikes before that make the same noise as an f1 car and i want to know either:

1) What can to get
2) What bike to get that makes that noise.

I rarely use the bike, maybe half a dozen times a month and i want it to sound a particular way. I know this is a bit childish!!

Regards

Amrik

[Heed]

The higher revving engines are more likely to have the sound that you desire. Something like a CBR600. However the sound of a V-Twin through a good exhaust is music to most peoples ears!

[fizzwheel]

Any four cylinder bike will give you the sound you're after.

[plowsie]

go and buy a four cylinder bike

HTH

[DoubleD]

You won't get F1 sounds out of a v-twin, you'll be needing a in-line 4.

HTH

[kwak zzr]

any il4 that rev's to 18000rpm

[ricky_t]

Right, I think i may get a vfr 400 rr as the cbr 600 rr is a bit too much to insure. However the vfr is a v4 but the cbr 400 is a il4.

I guess v-twins are not for me, unfortunately.

[Sideshow#36]

So you are going to sell the bike just because it doesnt quite sound right? My missus used to have a cbr400rr and quite frankly that didnt sound anything special. You still wont get the sound you are after!

[fizzwheel]

VFR's etc are expensive and alot of them are 10 years old.. which might cause problems maintenance spares wise, also they seem to hold their value really well, you'd get more bike for your money if you did buy a CBR, particularly the older F models.

Or just stick with your SV...

[hovis]

Right, I think i may get a vfr 400 rr as the cbr 600 rr is a bit too much to insure. However the vfr is a v4 but the cbr 400 is a il4.

I guess v-twins are not for me, unfortunately.

surely the colour is the most important;)

[MiniMatt]

Have to say it strikes me as slightly odd to sell a bike because of the sound, but then I've been known to choose purely on colour before now so perhaps not so odd :D

As Fizz says, decent VFR400s are getting rarer these days and a bit old. Pretty reliable though. The closest to an "F1 sound" that I can think of would be a high revving 2 stroke like an RS250 (or even an RG500 if you can find one). But these are getting old and are in no way reliable. Having owned a VFR400 I can't say as I recall the engine note being particularly impressive, different for sure, but not really impressive.

Hmm, found Suzi's concept six cylinder bike, that sounds pretty turbine like - there's a link at the bottom of this (http://www.motorcycledaily.com/08december05_strato.htm)article to the engine noise. Of course, you have to wait for them to make that :D

[Razor]

ZXR250 revs to 19,000 rpm. Your neighbours will love you.

[ricky_t]

So you are going to sell the bike just because it doesnt quite sound right? My missus used to have a cbr400rr and quite frankly that didnt sound anything special. You still wont get the sound you are after!

It is a bit more than that reason alone. There are several things i like about the sv such as instant acceleration and good looks and realiability.

However i bought the bike for the occasional fun ride and i find the flat torque curve rather lazy kind of riding. My old vtec civic was great fun when you were in the high revs however the v-twin the torque does not increase into the high revs.

It is a blue bike! Thanks for your comments but next year when i am 21 i may get a 600cc inline 4 as it appears that the 400cc in line 4s are too expensive. A CBR600F 2002 is around £3000 but a 1991 VFR400RR is nearly £2000!

[kwak zzr]

one bike that makes the hairs stand up on the back of my neck is my mates k1 gsxr600 with a mongoose carbon exhaust, when he goes past me just before the rev limiter in 2nd and 3rd it always makes me smile.:)

[ricky_t]

Thank-you all, it is the noise the gsxr600 makes is what i am after.

Checked it on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFGrfPKRpoM&mode=related&search=

[fizzwheel]

The CBR F you're considering will make that kind of noise if you fit a race can to it.

Engine characteristics are different on a twin, it makes its power and torque much lower down the RPM range compared to your Civic engine. If you keep the revs on the SV between 5 and 9000rpm and dont rev it all the way to redline it's much more fun like that.

IMHO why not keep the SV for a year, ride it about get used to riding, build up some no claims and then chop it in for something else, at your age you might find the insurance on the CBR a bit steep...

Just a thought.

[Dan]

My ZX7R, I recently discovered, sounds a LOT like an F1 car at about 13K-14K in a tunnel.

The ZX6R, ZX7R and ZX9R all give the combination of induction/exhaust noise that makes the F1 car sound... my assistant at work's just bought an 07 ZX6R and it's a proper screamer... although it doesn't sound half as exotic as an older ZX6/7.

[ricky_t]

The CBR F you're considering will make that kind of noise if you fit a race can to it.

Engine characteristics are different on a twin, it makes its power and torque much lower down the RPM range compared to your Civic engine. If you keep the revs on the SV between 5 and 9000rpm and dont rev it all the way to redline it's much more fun like that.

IMHO why not keep the SV for a year, ride it about get used to riding, build up some no claims and then chop it in for something else, at your age you might find the insurance on the CBR a bit steep...

Just a thought.

I have to agree with you. Being a miser i like your idea alot. I have 2 years no-claims and paying £280 for the sv650s on insurance at the moment.

