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stuartyboy
06-08-07, 02:13 PM
Just back from a weekend in Northumberland and I have to how disappointed I was by some of the bikers there. It started in Tescos car park in Hexham when I got verbals by some bikers shouting "engerlund" and some finger pointing. Couldn't figure out why or how they new I was Scottish. Next went along to the local petrol station and a guy on a red bmw pulls in wearing the St.Georges cross arai...gave him a biker nod and got the dirtiest look back. His pillon passenger was none to friendly either. Just thought oh well - must be having a bad day.
So...ride out the petrol station and head out of town. After about a mile two ducatis and a blade start flanking up beside me and have a good old look at me. The ducs overtake me on the inside and the blade on the outside then I see them making some kind gesture towards each other. I'm thinking have I got a sign on my back or something.
So...head on up to keilder but stop off in Wark as my phone's buzzing for a txt. There's a few bikers there an I give a nod - no response. There's a guy on a black fazer accross the car park looking my direction. I give a nod and get no response back. So again I'm thinking WTF? I checked round the bike, nothing there. The reg is Scottish but that's about it. So...think folk must just be grumpy or unfriendly so I set off up the twisties towards keilder and I just decide not to bother nodding/waving etc.
I'm riding along at a decent pace but not too fast as I dont really know the roads when next thing I get buzzed on a right hander by the guy on the black fazer. Absolutely **** myself. So I let him get in front but still keep him in my sights with the intention of having a quiet word with him when he stops. However he heads up some wee B class road so I decide not to bother.
I get to Keilder and the duc/blade guys are there staring at me as I come into the car park. There's quite a few other bikers there but no nods or hellos. So I park up and a guy on a Daytona parks next to me. I say hello and get chatting to him (he's welsh). I tell him I've never felt so unwlecome and he tells me my St.Andrews cross knee sliders stick out like a sore thumb and the area is known to be a bit redneck. I never even noticed them TBH. Sure enough the three bikers who were unfriendly towards me had combinations of Arai St.Georges, St.Georges on the leathers and sliders etc. So...I go for a toilet brake, take off the sliders and hop on the bike and ride round keilder. I stop off to go for an ice cream. Park up and no sooner was I parked than I get the friendly nod and hellos etc etc. I get my ice cream, come out the shop and the 3 guys from earlier are there - sure as fate I get a friendly nod - obviously never recognised me with the lid off.
I thought bikers were bikers no matter where you are. I've never heard of anyone getting the evils in Scotland because of St.George helmet and any time I've ever been out in groups or solo I'll always be friendly to other bikers.
What really disappoints me is that I lived and worked in Newcastle/Northumberland for 3 years and I can say hand on heart that the people are the nicest friendliest people I have come accross. Such a shame that some people judge people because what they wear.
3 guys that eventually nodded at you - think I would've gone over & kicked their bikes over. Well, might as well deserve the reputation :D
A lot of people here in the UK are mindless bigots, sorry to hear you met so many of them.
Sorry to hear that mate, we kinda get the same thing down here in the cheshire/n wales border area, were not all like that though, some of us are alright you know ;)
some of us are alright you know ;)
I'll be the judge of that, come September!:D
Seriously, though, I'm really sorry to hear about the way you were treated, Stuartyboy. It's just totally unacceptable to blank a fellow biker because of where they are from. I have a small cross of St George on my lid, but that's purely to explain my total cr*pness at foreign languages when I'm abroad.
Yes, if England were playing Scotland at any sport I would be cheering England on, but if I met you and your knee sliders at a bike meet I'd talk to you just like I would any other biker. Some people are just kn*bs, and even bikers aren't immune from that disease!
independentphoto
06-08-07, 04:02 PM
Prats. Simple as that. And here's us ever so welcoming to anyone coming from miles around to enjoy our lovely roads:( .
Oh yes- and another thing..... Buzzing up underneath someone is NEVER on (unless they absolutely know that you're going to do it). Quedos filled her leathers on the last Ecosse rideout when some prats on supersports (none of our lot!) done exactly that to her & BigAl on the A82 and into oncoming traffic. Apparently one had to dive in right in front of her to avoid a nasty end.:smt103 It's not big & it's not clever - we don't give a flying .... what you're riding or how fast you can kill yourself.
