33bhp - Does this make a lot of difference?

[jans1971]

my friend is thinking of getting a sv but it has to be restricted to 33bhp . has any one tried a sv which has been restricted . does it effect the top end is it still quick in lower gears, thanks jans

[Wideboy]

my friend is thinking of getting a sv but it has to be restricted to 33bhp . has any one tried a sv which has been restricted . does it effect the top end is it still quick in lower gears, thanks jans

not much difference until 60 which it feels a bit breathless but still plenty of power until 80 ish, will do 100-110 so i am told:rolleyes:

[ScottishRawker]

I have a restricted sv,

i can feel where it will have more power when unrestricted in lower gears, still accelerates nicely but will go faster off the line full power.

feels fine until around late 80s then feels bit slow at getting more speed.

had mine to 115 so far and that wasn't topped out or tucked in.

its a nice bike for it and cant wait to have her full power.

[hovis]

no............. was out with a few peeps, and we did not know that one was on 33bhp until he said, kept up with us all

[redlavachips]

I have a restricted sv,

i can feel where it will have more power when unrestricted in lower gears, still accelerates nicely but will go faster off the line full power.

feels fine until around late 80s then feels bit slow at getting more speed.

had mine to 115 so far and that wasn't topped out or tucked in.

its a nice bike for it and cant wait to have her full power.

same as above really, still leaves those cars standing at the lights when you go, ive had 104...... on private roads of course :thumbsup:

[gettin2dizzy]

Of course there is a difference. It's less than half the power! But it is sufficient to have fun on yeah.

[powelly]

Mines restricted, have not ridden a bigger unrestricted bike so I coming straight from the bikes schools 125s and I must say its seems plenty, as others have said its quicker than a car away from the lights, accelerates nicely to overtake and cruises happily at motorway speed.

To be honest its a bit scary/exciting to think what it will be like once its derestricted, but hopefully by then Ill have the confidence/experience to deal with it.

[Smudge]

i would think it just takes out the 7/9000rpm power band out so the front wheel stays on the deck

[ScottishRawker]

you can still get the front wheel up tho!!!

enough power to get a power wheelie, mind you it needs to be at about 3000 revs then throttle off then back on, and it comes up. Not very high but still up.

[plowsie]

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I ride 33bhp (usually) just bought a new bike without kit at the moment and there is a difference in acceleration obviously, i liked mine through corners and ok out of them too. My new one im getting used to at the moment but feels nice, i will be getting it restricted though :(

[Alpinestarhero]

my friend is thinking of getting a sv but it has to be restricted to 33bhp . has any one tried a sv which has been restricted . does it effect the top end is it still quick in lower gears, thanks jans

Well, you'd be silly thinking 33bhp dosnt affect the top end - your mate will be loosing half the power!

My sv is restricted (its a curvy model) and its pretty nippy in the first 4 gears, 5th and 6th arnt really much differant from each other in terms of change in speed when the throttle is twisted. The engine won't really want to rev over 8,000 rpm - which is fine, since all the best power is found between 4000 and 7500 rpm anyway! The main thing is the bottom-end torque is mostly retained, so quick gettaways are still going to happen if you want them to.

A restricted SV is great fun, possibly one of the best bikes to restrict since you still maintain a fair wodge of low-down power and torque.

Matt

[plowsie]

and i suppose if you put a t**b*x on it you can wheelie aswell :D :lol:

[Alpinestarhero]

and i suppose if you put a t**b*x on it you can wheelie aswell :D :lol:

You'd think that, wouldnt you :D But im scared

Don't 'alf make it weave at higher speeds though, with a little input through the handlebars.....

Still more stable than a honda ST1300

Matt

[plowsie]

i did it on the new one this morning, not purposely i was like o dear sh1taki mushrooms! just give it some where i would normally and forgot

[Smudge]

[quote=alpinestarhero;1268229]Well, you'd be silly thinking 33bhp dosnt affect the top end - your mate will be loosing half the power!

My sv is restricted (its a curvy model) and its pretty nippy in the first 4 gears, 5th and 6th arnt really much differant from each other in terms of change in speed when the throttle is twisted. The engine won't really want to rev over 8,000 rpm - which is fine, since all the best power is found between 4000 and 7500 rpm anyway!



thats differant to the pointy then cos my best torque is between 7/9000rpm

[plowsie]

Well, you'd be silly thinking 33bhp dosnt affect the top end - your mate will be loosing half the power!

