New Proto-type Exhaust

[PaulSV650S]

I have asked the question from numerous sport bike owners of what they want from aftermarket exhaust. Sound and looks is always the answer. I have noticed the trend towards smaller exhaust cans but they are still cans. I have looked close to a year for a unique design to fit the shape of the SV and most modern sport bikes. I stumbled across a design that fits very well with the style of the SV and very very unique, compact , agressive looking and lowd as hell. The sound is much of what you think of muscle car (V8) deep roar. The sound is because of the shape of the exhaust. The exhaust is made of stainless steel and is a slip on design. the demensions are 5.5 inches high, 2.5 iches wide/thick , exhaust length is 9.25 with total length of 13 inches. I am in the process of developing the baffle system. I have the no baffle prototype on my bike now. I will supply pics this week. I am looking to take this design retail with in the next few weeks. I may be looking to send samples out to SV owners as test models at little to no cost. I will be posting photos and links to sound bites this week if technology allows. The Exhaust Unit will able to be mounted on the side of the bike off the factory pipe, or with a pipe modification can be mounted under the wheel well area, under tail design.

[Wester]

I'm interested to see this :)

[toonyank]

Wow now that's what I call being bold :D please post pics and links to sound bites I'm game for a try.

[Lissa]

So it will look something like this maybe? Total length 11 inches, and NO baffle:D
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j5/Lissasv650/stubby.jpg

[sinbad]

Interesting, not quite sure what it looks like from the description, so I look forward to some pictures :)

[PaulSV650S]

LIssa nope thats not it. I will have the photos on today if possible.

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I hope the pics are good? let me know what you think?????The sound, let me just say on the way home today I pulled up next to harley at a light he looked at me then looked at his bike and checked his key, then got my attention and said " **** I thought my bike wasn't running, that is one deep tone". ..... it is loud but deep.

[Wester]

that would look so nice underseat.

[G]

Exhausts Uk in sheffield can do identical stuff to this, although I think over here we would be pulled up by the police in no time.

[Kinvig]

It looks like a hoover attachment!!!!






I *think* I want one.....

[Keith1983]

I think it looks good, will it come in carbon? Pleeeeeeeeeeease.

[petevtwin650]

that would look so nice underseat.

Yes if it were turned through 90 degrees.

Sorry, this one is not for me.

[Keith1983]

I think de to the slightly squarer shape that it wouldn't suit the earlier curvy sv's!

[the_lone_wolf]

did someone say vauxhall nova?

;)

[G]

did someone say vauxhall nova?

;)


I said Exhausts UK which is close enough ;) lol

[Bear]

That does look really nice. Is it a straight through can, or is there any compression within the exhaust?

[the_lone_wolf]

I said Exhausts UK which is close enough ;) lol
ah yes, missed that...








innit

;)

[John 675]

looks like a baked bean can.... id love to hear how it sounds though ;)

[husky03]

Nice idea mate and i take my hat off to you for trying,my own opinion is that it looks like its been taken off of a car and stuck on your bike-but if your happy thats all that counts:riding:
husky:)

[riktherider]

dont want to spoil it or nothing, but some bloke in australia of the aussie street fighter website has done the same thing, just under the bike on a tl. he used an adjustable baffle system to alter the sound. really nice looking tl too.

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4510&whichpage=10

very similar just side exit under the bike.

[2mths]

All rather interesting.

I'd love something that gave a deeper rumble

I'm not interest in quantity of sounds (ie being loud) but the quality

[pencil shavings]

dont want to spoil it or nothing, but some bloke in australia of the aussie street fighter website has done the same thing, just under the bike on a tl. he used an adjustable baffle system to alter the sound. really nice looking tl too.

http://www.streetfighters.com.au/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4510&whichpage=10

very similar just side exit under the bike.


that is very nice! should exit both sides though! :cool:

[Smudge]

the more room there is for the sound waves to propergate the more bass youl get i bet it sounds like a tractor but louder not my cup a tea im talking about the aussie one not the bean tin its a bit too short for my likeing but most people prefer that.