Garry:rolleyes:
dirtydog
06-08-07, 04:10 PM
There was obviously a lot of n*bs about that day we're not all like that, honestly!
Although i was advised to remove my st. george cross knee sliders when i visited scotland so i guess there are muppets everywhere
S'ok if it's sliders...what if it's your helmet?
S'ok if it's sliders...what if it's your helmet?
Don't use the toilet with anybody watching.
-Ralph-
06-08-07, 09:14 PM
:toss: ers
Next time leave the knee sliders on and follow the :toss: ers
Take down a wee bag full of metal Saltire badges and a tube of Araldite.
Decorate the :toss: ers bike somewhere inconspicuous where it won't be noticed until the glue's rock hard :mrgreen:
Keith1983
06-08-07, 09:42 PM
That's absolutely shocking if people can be a**eholes like that over something like where you come from what next? Maybe some idiots would prefer that everyone stay in their home town in which case alot of their local businesses and companies would suffer due to lack of tourism. As for the buzzing subject I don't think that will ever stop due to the vast amount of insecure people that feel they have something to prove. I guess all we can do is try and get on with enjoying riding safe in the knowledge that the vast majority of riders anre decent, open minded, considerate people.
suicidesam
06-08-07, 11:35 PM
Sad to say but there is a lot of that about, one of my mate's moved down to Teeside 4 years ago.. got slagged big time from the guys he worked with all the "sweaty sock" jokes etc. Got himself a bike early last year, First thing he done was bought saltire helmet's for him and the Mrs, an rang me to get him a "Sco" plate made up for the bike.. could not find anyone down there that would make one ;)
For a while he got growled at by the locals (which he found funny) but now they all nod/wave no probs.
My view... someone on a bike/scooter/hog whatever, nod wave or shake a leg at it :cool:
Thats the one reason why I'm not buying a st georges helmet as much as I want one. There will be always be some n*bs but as DD says we're not all like that. Yes i can be patrioctic (to stir) but having been on the opposite side and got stick for years for being english i wouldn't dream of doing that to anyonelse. Its not a nice feeling.
Ralph- shouldn't lower yourself to their level. The next time they nod coz they don't recognise you just talk to them. That'll shut them up.
Well Im an anglo scot, so could wear either a St George or a St Andrew AGV lid, but thinking of getting the St Andrew for me dad, and me dad put up with all sorts of stuff when he first moved down here, stroppy jock, tight with your money etc trouble was they picked on the wrong bloke, think a cross between Billy Bremner and Billy Connolly with a bit of small man syndrome thrown in. Top man. Wear what you like stuartyboy. :thumbsup:
sorry to hear about your bad experience stuarty. :smt056
Tiger 55
07-08-07, 05:12 PM
Knob faced knobsters as I believe the current vernacular has it.
The English are lovely, lovely people. Unless they are winning at football of course but I think that's understood :)
Having conducted your sliders off experiment, I hope you put them back on and rode all the way home shouting
Freeeeeeeedommmmm
Biker Biggles
07-08-07, 06:36 PM
Just goes to show that bikers are not immune to being complete w*nkers.
Just plain rude as much as anything,but you Scottish types can have the last laugh when it comes to the North Easterners
Definition of a Geordie-----A Scotsman with his brains bashed out.;)
scooby2102
07-08-07, 07:38 PM
Have worked in various UK locations over the last 15 odd years and can honestly say that either at work or play, have never experienced anything other than what I would class as "banter".
Have covered thousands of bike miles down south in most places and have always had friendly nods/waves from fellow bikers whether on the SV or dare I say it, on the Harley
If I get ignored, then so what, its not the end of the world, maybe they didnt see me until too late or maybe they just couldnt be arsed
Well I'm not from the North East and everyone's bloody friendly towards me, bikers and non-bikers alike. :D
I'm the same, btw. I would have said hello to you if I'd seen you out, but I was too busy with some mates taking the **** out of some guy with Saltire sliders ;)
northwind
07-08-07, 08:23 PM
Well done.. You've found a way of not accidentally associating with a**eholes just because they happen to own bikes :mrgreen:
gettin2dizzy
07-08-07, 09:13 PM
Bizarre! I was brought up around there and most people would associate more with Scots than with the English - as we're seemingly so cut off still. Really sorry to hear this- I'd imagine these were guys on "racing" bikes with matching leather though ;)
Biker Biggles
07-08-07, 09:27 PM
I used to live on tyneside and in truth the geordies were the friendliest bunch you could ever wish to meet.