My sv is restricted (its a curvy model) and its pretty nippy in the first 4 gears, 5th and 6th arnt really much differant from each other in terms of change in speed when the throttle is twisted. The engine won't really want to rev over 8,000 rpm - which is fine, since all the best power is found between 4000 and 7500 rpm anyway!



thats differant to the pointy then cos my best torque is between 7/90000rpm
are you restricted?

[Smudge]

no i'l shut up then :smt086

[plowsie]

no
thats why your torque may be a bit different ;)

[Smudge]

how long do you need to be ristricted for then

[plowsie]

2 years

[Smudge]

should be nicely run in by then, they should go on mileage two years seems a bit steep

[Alpinestarhero]

should be nicely run in by then, they should go on mileage two years seems a bit steep

Well, I dunno about that. Two years isnt that long I dont think. I've only had my liscence a year, and I havnt yet got to griops with some of the basics...I'd ratherr have another year restricted and carry on learning good cornering skills.

But then, the choice of derestriction should be down to the rider, and how he/she feels about their own capabilities

Matt

[melody]

My curvey is restricted and it has plenty enough power for me.

[ScottishRawker]

just been out and played on the motorway with mine (pointy 33bhp) and wanted to check when it lost its ooomph, and it still gets to 90 in 4th no problem.

[plowsie]

4th, bloody hell!

[SoulKiss]

just been out and played on the motorway with mine (pointy 33bhp) and wanted to check when it lost its ooomph, and it still gets to 90 in 4th no problem.

I think you will find he was interested in MPH figures not KPH ones.

No-one on this board would be reckless enough to do 90MPH on a public road surely.

[Smudge]

sh!t thats screwing the crap outta it, my mate said what speed can you get out of 1st and i replied oo about 10mph before i want to change, i dont take her over 9500rpm

[on yer bike]

if he's after a newish pointy, I've gota nice one for sale, with a restrictor thrown in if he wishes. (see sig)

I found it is the exact same until you get to 6,000 revs then the power dies, but accelerating up the gears quickly you only get to 6,000 revs so you don't really notice the difference until you are at 6,000 on the 6th gear (this is somewhere betwen 70 and 80 mph I think) I ha mine 115mph with 2 people on (thats suzuki speed, so in real time I'd say abut 108mph) and with me on my own 122mph (so about 115mph) It just takes some time to get there. (all times done fully legally on my local airstrip of course)

[ScottishRawker]

I think you will find he was interested in MPH figures not KPH ones.

No-one on this board would be reckless enough to do 90MPH on a public road surely.

That is mph, im in scotland and its defo mph.

maybe mines just specialy fast for 33bhp.

its at about 9000rpm in 4th to get 90, i only do that when im raggin it.

and it wasnt on a public road, did it on my own personal airstrip :rolleyes: i just call it motorway to make people jealous!!:rolleyes:

[Wideboy]

well on my own personal airstrip:pig: i have had about 105mph but to get anymore i would need to lay down as im a big booger, should have been called tall&wideboy:rolleyes:

[chakraist]

If anyone has a restrictor kit and cert for a curvy, I'd happily pay for it as I'd like to save me a bit of dosh when I get mine (as I'll definitely be getting one), anyone done with theirs?

Cheers,
Conrad

[plowsie]

I get 135 out of my "restricted" bike

[stewie]

If anyone has a restrictor kit and cert for a curvy, I'd happily pay for it as I'd like to save me a bit of dosh when I get mine (as I'll definitely be getting one), anyone done with theirs?

Cheers,
Conrad

Ive just bought plowsies bike which is restricted, but i will be removing it in a week or two, pm me if you,re interested
stew

[Wideboy]

I get 135 out of my "restricted" bike

WHAT!!! geezs!! is that standard!:smt119

[on yer bike]

WHAT!!! geezs!! is that standard!:smt119
It is if you accidentally loose the restrictor

[Draper]

Yeah i got a restricted sv, still bloody more fast than you need as far as i'm concerned

acceleration good, there is a noticable lack of grunt at around 70 i find, but i've still powered it to 100 without full throttle, but that was only the once, i try not to break the limit too much, 6 points and its back to the test centre:smt105

i also wouldnt want to risk not having a restrictor, because lets face it bikes have a tendancy to hit the deck, and you're pretty fooked if it does. you dont need to go 130 in your first 2 years of riding surely?