[PaulSV650S]

I am working on the baffle now. basicly its two chambers due to the bend. It provides a unique deep tone. The two baffle designs I am looking at will keep the deep tone but keep the db down. I need to know what db level you have for the uk? here in the states there is not a serious requirment but a guide line,,wink wink. I would like to find 2 or 3 k3 or newer owners to test out the system. I will be doing the same here in the states. It will fit best first on a bike that has not changed out the factory can. I will work on putting together a link pipe for bikes that have been cut. Under the seat, it will work fine with a tail tidy. that may come as a kit soon. keep the input comming please.

[Alpinestarhero]

that would look so nice underseat.

Seconded - it would look better underseat, aligned horizontal. Can you make that possible?

What are the effects on engine performance?

Matt

[Keith1983]

I'd definitely try one out! I've got a k6 with the original rocket launcher on!

[sinbad]

I'm still on the factory silencer with my K4, I'd love to try one :)

Oh, and I believe the limit in the UK is 80decibels for modern bikes.

[PaulSV650S]

I am hoping that I can produce in different variations, carbon,ti, colors. Since I am an SV owner I wil be making this mostly for SVs, since all the other bikes have tons of after market stuff. I am truly excited about this. with the v twin note and rythum it is the sound that I hope most are looking for. Most who have seen it here are totaly amazed that it sounds the way it does and how clean it fits to the bike's shape. I value your input. Are the photos good or do you wish more info and photos? Sound Bite soon....

[Keith1983]

I think you're going to get alot of interest from people wanting to help you with the testing mate, I'd love to put myself at the front of the queue! haha.

[thor]

Looks like a nice finish, but I don't like the bend. If it were straight thn I think it would be nice.

I've often thought how cool it would look if the exhaust port on the point SV was inbetween the brake light clusters.

[SV_Ridin_Newb]

so will this fit on the older 99-02 model? cause, pending hearing the sound and the variations available (I'd prefer carbon fiber...), I'd definitely be down for pickin this up! Especially if you were to do that under seat kit.

More pics would definately be appreciated. Maybe a few more from a lower angle and a few wider shots to be able to take in the look with the whole bike in mind?

Rad project though buddy!

[PaulSV650S]

more pics on the way.

[ClemsonSV]

I'd be more than happy to put myself on the list. I have a jardin semi full exhaust right now and love the deep sound. Deeper would be nice though just for a try! Plus I'm only about 600 miles away! Do they come angled off at the top and pointing straight backwards like a conventional exhaust?

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[SV_Ridin_Newb]

sweet man. will this fit the first gen version of the bike or only the second gen? what kind of price were you thinking? were you planning on keeping it looking clean or putting a logo on it?

[PaulSV650S]

I do not know much about the First Gen bikes. do they have 2.25 inch pipe? if so it should work. About the logo what is your input? I like it clean if anything I may ingrave a small name on it? let me know what you think.

[SV_Ridin_Newb]

From a business standpoint I would have the logo on there, maybe small and along the exit end of the exhaust vertically or horizonal along the bottom edge of it?

I agree that engraving would be the way to go, not attaching a 'name plate' or something. I do prefer it looking clean though, but one really should if they want to build name recognition for their product.

what name are you thinking for the 'company' or whatever?

As to the first gen exhaust pipe, I'm not sure. I just got my '01 SV650S (my first bike) a month ago and am definitely still learning tons about it!

[PaulSV650S]

Ryker is the company. this is my first move in the bike world to Ryker. plus it is the Name of my Pit Bull / Staf terrier

[DoubleD]

I really like the look of the "Ryker" exhaust. Fantastic work.

Will the baffel be e marked for the MOT places here in the UK?

[Keith1983]

Will the exhaust effect fuelling?

[PaulSV650S]

sound bite at You Tube Suzuki SV Prototype Exhaust... take a look sorry about the weak video. My digi camera took a noise dive.

[PaulSV650S]

I will put on the market three variations to start off with. No Baffle.
1 chamber baffle and a 2 chamber baffle. Chamber I am refering to the two chambers of the exhaust.

[PaulSV650S]

The baffles will be ready next week. Please let me know what you think of the You Tube Vid. I will put another vid on tonight of the bike in motion.

[kwak zzr]

wheres the link to the vid?

[haggis]

Lookey here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPBLofRIpzs

[PaulSV650S]

Is the sound OK? There will be more. give me input to what you guys are looking for??????

[Keith1983]

It sounds fantastic, just can't be ridiculously loud, a removable baffle would be fantastic.