That was awhile ago though,when they used to build ships and Lindisfarne used to play at the City Hall.There's also an extra bridge across the river and an ugly tin structure waving at you as you drive up the A1.Times change.
muzikill
07-08-07, 09:34 PM
And there was me thinking that all the people who want to pretend they are boorman and mcgregor on their BMW bikes were the worst culprit's for not waving back!
That really is a shocking tale - I perhaps naively always thought that bikers were bikers no matter what colour or creed you were? I guess there are always the few that will give others a bad name - hope you wont let it spoil your opinion of geordie bikers!
timwilky
08-08-07, 08:47 AM
two of my friends wear cross of St George lids, not bigoted, (one is actually Scottish, Born in Scotland, Scottish mother, but lived all their life in England). Why wear these lids. Simple, both are members of the England supporters club, go to all home matches and quite a few European ones.
Thing is, they don't nod to anyone. So not racist. Simply ignorant.
Ceri JC
08-08-07, 08:54 AM
I thought bikers were bikers no matter where you are. I've never heard of anyone getting the evils in Scotland because of St.George helmet and any time I've ever been out in groups or solo I'll always be friendly to other bikers.
Sadly, Leigh (Baldyman) got some hand gestures from some Welsh kids for his St. George's lid when we were in some real redneck bits of Wales.
Unacceptable behaviour, sorry to hear about this mate.
stuartyboy
08-08-07, 09:53 AM
More disappointed than angry. As I said before I've worked there for years and the people are the friendliest ever. Just my luck the knuckle dragger **** holes were out.
FWIW - No matter who it is in my neck of the woods - they'll always get a welcome, a nod, a chat or an invite for a beer or a dram.
Tiger 55
08-08-07, 12:14 PM
I used to live on tyneside...That was awhile ago though,when they used to build ships
I thought they built the ships in Sunderlad? 'You mack'em and we'll tack'em' and all that stuff? That's what they told me when I lived in South Gosforth, mibbe they were just taking the **** out of the tame Jock...
Sadly, Leigh (Baldyman) got some hand gestures from some Welsh kids for his St. George's lid when we were in some real redneck bits of Wales.
Kids! Baldyman had no snags on his recent John O'Groats trip and Samurai (Leigh Jr) even wore his Engerlund footy shirt down the pub in Highland Clearances territory with no hassle, but it does only take a couple of daft kids or grown up ******s to create a bad impression...
I'm very disappointed. I thought bikers were bikers, regardless of where they are from etc.
But obviously, even bikers can be bigots!!
Sorry to hear about this Stuartyboy. Some people are just plain ignorant.
DaBlackKnight
23-08-07, 09:02 AM
enlgish bikers can come up here with the St Georges colours flying without getting miss treated...but we cani go down their with our St Andrews colours showing!
This is why i feel the need to have a Sword by my side on the bike!
Just slash idiots like that when you go past them!
enlgish bikers can come up here with the St Georges colours flying without getting miss treated...but we cani go down their with our St Andrews colours showing!
This is why i feel the need to have a Sword by my side on the bike!
Just slash idiots like that when you go past them!
Well I'm sorry, that's plainly ********. :confused:
Every english person who's replied to this thread has stated how abhorrent the behaviour mentioned was, and I don't know a single person who'd be an ******** just because someone was a Scot or wearing the Saltire. Are you sure you don't just have a chip on your shoulder?