[plowsie]

It is if you accidentally loose the restrictor
;)

[plowsie]

there is a noticable lack of grunt at around 70 i find
I never had a problem on country roads with it :D(that was the old one)

i also wouldnt want to risk not having a restrictor, because lets face it bikes have a tendancy to hit the deck, and you're pretty fooked if it does. you dont need to go 130 in your first 2 years of riding surely?
I'm only doing it till i get a 'stricta snorted

[chakraist]

It's likely I'll have to ride home on an unrestricted bike when I get one, until I can get to a garage that'll fit one, after that, if the cops want to dyno my bike, go for it. Free printout!

[thefallenangel]

I'm now going out and saying Suzuki deserved to be fired out of a big cannon. They've had over a week to send my restrictor kit to thunder road and still can't be arsed. Luckily to TR's credit they've offered me a CB250 :(. Still better than no bike at all. If it doesn't turn up tuesday then i maybe forced into pulling out a gun and going nuts.

[ljharmitt]

So will it power wheelie off the throttle restricted with one person on (no top box)?

[yorkie_chris]

In a sort of kinda way.
If you want to play like that then different sprockets are the way to do it.

[chakraist]

Mine certainly won't. But I'm a big lad.

[Sean_C]

I find I have to thrash it a bit if I want to make good progress on the country roads past traffic (i.e. keep up with my mate pottering along on his ninja or blade..) If I don't change down and rev it a bit, I don't really overtake quick enough.
My 2001 svs is good for 100, if the wind is right. The pointy seems quicker in all acounts with a restrictor kit?

I think I might have to lose my restrictor after the winter, after I take it out for a trackday and forget to put it back in..

[Dangerous Dave]

I have ridden a restricted SV and a Aprilia 125, I would recommend the SV anytime in restricted form. Yes a 60+bhp motor running at 33bhp is a bit odd in some peoples eyes, but you can't tell by looking as it goes past!

A 33bhp SV runs just fine, it mainly effects the higher revs to be honest, although it is noticable throughout the rev range. It will save you a fortune too, especially if you get restriction lifted soon as you will not need to purchase another bike to match your license. You will learn how to ride an SV through the corners too (rather than just power) so is a huge benefit to a rider learning the characteristics of bigger bikes. Go for it, it is a wise decision!!! The restriction will allow you to get upto 115mph but it is a long struggle but still far better than any other 125 or 33bhp bike I have ridden.

For those of use who have tuned SV's (mine is only on 80bhp) it is like jumping back on a standard SV for a short blast. :smt077

[gettin2dizzy]

Everyone I know who has a RS125 tells me they're good for an easy 125mph.... There's always a lingering smell when they say this though.... so I tell them my SV can do 145 ;)

[Dangerous Dave]

Aprilia RS125 doing 125mph??? Thas maybe what the speedo says but if they look carefully the speedo keeps moving once you have hit the limiter in 6th!!! About 110mph can be ringed out of an RS but its at a stretch, an SV will get you to 115mph. The SV will out accelerate the RS and reach top speed quicker too, easily, but it will run out off puff in the higher revs and gears compared to an unrestricted.

Aprilia RS125 doing 125mph, yeah you will find a lingering smell coming from the rider....

[Smudge]

i bet theres a lot of people slippin the back wheel out under power once theve gone up to 70+ bhp, i followed Yorkie Chris back from devils and you wouldnt have guessed it was restricted only on the straights

[Draper]

will you be allowed on a trackday with only a restricted license? i didnt think that was allowed

[Sean_C]

will you be allowed on a trackday with only a restricted license? i didnt think that was allowed



Hope so.. I'd hate waiting for almost 2 years :mad:
It wouldn't seem fair- just because I'm restricted doesn't mean I'm a bad rider!

[Draper]

i watched some dvd in a bike mag, and they said their safety restrictions to reduce accidents includes only allowing full licenses... not sure if thats a general thing?

[Ratty46]

i watched some dvd in a bike mag, and they said their safety restrictions to reduce accidents includes only allowing full licenses... not sure if thats a general thing?

good idea i think, i mean most people on L's are just using it as a runaround, poeple that are realy into there bikes would pay teh money to go and do thier full test.

doubt it will happen tho as it would mean teh end of scooters pretty much plus 125's.

[Draper]

doubt what would happen? the 33bhp is owning a license (i.e. not a learner) you cant do anything if you're under 21 except be ristricted, i just had a feeling that being on a restricted license period you may not be allowed on a racetrack. anyone clear this up?

