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hovis
03-09-07, 11:03 AM
if i was to get a bracket welded on my ally frame, would i need to disconect anything? battrry electrics etc?
Keith1983
03-09-07, 11:05 AM
I wouldn't fancy welding anything onto the frame for fear of weakening it.
DanAbnormal
03-09-07, 11:15 AM
I wouldn't fancy welding anything onto the frame for fear of weakening it.

Are you welding a faster bike to your frame?!?!:p
hovis
03-09-07, 01:01 PM
Are you welding a faster bike to your frame?!?!:p
no need.............. as i already have the fastest bike

now please answer the question:smt079
DanAbnormal
03-09-07, 02:56 PM
no need.............. as i already have the fastest bike

now please answer the question:smt079

Oops.

I would be very hesitant to weld anything to the frame due to issues of strength. What on earth are you welding to your frame?
hovis
03-09-07, 02:58 PM
one of the headlight brackets has come off
gettin2dizzy
03-09-07, 03:02 PM
honda reliability? ;)
Stu
03-09-07, 03:09 PM
So is there not a front sub frame involved that you can remove from the bike for welding - would resolve all issues?
hovis
03-09-07, 03:30 PM
So is there not a front sub frame involved that you can remove from the bike for welding - would resolve all issues?

no
tomjones2
03-09-07, 04:00 PM
If its relevant on the long way round they stuffed some of the electric welding on one of there bikes, i think it was the abs.
TSM
03-09-07, 04:03 PM
things like the reg need to be disconnected for saftey or you will fry the diodes inside i think
hovis
03-09-07, 04:29 PM
things like the reg need to be disconnected for saftey or you will fry the diodes inside i think

things like?

would that include the coil, batterey err anything else:confused:
Pedrosa
03-09-07, 05:17 PM
As far as I am aware, disconnect the battery for safety and ensure a good earth is made from the welding equipment to the bike. You should be then good to go.(I am of course assuming....as most I think....that you plan to use electric welding)

Please feel free to correct me peoples If I am talking sh*te.:rolleyes:
TSM
03-09-07, 05:19 PM
all i remember apart from disconnecting the battery, was to also disconect the regulator, this is what squid did when he wealded my front subframe in situ.
chazzyb
03-09-07, 05:31 PM
As far as I am aware, disconnect the battery for safety and ensure a good earth is made from the welding equipment to the bike. You should be then good to go.(I am of course assuming....as most I think....that you plan to use electric welding)

Please feel free to correct me peoples If I am talking sh*te.:rolleyes:

Araldite. or Blue tack :p
hovis
03-09-07, 05:37 PM
is Araldite strong enough?
squirrel_hunter
03-09-07, 05:39 PM
is Araldite strong enough?

No, not for what you want. Get it welded.
Wideboy
03-09-07, 05:58 PM
what about silver soldering? still involves heating up though
squirrel_hunter
03-09-07, 06:26 PM
anything else:confused:

Just had a thought, as welding is essentially a transfer of heat and the lug is on the headstock and I don't know how hot it would get you may want to consider the removal of the bearings or inspection of their grease there after. I'm not a welder just something that sprang to mind.

For those of you who are wondering and to help with any advice here is a picture of my CBRs head stock, the design is very similar...

http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s216/squirrel_hunters_photos/Photo-0149-1.jpg

There is in the picture two bolts on the headstock, on Hovis' bike these are attached to the frame as protruding lugs and not a single lump like mine. However they both do the same job, that of holding the front subframe to the main frame. The top lug has detached from the headstock on Hovis' bike, this is what needs to be reattached.

HTH
hovis
03-09-07, 08:09 PM
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k295/hovi5/dcp_2683.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k295/hovi5/dcp_2680.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k295/hovi5/dcp_2679.jpg
Richie
03-09-07, 08:33 PM
You could alway use JB Weld.... we use E-Metal in the forces, Bloody good stuff, not sure if it would work on Ally though...

get a proffesional to do it, if he screws up you can get him to pay for the fix... just a thought.
TSM
03-09-07, 08:33 PM
Just get it properly ally wealded, do it right first time.

I tried to use JB weald on a ally gear peice and it just broke so easly.
hovis
03-09-07, 08:41 PM
took it to a freind of a freind, and they said it can be done, but the head fairing & ignition all need to come off & maybe the forks, before he can do it, which i will have to do then get the bike to him somehow?.
he said dont try to fix it with any type of metal glue as this will make it harder to weld when it brakes again, which it will.

so im thinking of taking it to a bike shop, and getting them to sort it
squirrel_hunter
03-09-07, 09:50 PM
took it to a freind of a freind, and they said it can be done, but the head fairing & ignition all need to come off & maybe the forks, before he can do it, which i will have to do then get the bike to him somehow?.


Strip the bike down to the frame and take it to him, a five minute job I promise. Alternatively drive the bike over to him with all the plastics off, take with you a tool kit and a jack, and strip the front end off there and then. Get him to weld it and then reassemble. If your going to do this practice at home a couple of times to get the time span down and ensure you have all the tools.

Other than that get him to come to using your feminine wilds and promise off free beer.