[PaulSV650S]

No problem. The baffle will not be the traditional type you see on cans. It will be a modular unit.

[SV_Ridin_Newb]

grr, I need to get off work to hear it- damn IT dept. has blocked all the ability to watch video....

[sinbad]

It sounds good, but tbh it's hard to really judge from a video. It sounds better if I turn up the bass on my speakers for example :)

[PaulSV650S]

grr, I need to get off work to hear it- damn IT dept. has blocked all the ability to watch video....


Here let me hook you up...vrummm vrummm vrummm blug blug blug blug


;)

[SV_Ridin_Newb]

Here let me hook you up...vrummm vrummm vrummm blug blug blug blug


;)


LOL, nice :p

[Robw#70]

Imho it would look more 'finished' if the front edge was tapered in to the linkpipe.

[somnus]

I`ve got a scorpion street extreme on my k7. Boy is it loud without the baffle. I`ll try one out for you, cops dont really give a **** about how loud it is over here.
http://www.scorpion-exhausts.com/Bikes/search3.php?model=201#bot
check this out its a stubby like yours.

[the_lone_wolf]

I`ve got a scorpion street extreme on my k7. Boy is it loud without the baffle. I`ll try one out for you, cops dont really give a **** about how loud it is over here.
http://www.scorpion-exhausts.com/Bikes/search3.php?model=201#bot
check this out its a stubby like yours.
beast

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4deGJypg4Nc

:D

[PaulSV650S]

There are two more vids on You Tube to listen to.

[PaulSV650S]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpTbPhm84zw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0J8ZpI2aZc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPBLofRIpzs

[PaulSV650S]

Are the You Tube Vids enough? I will get better quality ones on soon I hope.

[SV_Ridin_Newb]

Are the You Tube Vids enough? I will get better quality ones on soon I hope.

Looks and sounds good to me? I'd like to hear how it sounds a little higher in the revs when its just sittin there. Maybe up to around 9k? Another idea might be having someone drive next to you while riding so we could get a little better idea of how it sounds in motion (as its kinda hard to get much definition in the riding ones you have up...). Sounds pretty rad though!

[sinbad]

Sounds good and boomy to me.

[ratindahat]

If you need a stateside tester, i'd be down. I'm on svr as well.

[northwind]

You need to record it with a better mic, to be honest... And get some noise numbers too. Sounds decent under load though

[ratindahat]

Here is a perk for me as a tester. I do a lot of recording and have decent gear so i could get some good recordings of it and some spl numbers.

Let me know.

-Dusty-

[Stu]

I'm still on the factory silencer with my K4, I'd love to try one :)

Oh, and I believe the limit in the UK is 80decibels for modern bikes.
I reckon 105dB at 5,000 revs which I rekon is normal trackday limit would be a good level to aim for for the UK market.
I don't think anyone would pay money for an aftemarket can delivering 80dB at 5,000 revs.

As to a logo - definetely, to take away from the homemade image.

[ratindahat]

something like this might look nice as well.

http://www.sfxperformance.com/parts/TOUT833.htm

[mwhitlock84]

sounds amazing...looks different..not bad...i second the idea of not having the pipe end of the muffler so square..

[mwhitlock84]

one big thing,maybe most important, is how does it affect the bike.performance wise... gain power? lose it? smooth it out? would a remap be necessary? hows the cornering clearance? all things i would find out before buying any any exhaust

[SV andy]

well if u want a logo...or anyone else for that matter...let me know...ex-dtp/graphic designer. give me some basic names and shapes u want and i'll rustle u some up.

[PaulSV650S]

one big thing,maybe most important, is how does it affect the bike.performance wise... gain power? lose it? smooth it out? would a remap be necessary? hows the cornering clearance? all things i would find out before buying any any exhaust


Clearance is clear it is higher than your foot peg and not as far out as the peg. Opening up exhaust is always a performance plus. It is smooth across the power band. remap is always recommended if you want the most out any mod. This has all the things I belive most of us are looking for. It is original looking, sounds deep and it helps performance.

[northwind]

remap is always recommended if you want the most out any mod.

