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buying an R Reg with 15000miles on the clock, no service history but cheap....
gave it a test ride, all seemed hunky dory exceopt for the hinge that appeared in the middle of the bike when tackling a turn....!
i reckon thats cos iof the tyres, the front is a size too big !
Anyone got any experience of the Kwak?
That'll be a "G" model then...
There's few will know that bike better than Sid Squid, his one's knocking on the door of 100,000 miles now...
I have the slightly later J model which is the same apart from some detail changes. Good bike, handles well, reliable. Check the usual things like bearings, tyre pressures, profile etc....
Tyre sizes for the G should be 120/60 R17 front, 170/60 R17 rear.
gettin2dizzy
28-08-07, 04:45 PM
I'm no expert whatsoever, but a different front tyre on such a focused bike to me would suggest maybe a frontal impact - ie front end replacement on the cheap.
Flamin_Squirrel
28-08-07, 05:23 PM
The standard front tyre is 120/65 on the G, isn't it?
Changing the front tyre size is not an indication of a front end impact. The different size would just make the handling different.
The G model is 60 profile, the J model is 65 profile (exactly the same wheel though). Anything in 120/60, 120/65 or 120/70 is going to be ok. It was probably just down to what was either available or cheap when they were fitted.
Biker Biggles
28-08-07, 06:22 PM
Worn tyres is one thing but really bad handling requires a very hard look at the chassis.Wheel bearings headraces and swingarm bearings,and check the wheel alignment.Do the bars match for distance from the tank both sides lock to lock?Forks straight?
How cheap?Don't pay the asking price.;)
gave it a test ride, all seemed hunky dory exceopt for the hinge that appeared in the middle of the bike when tackling a turn....!
Possably a squared tyre or wheel bearings, feinds bike had shot rear wheel bearings and it was iffy to turn.
Sid Squid
28-08-07, 08:31 PM
An 'R' reg will be either a late F3 or early G1.
Standard F tyres are 120/60 and 160/60, Gs wear 120/60 and 170/60, but as Jambo rightly points out the wheel sizes didn't change for the subsequent models but the standard tyre sizes were altered, thus it isn't unusual to find various G, J and A models with various tyre sizes fitted - 60-65-70 profile. FS is right, the handling will be different, but none of these fitments will make it wrong - just different.
It's a bit of a leap from saying something has a odd size tyre to thinking it's been front ended.
depends how cheap
i would not be too worried abot service history on a bike of that age, my blade did not have any, but was to cheap not to buy, but its a honda so alls peachy
northwind
29-08-07, 12:21 AM
I'm no expert whatsoever, but a different front tyre on such a focused bike to me would suggest maybe a frontal impact - ie front end replacement on the cheap.
To me, it'd just suggest someone's fitted the wrong tyre- I think they use 120/60 as standard, but 120/70 is often easier to find, especially when you need a tyre quick for a puncture repair etc.
stuartyboy
29-08-07, 03:53 AM
I'm no expert whatsoever, but a different front tyre on such a focused bike to me would suggest maybe a frontal impact - ie front end replacement on the cheap.
That is pure utter complete ******** - frontal impact??? How many Kwaks have you ridden? I have a 70 profile on my kwak - so what does that mean?
Agree with all of the above... I have a 120/60 on my ZX7 instead of the 120/70 as standard, because it was cheap (ie free) - and it hasn't half made the bike steer nicely.
gettin2dizzy
29-08-07, 08:45 AM
Chilll :) ....I did say I knew nothing about this first!
I meant that if i'd found there was something different on the front of my second hand bike, I'd have a second glance to see if it was a cheapo ebay fix. That's all. I'd imagine anyone else would do the same
gettin2dizzy
29-08-07, 08:46 AM
That is pure utter complete ******** - frontal impact??? How many Kwaks have you ridden? I have a 70 profile on my kwak - so what does that mean?
wake up on the wrong side of bed? ;)
wake up on the wrong side of bed? ;)
I think he's just tried of people saying " I don't know anything about this so here's my advice" ;)
stuartyboy
29-08-07, 10:56 AM
wake up on the wrong side of bed? ;)
Who me? ;)
An 'R' reg will be either a late F3 or early G1.
Worth checking this out:
F model:
http://www.ecbate.co.uk/Used%20Bikes%20Images/111974F.JPG
G model:
http://www.koups.com/sales/kawasaki/images/1998%20models/zx600g1grn.jpg
Fair difference between the two. neither are expensive 2nd hand. See if you can check the usual "hinge in the middle" suspects mentioned above:
Wheel bearings
Head races
Swing arm bearings
Shot tyres
Forks / shock.
None of the above are terribly expensive to sort, but it's all about haggling points isn't it? :D
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