Grassing on your benefit fraud neighbours.

[Razor]

We have these awful neighbours. They stare, make comments throw rubbish into our garden and stick nails under our tyres(unproved, but it's them alright)

They're on benefits, he's supposedly disabled and she is down as the carer. They have a brand new mobility car and holiday abroad twice a year.
He's so disabled that he just removed the fence panels and painted them, mows his own lawn and dug a goldfish pond in the back garden last year.
He has threatened us with violence in the past, is fond of a fag and a drink at the local pub where his missus works.

So we've had enough and phoned the benefit fraud section and spoke to them. Initially the bloke didn't seem very interested, but after he did some checking he came back and asked a load of questions, very interested.

I feel no guilt and hope others will do the same to these free loading swine.
That is all.

[Luckypants]

Good man! :thumbsup:

[tigersaw]

Good man! :thumbsup: +1

[kwak zzr]

i'd do the same:) its people like that who give everyone on the mobility scheme a bad name.

[caz650s]

Well done mate I would have done the same.

[Ceri JC]

Nice work. A mate works busting benefit frauds and it's hilarious, one guy with a "bad back" actually broke a couple of weight lifting records! :)

[Samnooshka]

Good on you!!! i'd do the same!!! Wish more people would do this to stop freeloaders!!

[Hazzar]

:smt081:smt038:thumleft:=D>:notworthy::notworthy::notworthy::notworthy:Well done mate good on you i would do the same my old neighbours used to be like that late night partys when i had to be up at 4 in the morning so i fitted a bigger exhaust started it up at 4.30 am let it warm up then reved the life out of it hit the kill switch back on again and all hell broke loose when it went bang :D they toned it down after that.

[Blue_SV650S]

Good lad :)

I wonder what percentage of 'benefit' people are fraudulent or taking advantage (i.e. stretching what they should more legitimately get).

Does anyone actually know anyone on benefits that 'deserve' it???

There is a woman down my street ... mobility car ... they installed a disabled parking spot ... now she does have a bit of a hobble, but she seems perfectly mobile to me ... perhaps the hobble is not the disability, just a side effect, but I am not convinced she is THAT bad ...

Oh and you can actually be registered disabled if you are an alcoholic ... as well as other benefits they get £500 a week toward their 'habit' ... boy does that make me mad!!! :smt093

Oh and being disabled they are entitled to a motorbility car ... an Alcoholic gets a CAR?!!?!? I don't even care if their 'carer' is sober, but do they really need a car if their lives exist of being down the pub drunk?!?! ... :neutral:

I wonder if I can list my addiction to speed (the 'need for speed', not the drug :p) as a disability ... imagine that ... I get a gixer thou on the gov ... and a fully paid for trackday every week :cool: :D

[Ed]

Benefit fraud is endemic. So much so that there's a regular weekly report in the local rag of all the people convicted of it. Usually about half a dozen a week.

[Wideboy]

good man:thumright:

[skint]

... Calling Neio79!! I think you will be top of his chrimbo card list:D

You've done the right thing. I hate lying lazy cheats like these [-X - their actions make it so much more difficult for genuine claimants who get tarred with the same brush.

Lets hope they get what they deserve.

[seedy100]

Well Razor it seems the the .org in general think that its
ok to grass up your neighbour just because they are a little difficult.

The only thing I have to say about it is:-









What took you so long!
Freeloading scumbags deserve everything thats coming to them.

[neio79]

Yes well done you , i hate people like that , grass on them, video diary them for proof .

well done you. :eek:

[muffles]

Good stuff & let us know how it goes... :D

[Biker Biggles]

Well at some risk of being in a very small minority I wouldn't have done that.
I actually agree with most of the above posts,and I hate the freeloaders too,but I hate the interfering busy body nanny state even more,so I wouldn't grass up the scum other than in very serious circumstances.;)

[Razor]

They're sucking on the teat of the nanny state, when there's nothing wrong with them, they should be out working and paying tax like the rest of us. I don't know about you but my yearly NI contribution should be spent towards something other than freeloading bastids.

[Jackie_Black]

Nails under tyres are serious enough, well done.

[Biker Biggles]

Like I said I kind of agree,but I think a grass thy neighbour society is marginally worse than one with freeloading scum in it.
Same in the workplace.I am currently watching the outfit I work for going through a grass thy workmate fashion and watching the ensuing destruction.
I reluctantly conclude that the old way of tolerating a few bad apples was hugely better than the paranoia that exists now.I also understand how wrong the nothing to hide then nothing to fear brigade are.We all have our faults and foibles,and zero tolerance eventually bites everyone.
Ive digressed a bit-----Must put more water in the gin.:D

[Warthog]

Well done!

[Dave The Rave]

Well grassed!

[Razor]

Like I said I kind of agree,but I think a grass thy neighbour society is marginally worse than one with freeloading scum in it.