[Wideboy]

i've seen a rs125 do 110 mph but went bang a few days after

[Ratty46]

doubt what would happen? the 33bhp is owning a license (i.e. not a learner) you cant do anything if you're under 21 except be ristricted, i just had a feeling that being on a restricted license period you may not be allowed on a racetrack. anyone clear this up?

thats why i didnt mention 33hp restrictions, because it doesnt count, 33hp id stil a full licience just a restricted one. most on 33hp go and get a big bike and restrict it.

[Draper]

yeah thats what ive done, i cant really remember what i heard, but it was something to do with license and on your license when you're under 21 it says your power limit i think, just thought what i heard was something to do with needing to be on a full license

could be talking a load of cobblers though

[Ratty46]

not sure about track days mate, you would have to look it up on a trackday organisers website.

[rednorvs]

i had mine restricted now its not.
do it, its definately worth it, just as fun and you dont need the power as much as you might think.
acceleration is slower and top end is lower too but midrange is prety much the same.

unless your racing it you wont miss anything
enjoy mate!

[thefallenangel]

I rode a KR1s unrestricted and to be honest it's not that much difference bar the top end so unless your doing heavy motorway miles you won't really notice it. 363 Days to the end of my restriction :D

[yorkie_chris]

on your license when you're under 21 it says your power limit i think,

Just to clear it up the restriction is for 2 years after passing the test.
Hence the minumum age that you can have a full power license is 19, if you pass your test at 17

[thefallenangel]

Just to clear it up the restriction is for 2 years after passing the test.
Hence the minumum age that you can have a full power license is 19, if you pass your test at 17

Yes to chris but no to draper, your license stays the same until you get it changed for address or other purposes.

[Draper]

yeah yeah, i'm waiting for those 2 long years to expire

[Draper]

but on my license if i remember it says something like <25kW or some stuff...

[yorkie_chris]

Yes it will do (25kw is about 33bhp)
Theres no point sending your license off to change it though, as your license automatically counts to being full after 2 years on the DVLA system even if the hard copy still says 25kw

[Draper]

ahh i didnt know that

but anyway back to the whole point of me tallking about restrictors, someone said they wanted to take their bike on the track and take the restrictor out

i was saying that i heard that maybe your actua license needs to be fully unrestricted?

[thefallenangel]

ahh i didnt know that

but anyway back to the whole point of me tallking about restrictors, someone said they wanted to take their bike on the track and take the restrictor out

i was saying that i heard that maybe your actua license needs to be fully unrestricted?


i'd imagine an e-mail to the DVLA would sort this but you've gotta think about insurance cover too. Most insurances companies i'd imaginew would want full license but i don't know. You'd need to check with the DVLA first though.

[yorkie_chris]

Well its nothing to do with the DVLA, as you're not on the public road.

The deciding factor is the tracks liability insurance, which may specify you need a full license.
Most of our insurance companies wont cover on track anyway, so if you wanted comp cover for your own bike then you'd have to ask them about it.

[Sean_C]

Just to clear it up the restriction is for 2 years after passing the test.
Hence the minumum age that you can have a full power license is 19, if you pass your test at 17

I think there is another test after the 2 year period if you then want to ride any power bike at all, is that right? I didn't read the bumpf that came back with my license too carefully..
[edit: i.e. when my 2 year period is up, i'm still under 21 so have to take another test, i think]

For what its worth, I hated learning on a 125. It felt like a toy.. at best, a pushbike as i stand there with it between my knees. For that reason when I passed I wouldn't get a small cc bike. I got on the sv and it felt comfortable, and I think I'm learning better now I'm on a bigger bike.

[yorkie_chris]

Nope.

Thats if you pass 33bhp license at eg. 20 ... then when you turn 21 you can take test on a 500cc, to get the full license, or you could wait untill the restriction comes off automatically.

[Draper]

no i dont think that is the case sean, two years and then it should be unrestricted, we did the full motorcycle test, this is just something they put in for safety i imagine

and i was on a cg125, it was pretty good at the time, still got up to 60 (which is all you need for the exam). and when youve never ridden anything before it could be abit daunting at times as with everything when new. Glad to be on an SV now though!!

[Sean_C]

Ahh sorry. It pays to read things properly, dunnit? Went and found the sheet after I posted that, wish I'd done it first!

Sweet. I was half dreading that, the test is getting harder next year, the instructor was telling me.

I did mine on a cbr125, which I very proudly got up to 73mph. Musta looked a bit silly, all 6'2 and 14 stone of me tucked up behind the screen of a sowing machine on a dual carriageway!

