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neilfab
21-08-07, 12:38 PM
Going home last night, approaching a T junction at the end of a small square. Theres a courier van parked on a yellow line obscuring left hand view - where I want to go. Didn't scrub off enough speed and pulled out beyond front of van only to find a on coming car coming up the road. Slight fright and unfortunatley grabbed a hand full of front and washed out it out. Down we went.

I had almost come to a stop except the front just went away. Rolled away from the bike, car stopped well in time and a guy on a black kwak ER6n behind me stopped as well. Bounced straight back up absolutely unscathed apart from my pride, courtesy of my Furygan leather and Hood jeans.:oops:

Both guys helped me pick up the bike and take it over to a safe place. After checking myself and bike I now need a new clutch lever and gear selection lever and thats it - no plastics damage at all...oh and a bar end sratch

Whilst checking the bike the van driver had come back from his delivery and gone. :mad:

Eventually got home via SOS Recovery and had chat with the recovery guy who was just a Suzuki nut and gave me the name of a place to try for spares.:D

I know some people are not that lucky but it will all go down in the experience locker for any future similar occasions. Crash and learn?

Incidently when does an off become an off and a drop become a drop?;)

Pedro68
21-08-07, 01:09 PM
Sorry to hear that Neil ... glad to hear that you are ok and not too much damage to bike.

As for "off v drop", my own personal distinction would be ...
Off = gear engaged (and bike moving with rider onboard)
Drop = gears not engaged (for instance, trying move the bike whilst holding bars/grab-rail, or stationary at traffic lights, put foot down and slip :oops:)

But I'm sure our more learned org'ers might have a better/different definition ;-)

Pete

the_lone_wolf
21-08-07, 01:24 PM
nah, if one or more wheels are turning when you think "OH S***" it's an off, otherwise it's a drop (the only exception being two wheel lockups, but they require some real determination:D)

Mogs
21-08-07, 01:33 PM
Well that's one in the bank of experiance.

I prefer Pedros Drop / Off definition

SV225
21-08-07, 01:38 PM
Glad there's not too much damage, sounds like you were lucky not to have any plastic damage.

I prefer Pedros Drop / Off definition

I prefer the_lone_ wolf's definition 'cos that means I've only had 3 offs :oops:

Pedro68
21-08-07, 01:45 PM
nah, if one or more wheels are turning when you think "OH S***" it's an off, otherwise it's a drop (the only exception being two wheel lockups, but they require some real determination:D)
So by that definition ... if you were wheeling your bike out of the garage holding handle bar and grab rail (wheels in motion) and you accidentally let go of the bars (due to being unbalanced say), then that would be an "off" when you weren't even "on" it in the first place?! :p

I'd call that one a "drop" ;)

Can feel a whole new thread/poll coming on ... where's hovis when ya need him :rolleyes: LOL

Pete

ASM-Forever
21-08-07, 01:47 PM
These small offs are becoming fashionable....i might have to look into it :)

Glad the damage is minor.

scorpion
21-08-07, 02:05 PM
Glad you're ok. A drop is what it says. An off is sliding down the road behind your pride and joy!

the_lone_wolf
21-08-07, 03:01 PM
So by that definition ... if you were wheeling your bike out of the garage holding handle bar and grab rail (wheels in motion) and you accidentally let go of the bars (due to being unbalanced say), then that would be an "off" when you weren't even "on" it in the first place?! :p

obviously you can't come off the bike when you're not on it - the confusion only arises when you're on it and you come off it, apply "TLW's law of wheel motion" in that case and you'll know if it was an off or a drop...

maybe...

:p;)

Ratty46
21-08-07, 04:19 PM
good to hear your alright,and not too much damage to ya bike.

a drop is low speed to me, an off is serious ie higher speeds

northwind
22-08-07, 01:12 AM
One thing I'd suggest, is you check out the armour in your jacket- the Furygan stuff (normantech!) protects very well in my experience, it's a mix of 2 foams, but the soft inner foam can tear off the protector. I don't think it's actually part of the CE protection, but I'm not 100% on that.

Other'n that, I like your style, how many people would have said "Diesel!" or "Idiot car driver!" or whatever other daft excuse came along? :salut:

neilfab
22-08-07, 10:12 AM
Thanks for all the best wishes. Feel grateful about no injuries but a bit of a fraud when you read about others like Rictus who have been through and are still going through "the mill and back".

Northy thanks for the advice and will check armour when I get home tonight. No point in dramatising the thing when its just down to inexperience. Mind you wasn't too chuffed about Mr Courier's choice of parking spot.

anna
22-08-07, 04:08 PM
neilfab... there is a lot to be said for how you deal with any off mate.. and as has been said your straightforward upfront approach is not seen often but will mean that you have learnt your lesson from it and others are able to learn from it too.

.. it also qualifies you for an anna :grouphug:

neilfab
22-08-07, 04:12 PM
.. it also qualifies you for an anna :grouphug:

Anna thanks for that, I've gone all warm and fuzzy now :oops:

the_lone_wolf
22-08-07, 04:25 PM
Anna thanks for that, I've gone all warm and fuzzy now :oops:
cunning as a fox, it was your plan all along:p

neilfab
22-08-07, 04:31 PM
Damn! Was it that obvious...?:cool:

anna
22-08-07, 04:40 PM
Anna thanks for that, I've gone all warm and fuzzy now :oops:

HTH .. the anna hug bank guarantees top quality hugs!!!!

ASM-Forever
22-08-07, 07:44 PM
Anna thanks for that, I've gone all warm and fuzzy now :oops:

That will be the blood draining from your head.......:smt103