I have completed an insurance quote and the gsxr600 and cbr600 are around the £300 mark next year when i get another years no-claims.

I will wait 10 months and gain experience on the 650. The difficult decision is what 600 to get. There is:

GSXR600,
CBR600RR, CBR600F
ZX6R
YZF R1

If they all sound like an F1 car when they have a race can what is the best one to go for?

[Sideshow#36]

I will wait 10 months and gain experience on the 650. The difficult decision is what 600 to get. There is:

GSXR600,
CBR600RR, CBR600F
ZX6R
YZF R1


I take it you mean the R6? Ive got 5 years no claims and its still over a grand insurance for an R1.

[ricky_t]

woops yep i meant the R6!

[fizzwheel]

IGSXR600,
CBR600RR, CBR600F
ZX6R
YZF R1

If they all sound like an F1 car when they have a race can what is the best one to go for?

GSXR-750, but I'm a tad biased ;) :D

Depends what you want and what you can afford to insure...

You might find the CBR600F a bit tame compared to the other bikes on that list, especially the R1.. They are all great bikes though.

Wait till you're ready to change bikes, then get a test ride and make your own mind up, its the best way really.

Ah OK, R6 instead of an R1, makes more sense compared to the others, I believe the R6 has the highest rev limit so thats the one that will be more of a screamer, which is where you'll get the F1 sound from, best way might be to get to a bike meet and have a look see and a listen for yourself

[squirrel_hunter]

My missus used to have a cbr400rr and quite frankly that didnt sound anything special.

Was it running the stock system cause that sounds crap? I have a full Predator system on mine (amazingly road legal) that does a mighty fine impression of an F1 car, if thats your thing. It almost got me pulled once, luckily Mr Policeman was already dealing with something...

[Sideshow#36]

Was it running the stock system cause that sounds crap?No it was an aftermarket one but it just didnt sound anything special, dont get me wrong it was a hoot to ride but il4's dont really do anythng for me, (riding style and sound)

[squirrel_hunter]

No it was an aftermarket one but it just didnt sound anything special, dont get me wrong it was a hoot to ride but il4's dont really do anythng for me, (riding style and sound)

Fair do's. I prefer the sound of my SV (particularly on the over run).

[Sideshow#36]

:smt041 :winner: :smt041:winner: :smt041:winner: :smt041

[hovis]

Fair do's. I prefer the sound of my SV (particularly on the over run).

i dont.......... not when im behind you anyway:smt020

[adw]

I don't like the sound of my sv when it's going through the rev range but when my dad kinda convinced me to let him have a go while sliding the key out my hand at the same time, i went into the back garden to have a listen and it sounded gorgeous! Not much fun for me sitting on it though.

Tis standard exhaust at the moment ;)

[plowsie]

Sitting behind 2mths at lights and listening to him peel off in front with a CCC can with a baffle in sounds nice. Aparently mines sounds alright too according to mates, but they know nothing about bikes.

[ArtyLady]

Have to say it strikes me as slightly odd to sell a bike because of the sound, :D



I did! :smt045 :rolleyes: :oops: .......my Bandit - because I hated the sound - it didnt sound like a "real bike" to me :lol: I wanted another V twin (had a Guzzi before the Bandit :cool: )

mind you.....I never wanted a yellow bike, it just came up at the right price :D but I feel a little safer cos peeps do appear to see me coming (and hear me :lol:)

[plowsie]

but I feel a little safer cos peeps do appear to see me coming (and hear me :lol:)
Know what you mean, i'm normally multi coloured on my bike (its blue and white lol) and people still dont see me.

[ricky_t]

Know what you mean, i'm normally multi coloured on my bike (its blue and white lol) and people still dont see me.

That is so true. Some people with black bikes and black leathers and standard bikes are sometimes difficult to see especially when they have their headlights off during the day!

On the matter of exhaust noise, i will change the bike when the time is right financially to one of the revvy 600cc.

[eano2]

Ricky I think that you really need to do a lot more research when buying your next bike. I spent almost three months trying to decide what bike to get and I was considering all the bikes you have mentioned.
There are so many other factors that need to be taken into consideration besides the sound (to be honest I didn't even think about sound myself!!): reliability, comfort, practicality/usability, service intervals, fuel consumption, finish quality etc...
are all examples of a few of the factors most people consider when buying a new bike.

I went for the SV due to its practicality and affordability, it is well set up for bumpy roads and you just never have to worry about what gear you're in, it has power way down low. The vast majority of the bikes that you are considering are extremely focused and require a very skilled pilot if you hope to get the best out of them. They also need to be revved very hard to get the performance/sound that you want, this maybe impractical if you live in a built up town for instance.

My advice if you have to have the "f1" noise is to go for a Yamaha Thundercat or the first model yamaha r6. These will scream and also won't cost you an arm and a leg and are arguably some of the most usable/practical sports 600 around which would be good for those less experienced.

hope that helps