[ljharmitt]

well im currently doing my a2 license on a ybr 125 im 6'2 and 16 stone, bike can hardly hit 60, well it didnt lol only 55 lmao

[Sean_C]

its nice after wrestling it up to legal speeds to hop on a proper bike and get to 60 in a few seconds..

Oh, and I may have slip-streamed, much to my instructors annoyance. :)

[Beenz]

If your regular miles are town commutes you will not notice much difference. It's been said earlier in this thread and I have to agree, I've been on more rideouts than I can be bothered to count where some bikes have been 33bhp and no one has noticed. Sometimes they are quicker in real use that the full powered sisters ridden by some of the more sedate riders. Enjoy the bike ;)

[Draper]

it's not worth the risk taking it out IMO, my cousin keeps telling me too (he's been riding for years now) but i'm pretty sure insurance wouldn't like that if anything happened...

i'll wait for another year and a quarter, then unleash it. atm up to 90 is fine, still fairly nippy in acceleration, and just as good round the twisties... i lag behind the riders i go out with in swales, but thats generally cos i'm not good enough to get max use out of the restricted engine atm

[Alpinestarhero]

well im currently doing my a2 license on a ybr 125 im 6'2 and 16 stone, bike can hardly hit 60, well it didnt lol only 55 lmao

I passed my test on a silver yam ybr125

Easier to ride than the CG's, IMO

Matt

[Alpinestarhero]

it's not worth the risk taking it out IMO, my cousin keeps telling me too (he's been riding for years now) but i'm pretty sure insurance wouldn't like that if anything happened...

i'll wait for another year and a quarter, then unleash it. atm up to 90 is fine, still fairly nippy in acceleration, and just as good round the twisties... i lag behind the riders i go out with in swales, but thats generally cos i'm not good enough to get max use out of the restricted engine atm

No, leave it in just incase you have an accident. The police will want to see that its restricted, and they might not trust a peice of paper! I have 7 and a half months left on my restriction, then I can take it out. Its been a hoot so far, 33bhp more than enough most of the time.

Matt

[yorkie_chris]

it's not worth the risk taking it out IMO, my cousin keeps telling me too (he's been riding for years now) but i'm pretty sure insurance wouldn't like that if anything happened...

You'll get that a lot, people tell me not to bother but its not their license they're risking!

[Dangerous Dave]

To help clarify the licence issue,

16 years plus - 50cc
17 years plus - 33bhp maximum or restricted for 2 years.
21 years plus - restricted for 2 years or direct access (full power)

I passed my restricted test at 17 years and 6 days and just before turning 18 I bought my first SV. At 19 years and 6 days I could ride any bike, despite its power! The restriction is lifted two years from the date you passed the test (A2) even if you are still under 21.

If you are 21 or over you can go for direct access, i.e. pass the test and have full power. Or you could take the restricted test as mentioned above.

[gettin2dizzy]

I rode a KR1s unrestricted and to be honest it's not that much difference bar the top end so unless your doing heavy motorway miles you won't really notice it. 363 Days to the end of my restriction :D
Because they only push out 50ish hp ;)

[Wester]

To help clarify the licence issue,

16 years plus - 50cc
17 years plus - 33bhp maximum or restricted for 2 years.
21 years plus - restricted for 2 years or direct access (full power)

I passed my restricted test at 17 years and 6 days and just before turning 18 I bought my first SV. At 19 years and 6 days I could ride any bike, despite its power! The restriction is lifted two years from the date you passed the test (A2) even if you are still under 21.

If you are 21 or over you can go for direct access, i.e. pass the test and have full power. Or you could take the restricted test as mentioned above.

Not quite :).

16 years plus - 50cc
17 years plus - 125cc maximum or restricted to 33bhp for 2 years.
21 years plus - restricted to 33bhp for 2 years or direct access (full power)

[ljharmitt]

also if late 19/20 take restricted 33bhp test (a2) but if reach 21 before 2 years are up then can take an accelerated test that removes your restriction

[Dangerous Dave]

Thank you 'Wester' for correcting my error, 'Wester' is correct.

16 years plus - 50cc
17 years plus - 125cc maximum or restricted to 33bhp for 2 years.
21 years plus - restricted to 33bhp for 2 years or direct access (full power)

I think that the accelerated test that 'ljharmitt' is talking about is Direct Access. If you reach 21 years of age within your 2 years of a restricted licence you can choose to wait til your 2 years are up or spend money on a Direct Access course and test.