Yup, but the question is, is it neccesary? For most slipons, it's not... And no slipon for the SV gives enough power or responsiveness to justify the cost of a full remap on top of the can, for most people, so being able to run it without fuelling work would be a real benefit. You probably need to get your prototype on a dyno to get some numbers (if you do it, try and borrow a real mic and record it, btw, no better way to hear an exhaust)

[ratindahat]

Any ideas on the baffle yet?

[ClemsonSV]

I know at least 6 or 7 people up here on sv's that would be interested in buying this already! It sounds great and an undertail pipe would look even better!

[PaulSV650S]

They will be on the market the first part of september. The baffle, it's will be a modular design not like what you see in common cans.

[SV_Ridin_Newb]

what will the db levels be with the baffle out? with it in?

and I definitely second the whole dyno bit. I'd need to see that to be serious about buying it.


also, you mentioned underseat at one point. Will there be just the side mount setup at the initial release, or will you have an underseat option available at the initial release?

[ratindahat]

How are they measuring DB levels for other exhausts? I don't mean equipment wise, i mean positioning, distance, under load or free-rev, etc.. Any info would be great.

Thanks,

[Jdubya]

How are they measuring DB levels for other exhausts? I don't mean equipment wise, i mean positioning, distance, under load or free-rev, etc.. Any info would be great.

Thanks,
I think for MSV trackdays its measured at 5000rpm at a distance of around 1m from the exhaust.

[Stu]

20 inches away at 45 degrees from exhaust at half revs of peak power.

[PaulSV650S]

I have a couple of guys from this site who will help with the testing and info report on dbs. I did not realize the UK had so many sound regs. I will make sure that they meet the laws.

[PaulSV650S]

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[northwind]

Your links don't seem to work

[SV_Ridin_Newb]

so is this still going on?

[tocrank]

so is this still going on?

+1

[ratindahat]

20 inches away at 45 degrees from exhaust at half revs of peak power.

at half-revs of peak power??? might need to explain that one

[monkey]

Yup, but the question is, is it neccesary? For most slipons, it's not... And no slipon for the SV gives enough power or responsiveness to justify the cost of a full remap on top of the can, for most people, so being able to run it without fuelling work would be a real benefit. You probably need to get your prototype on a dyno to get some numbers (if you do it, try and borrow a real mic and record it, btw, no better way to hear an exhaust)

I think it sounds like when I started my bike midway through fitting my end can i.e. when it had no can on at all. Has it got any sound deadening inside it at all? Mr plod and his mighty plodulike's would love that! I reckon that would affect the fuelling. Just a gut feeling thing as I have no experience in anything similar but I wouldn't like to put that on with someones word for it. For the UK market I'd look into a road baffle and a quieter than standard track baffle as some tracks are funny about noise.

On a second note have you figured out how much more it would cost us UK folk?

Looked good to me.

Monkeydoodledandy.
:)

[ThEGr33k]

This is a summary of what you need for us in the UK

1) Removable baffle's for MOT time... (also not too loud with baffles in, I think 97DB would be the limit.)

2) Noise ratings of each of your products.

3) Dyno run

4) What the fueling situation is with this can on. (this i think you can find out from the Dyno run :)

I admit this might cost a lot but itll be worth it because you will probably get more interest in the product!

Ive not managed to listen to it yet as im from work but if it isnt much quieter than without any end can i think itll be a little too loud. (ive been wanting to ride with no can but it might be a bad idea :(

[PaulSV650S]

I project is still on. Sorry I have not logged on lately. Been trying to get the Business up and running. I am making sure that the baffle is completely either permanet or removeable. I have gotten a lot of good response from the unit. I will have DYNO numbers soon. They will be on U.S. E-bay this month. if you have any questions please send them to rykertech@aol.com the free ones will be to you soon. hold on I'm trying to make sure it is perfect. Thanks again for the input.....:cheers:

[ratindahat]

lookin forward to testing and seeing one in person.

[PaulSV650S]

Guys,
It's Funny how my priorities do not match the priorities of my contract manufacture. It looks like the first week of October now. Starting a new company is fun..... I will not let you guys down. Thank you for the continued threads. I will list it On Ebay and my web sight for purchase as soon as the baffles are ready to go. October I promise.
Thanks
Paul

[ClemsonSV]

It's October!!! I hope I'm not getting prematurely excited. I road into work today with a guy on a small harley and had to smile to myself and say..." You just wait, I'll show you!" What's the word Paul?