I agree to a point.
I'd rather just go next door and knock the snot out of the whole family. before I moved in with my GF, they made life very difficult. He put up a fence in such a way that she's now forced to take the wheelie bin through the house. When she tried to take the bin around the ginnel, they would come out of the house and shout at her. Both the husband and wife have waved theri fists under her nose. They threw her wheelie bin into her front garden and their fave trick is to use it to block the cat flap if she doesn't move it quickly enough for them.

He's so disabled but works on cars in his driveway, my GF had to replace 5 tyres last year, they won't plug it if it's right on the edge of the tread... Each time it's been a black drywall screw.
When I met her they stood in their garden and told me all about her and her bad habits, telling me I'd be better off with someone else. They did this at the top of their drunken voices. I told them to mind their own business or I'd knock the snot out of the whole lot of them. They called the police...

As he doesn't work, he sits in his lounge all day and watches everybody come and go. When my GF's teenage daughter was home alone he sometimes left their house and peered through the front window. Running back to his when somebody drove up the street.

We took a taxi into town the other night and the driver, said,"You live next to ......, how do you bloody stand him and his noncey ways?"

Lets just say these neighbours have been throwing stones from that glass house for long enough.

[Miss Alpinestarhero]

I would have done the same.

Maria

[Biker Biggles]

Now grassing someone for nonceing is a different matter completely.Might be worth your while looking harder into that with a view to getting rid of said scum for good.
Failing that a word in the right place might get some blokes round with a baseball bat or two.:D
Don't do that yourself,far too obvious.;)

[Ed]

Should have made it plain in my earlier posts. I'd grass em up too. I hate thieves, which is what these people are.

[philipMac]

Would people who have a problem with grassing others who commit fraud have a problem about notifying police they caught them robbing money out of your wallet, or stuff off your bike?

Its fraud. Theft. A crime. And you are personally paying for it.


Fair play razor as far as I am concerned. Its a pity there are not more like you.



Edit, despite some cops behavior, cops are our servants. They are there to protect people, and look after us. This notion that not giving police information is tough is brain dead. These sort of people, almost always whine on about all sorts of draconian punishments they see for others, wont actually assist the police, whose sole job it is to bring people who break the law to justice.

Its a ridiculous concept to hold on to.

[Bluewolf]

Behind you all the way mate. My dad is an antisocial behaviour officer for the council and he's full of stories about people like this. They make life miserable for their neighbours and think by screaming "human rights" and stamping their little feet gives them carte blanche to carry on being a worthless waste of protoplasm.

I was brought up to believe there was no such thing as a free lunch. Seeing these freeloading barstewards living the life of Riley off my taxes absolutely boils my ****.

[SV andy]

i actually work in benefits :rolleyes: (for obvious reasons can't say which :-$) & majority of the "small fish" do get caught...just takes a while.
the main thing at the minute is organised fraud...people/gangster's/firms are running "companies" to defraud the state systems out of tens of millions of pounds every year...this is the tax payers money...YOUR MONEY!!
there are genuine people out there who need these benefits...whilst others do jack **** and claim for anything & everything.
so my opinion on this is...if u know someone is doing it...GRASS EM UP! :smt071

as far as grassing in work...depends on severity doesn't it? as i said i work in benefits, if someone is actually helping people to defraud the system, then they should be shopped as well...thieving's thieving - whether its from the local shop, your car/bike, the government, employer etc. [-X

this country is backward in the way benefits are given...far too trustworthy.
can't go into specific details - but people often call & ask - if this happens to me / if i have a child / if i separate from my partner etc etc, how much money can i claim for! people actually base their future & other peoples futures on how much they can claim. :confused:

i hope if u ever had any doubts about shopping these people, that this has changed your minds...if not then u might as well join them, cos u are just as bad if u know someone is doing it but don't do anything yourself. :mad:

[Lissa]

Nice one, Razor.

I'm sure a molotov cocktail would be the preferred way of dealing with scum like your neighbours, but for some reason that kind of thing is frowned upon:D

People like them are not only making hard-working people pay to support them, they are taking the **** out of all those genuinely disabled people who need the help of benefits.

[stuartyboy]

They're sucking on the teat of the nanny state.

I met a girl fram laandan once who wanted me to suck on the teat fa 9 hours. tickled me she did.

[Stingo]

Keel haul the lot of 'em I say...then make 'em walk the plank!! And they can kiss the gunner's daughter before standeasy!!

As for Terry Tibbs - he's a character isn't he? :D

Makes I laugh.

[melody]

Good on you Razor. I work way too hard for my money to be funding such misdemeanours.

[K]

I'd probably best stay ouy of this one or it'll put me in a bad mood for most of the day. ;)

I will say 'well done Razor' though. :thumbsup:

[helen]

Would have done exactly the same - well done.

[Fizzy Fish]

i'm generally more of a live and let live mentality - most of us aren't 100% squeeky clean, so i wouldn't be quick to snitch on someone else

that said though, i think their behaviour definitely warrants what you did. If they brag about their freeloading ways and act like tossers to other people, then they have to face the fact that karma will catch up with them!