DaBlackKnight
23-08-07, 11:05 AM
Well I'm sorry, that's plainly ********. :confused:
Every english person who's replied to this thread has stated how abhorrent the behaviour mentioned was, and I don't know a single person who'd be an ******** just because someone was a Scot or wearing the Saltire. Are you sure you don't just have a chip on your shoulder?
that would all be fine and true IF it only happened once..or twice!
mibi he was just really unlucky and came across EVERY person that just didn't like the scotland flag in the sapce of a few hours ridding...
theres no chip on my shoulder..not unless a seagul dropped one there...:nemo:
the poeple on this forum are bikers...
the ones that talk to other bikers wither its on the roads or in forums and look out for 1 another...
but i would say the "true" biking spirit is now becoming a minority as the roads just seem to be filling up with fast & daft ridders! (on and off the road)
these are the people i wish to take thi sword too...
anyways..off to avenge some more seaguls...
:batman:
scooby2102
23-08-07, 11:54 AM
eh ?
DaBlackKnight
23-08-07, 12:14 PM
well...
i shall let u know how i get on ridding to Portsmouth from Glasgow on my Blue Blackbird with a St Andrews Race Flag on the screen, a St Andrews Flag Styled tank protector and possibly an Eccose sticker on the back...
(though i will have a sword on my bike so the dafties might not give me any jib)
SLASH SLAH
DBK said..
well...
i shall let u know how i get on ridding to Portsmouth from Glasgow on my Blue Blackbird with a St Andrews Race Flag on the screen, a St Andrews Flag Styled tank protector and possibly an Eccose sticker on the back...
Ah well, we can but hope
DaBlackKnight
24-08-07, 01:39 PM
hope for...
Bluewolf
24-08-07, 02:56 PM
"Hope for the best, prepare for the worst..." - Anon
independentphoto
24-08-07, 05:08 PM
hope for...
Typing / spelling lessons?
The Basket
25-08-07, 08:59 AM
Ever thought that they may just hate YOU and not your nationality? hahahahh.
Just a thought.
Eejits don't have a nation. I know that Scots shouted at the manager of Woolies coz they stocked Childrens England shirts.
I lived in Scotland for a year and not had any anti english eejits giving me any chat. Maybe I don't know enough people! I don't go ootseed with me England top coz it is an open invitation for a numpty to have a jib. Not worth the arseache.
But a tosser is a tosser no matter where he lives. I am English and I would be nice to ya.
grh1904
25-08-07, 05:19 PM
Strange one this...........
I'm originally from Glasgow, but now live in Darlington, 30 miles to the south of Newcastke.
Never had any problems at alll, unless I'm at work, but then most people who I deal with can't see past the uniform. Although my accent has defused a few fights outside the pubs cos of the reputation we have as being mad.
The Basket
25-08-07, 08:01 PM
Reputation?
grh1904
26-08-07, 10:05 AM
Reputation?
A lot of the English do consider the Scots to be fiery short tempered aggressive type people. I find that those that don't have visited the country, and some of those that do hold that viewpoint have this blinkered view that life is some sort of cross between Monarch of the Glen/Take the High Road/Hamish Macbeth/200o acres of Sky with a bit of the Broons and Oor Wullie thrown in. By that I mean we all live with the sound of bagpipes playin in the background 24/7, eat sheeps stomachs and deep fried mars bars while wearing the kilt or harris tweed.
The Basket
26-08-07, 10:50 AM
A lot of the English do consider the Scots to be fiery short tempered aggressive type people. I find that those that don't have visited the country, and some of those that do hold that viewpoint have this blinkered view that life is some sort of cross between Monarch of the Glen/Take the High Road/Hamish Macbeth/200o acres of Sky with a bit of the Broons and Oor Wullie thrown in. By that I mean we all live with the sound of bagpipes playin in the background 24/7, eat sheeps stomachs and deep fried mars bars while wearing the kilt or harris tweed.
A lil' tale.
Annoying...A Scot from the highlands came to St Andrews Uni hating the English and vowing never speak to any English. 24 hours later, he found the folly of his ways and grew up. Sure to hate people but do it on better than bigotry. Not all English are evil and have horns.
Another episode is a Welsh tosser who wouldn't speak to me in English and I had to get a relative to translate.
Not everything about Scotland is good. As anyone who has watched River City and drank a pint of Tennants will testify.
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