[gettin2dizzy]

I enjoy driving fully insured, with valid road tax and a full valid licence. It's just not enjoyable knowing you're in the wrong. 33hp will be more fun than 70hp minus the option of dicking around a bit in fear of police presence ;)

[ljharmitt]

What 0 - 60mph speeds have people got from a restricted sv?

[Alpinestarhero]

Lj, dont worry about stuff like that. I guess it takes around...5 seconds? I dunno, I havnt timed myself. It gets there easily though, 5000 rpm in 5th gear. Be slick with your changes, and good off the lights, and 60 mph is acheived very easily :D

Its no GSXR750-K6, though

Matt

[ljharmitt]

lol cheers, just wondering if some rs125 gonna come flying past me :(, cause it has more bhp/kg

[Draper]

i know nothing about that bike, but surely an sv would win easily (easily as in its not sounding like a hairdryer and falling apart)

[sv_rider1990]

I doubt very much a RS125 would fly past you. I got told that SV is one of the best bikes to have restricted as the acceleration is not affected as much i would imagine the SV would win and plus you wouldnt want to get an aprillia RS past 70 as it starts straining the engine and would seize it being a 2 Stroke. The only way MAYBE is on a long straight it could do an SV and it RAGGING the BALLS of the Aprillia as they have a claimed 120 top speed but thats before its caught up with the SV i would have thought!

MY Curvey SV standard does 95mph n it does have abit more to go but i ran out of road. I have a Pipercross filter and a Scorpian Can (Baffle out) waiting in the wings so what could i expect out of it then restricted of course?

[yorkie_chris]

Well, if you're going to put the pieprcross filter on it and rejet to suit then you'll probably have more than 33bhp

The law doesn't say your bike should be restricted, it says it has to make less than 33bhp, so you could well be breaking the law, I doubt that they'd bother with court for the 1 or 2 bhp that would be in it like, just advisiing you.

My curvy with 33bhp and a slip on exhaust does about 95, its naked though and I'm not very aerodynamic lol

I doubt you'll notice too much difference

[chris8886]

I enjoy driving fully insured, with valid road tax and a full valid licence. It's just not enjoyable knowing you're in the wrong. 33hp will be more fun than 70hp minus the option of dicking around a bit in fear of police presence ;)

this is me!! turned 21 in september, but don't want to spend the extra money on doing my test again. plus 'pass your test' riding is very different from 'real world riding' IMO!!

Well, if you're going to put the pieprcross filter on it and rejet to suit then you'll probably have more than 33bhp

The law doesn't say your bike should be restricted, it says it has to make less than 33bhp, so you could well be breaking the law, I doubt that they'd bother with court for the 1 or 2 bhp that would be in it like, just advisiing you.

My curvy with 33bhp and a slip on exhaust does about 95, its naked though and I'm not very aerodynamic lol

I doubt you'll notice too much difference

hmmm, i've had an indicated 105mph out of mine down hill wind behind etc etc (on a closed runway ofc!)

[sv_rider1990]

this is me!! turned 21 in september, but don't want to spend the extra money on doing my test again. plus 'pass your test' riding is very different from 'real world riding' IMO!!



hmmm, i've had an indicated 105mph out of mine down hill wind behind etc etc (on a closed runway ofc!)


Yeh but to be fair the MAJORITY of police these days are to lazy to fill out the paper work and unless i was speeding they wouldnt have a reason to pull me over.

[sv_rider1990]

Oh yeh also is it essential to change the jets when putting a air filter and sports can on and if so how hard is it?

[yorkie_chris]

Oh yeh also is it essential to change the jets when putting a air filter and sports can on and if so how hard is it?

If its a proper air filter then yes, things before the carbs effect the mixture way more than things after.

I'll be chopping the guts out of my filter as I'm a skinflint, but apparently this flows pretty well

[sv_rider1990]

Well its just one of them sponges that replaces the paper one :S around £30 - £40 it is?

[yorkie_chris]

Does it have a snorkel/trumpet thing down the middle of it?

[plowsie]

Just to question this, i thought if you reached 21 and took this accelerated test you could have a 44bhp or summit silly like that machine???

[jans1971]

Just to question this, i thought if you reached 21 and took this accelerated test you could have a 44bhp or summit silly like that machine???




if you take the accelerated test , yoiu can ride any bike you want

[yorkie_chris]

You've your wires crossed a bit there, the test must be done on something above 44bhp or something around that region

[sv-robo]

RS125 would fly past you. the Aprillia as they have a claimed 120 top speed
?

i doubt that very much,a freind of a freind has one & he struggles to top 100

and thats totally screwing the t**s off it.=;