[Pedrosa]

Such intolerance on the good ship SV ORG. Whatever happened to the "live and let live" mentality...even if you are funding it from deductions from earnings?:rolleyes:

[Ed]

Such intolerance on the good ship SV ORG. Whatever happened to the "live and let live" mentality...even if you are funding it from deductions from earnings?:rolleyes:

But you're a resident of the Kingdom of Spain - so you're not paying for these people, no?

[5v5 rider]

regardless to whether they're registered disabled or not (sore subject) if theyre behaving like that then they deserve everything they get!! Good on YA!!:D But as someone mentioned earlier about a woman down their street has a slight hobble being 'faking it' is a little uneducated I believe[-X...my wife is registered disabled due to a certain surgeon ****ing up an operation which should have been pretty straight forward, she now has to suffer with chronic nerve pain for the rest of her life and the ONLY thing that helps in any way (and its only 5% reduction of constant,never ending pain) is the old mary jane...try smoking that when youre tryin for a child!! I think not. That said, she struggles on with a smile hiding tears. If you saw her down the street you'd probably think 'oh yeah, another freeloader!!'. You couldnt be farther from the truth , so unless you know the person and that they ARE taking the pi55 best not to mention things like that as its bound to cause offence.

BTW - my wife works 40 hours a week in an office so she does at least pay taxes but she DOES claim disability/mobility benefits.

rant over.

[northwind]

if this happens to me / if i have a child / if i separate from my partner etc etc, how much money can i claim for! people actually base their future & other peoples futures on how much they can claim. :confused:

Fair enough, but "I am in an abusive/damaging.miserable relationship with kids, and I'm terrified that if I leave I'll not be able to support them, what benefits can I claim" is a fair enough question, no? If I have a child, less so, since IMO you shouldn't be spawning if you can't support them yourself, but there's still circumstances where it makes sense to ask, ie self employed or in a shaky industry.

The thing I hate about benefit fraud isn't that they're stealing from me- though they are. It's that they're stealing from the benefits pot that goes to help people who need it. If you take, say, a mobility grant or car that you don't need, someone else who does might not be getting it.

Let's think outside the box for punishment. Lets say you claim money and support for a crippling injury for 5 years then get caught and proven to be on the take. You've had 5 years of support with no injury, maybe we should cripple you and you can do 5 years without support, you've already used yours up

(sort of like Mark Thomas's idea that in the case of wrongful imprisonment, the victim should be given a shopping list of crimes they can commit. "Well sir, we owe you 10 years of prison- you may commit 3 large scale frauds, or 2 armed robberies..."

[Pedrosa]

The problem is indeed very deep rooted, with massive numbers of people seeing the system as fair game to be cheated. Where did that kind of mentality come from?

Young girls going out and getting pregnant knowing that the state will provide for them?

People working on the quiet when registered on the dole? All so wrong. Change the rules I say.

If your on the dole, you aint out looking for work every day and evidence of job applications etc should be provided. Signing on at varying times EVERY day oif the week should also be introduced.

If each branch of the Social Services,(sorry my terminology is likely to be off due to my prolonged absence) increased their team of investigators the investment would I am sure have an impact.

Sadly, I think offering a "bounty" for the reporting of bogus claimants would be another incentive for people to speak up more.

With an ever increasing life expectancy and record numbers of retired people in the years to come, these spongers and frauds are removing funds from the kitty that would provide services,facilities and income for those that have contributed via PAYE. The problem then must be stampoed out. But then again you might all be happy to see the % of your NI contributions constantly increase?

[muffles]

(sort of like Mark Thomas's idea that in the case of wrongful imprisonment, the victim should be given a shopping list of crimes they can commit. "Well sir, we owe you 10 years of prison- you may commit 3 large scale frauds, or 2 armed robberies..."


I don't know if it's an urban myth (it certainly sounds like the kind of thing that would be) but I have heard a couple of times that if (for example) you are set up for someone's murder, and you serve the time and are released, if you then find them alive you can murder them without repercussions because you have served the penalty for that crime!

It sounds faker the more I hear it though...haha

[PsychoCannon]

Double jepordy? you can't be tried twice for the same crime?
If you get sent down and do the time for murdering someone who turns up alive then surely if you kill them (and who would blame ya!) they can't send you down for the same crime? =p

[Viney]

Its all crap. My mum cant get damn thing. Shes 60, on her own, but because she works full time she cant get a rent rebate or anything like that. Yet if she gave up work she would be better off by about £50 a month, but her pride stops her doing it. Its so wrong.

[gettin2dizzy]

Tonight Panorama (8.30?) is doing a report on how hard it is for kids to get jobs - but the two I saw on it this morning looked like such no-hopers!
It sounded like they wanted to be astronauts with only bloody A levels!
"moan moan to hard moan" ;)
One happened to have a certain Jesus look going on... (i am in no way saying jesus looked like a scruffy chemistry student with food in his beard......


but he fricking does! ;))