View Full Version : Bike's just been stolen!
muffles
05-09-07, 06:36 AM
Overnight - came out and it's gone :(
Time to see if this tracker I just got fitted works...however can't get hold of anyone to track it for me yet :smt013
ukgooner
05-09-07, 06:47 AM
Sorry to hear that, hope you get it back or at least have a hassle free time on the claim if not!
My mate at work had his Fireblade nicked earlier in the year and had a fight with the Insurance co as it was not in a "locked garage", it was parked in a secure parking basement under his flat!! They paid up in the end, but was hassle for him!
ASM-Forever
05-09-07, 06:53 AM
**** news!
Good luck with resolving it.
Oh no. :(
Sorry to hear this, hope you get it back.
Oh poo, hope the tracker turns out to have been a good investment.
muffles
05-09-07, 07:00 AM
Thanks guys, just trying to get access to the tracker at the minute, it's one where I can log in myself and that would have been ideal! Except the f*cking web page/site is down :smt013 and both me & my installer are having trouble getting hold of the company.
Al_Sweetman
05-09-07, 07:03 AM
Unlucky mate - that's my worst fear every morning too, as I park her in a car park and every morning I dread coming round the corner to an empty space!
Hope that tracker works for you - I've been considering getting one - if it does work, I think it'll become a "must-have" for me!
Got my fingers crossed!
muffles
05-09-07, 07:07 AM
I just need a plan of what to do when I find out where it is... (aside from phone the police, I mean)
fat_brstd
05-09-07, 07:29 AM
phone the police anyway, an insurance company wont pay for a theft out without a police report.
petevtwin650
05-09-07, 07:32 AM
Sorry to read this.
Every bike owners nightmare.:smt088
A*se. What make of tracker you got fitted?
grrrr!
Let us know about the tracker!
Why are London thieves nicking svs?
Can't they nick summat else, like a BMW?
muffles
05-09-07, 07:38 AM
I've already phoned the police, I mean if/when I find it.
I've got a tracker where they use a web page and the sodding web page is down, but basically it's one where you can ping it and stuff yourself, it also has 3 methods of communication to help get round people stuffing it in metal containers and the like.
Hey you know what really takes the p*ss - if the police recover it they charge me! And I have to sign up to the scheme (which I did) - it's £105 + VAT plus £12 a day storage if they find it! And here was me thinking it was their job...
Sorry to hear about this :( Must be a horrible feeling walking round the corner to not see your bike :(
Hope the tracker works out for you and you get the bike back in a decent state.
Well, i would say that if the bike does not get found because they have removed the tracker there is a possable case against the tracking company, i bet the insurance company would have somthing to say about it if its listed in your insurance policy.
muffles
05-09-07, 07:57 AM
It's not listed in the policy I'm afraid, but that's because they told me trackers don't mean a sodding thing to them! Haha...they only care about having the alarm on it. However yeah a few words with the company are required...
Well, i would say that if the bike does not get found because they have removed the tracker there is a possable case against the tracking company, i bet the insurance company would have somthing to say about it if its listed in your insurance policy.
Not sure you'd have a case if the thief removed the device. The bike has already been stolen at that point. But you may have something to say if you can't track the bike cause the website doesn't work. Muffles, do you have the contract for the tracking system?
Not sure you'd have a case if the thief removed the device. The bike has already been stolen at that point. But you may have something to say if you can't track the bike cause the website doesn't work. Muffles, do you have the contract for the tracking system?
If the site was not down or they are not contactable then it gives time for theifs to check over the bike for iregularities and remove anything that tracks the bike, ie contributing to not recovering the bike. At least they should be liable for all the install costs and ongoing charges that were paid in respect to the unit.
$hit............ not the gixer.
hope you get it back soon,
Absolutely gutted for you! :(
Spanner Man
05-09-07, 08:11 AM
Sorry to hear that Muffles. Let's hope you find it intact, & the Scuzzballs get what they deserve!
Cheers.
muffles
05-09-07, 08:13 AM
Cheers guys. I've got through to the company now, will keep you updated...
Jester666
05-09-07, 08:18 AM
Sorry to hear this. Its only a week since mine was nicked as well!
HANG 'EM ALL!! :twisted:
Devil Biccy
05-09-07, 08:27 AM
totally gutted for you, I'm sure that the investment in the tracker will pay off, keep fingers crossed for you and like jester666 said "hang em all"
muffles
05-09-07, 08:27 AM
An update: The tracker company have received a text back from the bike, it is in north London somewhere, they are doing a few more texts to see if it's moving, and hopefully a GPS locate will be successful (it won't be if they stuck it inside something, which is almost guaranteed :( ).
So if anyone sees anything in north London let me know...
plowsie
05-09-07, 08:28 AM
grrrr!
Let us know about the tracker!
Why are London thieves nicking svs?
Can't they nick summat else, like a BMW?
I think he has a 2007 Gixer mate :eek:
Sorry to hear this mate
My plan of action would be to torture them ;)
muffles
05-09-07, 08:43 AM
Yeah sorry I missed Kinvig saying that! It's the gixer yeah...
SoulKiss
05-09-07, 08:47 AM
Cheers guys. I've got through to the company now, will keep you updated...
Up to this point there was me thinking good scam !!!
1) Sign up a load of people to fit a tracker.
2) Take the server down and then go nick their bikes, well you DO know where they are :)
3) Bring server back up, but after trackers removed
4) ???????
5) Profit !!!!!
Mind you that may just be my paranoid suspicious mind at work, :P
Hope they find it and you get it back, its a very nice bike
muffles
05-09-07, 08:50 AM
Hehe yeah my mate was joking that it was an inside job...or was he :eek:
Nah I'm crossing my fingers this works out, but it's looking a bit iffy the longer they take!
Yeah sorry I missed Kinvig saying that! It's the gixer yeah...
phew!!!!!!! That's a relief ;o)
No, seriously. Hope you get it back in the condition you left it in!
Alpinestarhero
05-09-07, 09:06 AM
Crap!
Dosnt the suszuki ignition now have a disabler function as part of the ignition or soemthing? I remember my dad saying something about his ignition on his GSXR750
Matt
That sucks. Hope you get it back in good nick.
muffles
05-09-07, 09:15 AM
Crap!
Dosnt the suszuki ignition now have a disabler function as part of the ignition or soemthing? I remember my dad saying something about his ignition on his GSXR750
Matt
Yeah the keys are coded/chipped or whatever to the ignition barrel, however as they don't have the keys anyway not sure it matters?!
b@stards hope you get it back soon keep us posted i had my last bike nicked back in may
Yeah the keys are coded/chipped or whatever to the ignition barrel, however as they don't have the keys anyway not sure it matters?!
They are probably more likely to be coded to the ECU and the bit on the barel is a RF pickup.
So it was a van job, or a ECU with matching key which they swapped around and road off.
muffles
05-09-07, 09:58 AM
They are probably more likely to be coded to the ECU and the bit on the barel is a RF pickup.
So it was a van job, or a ECU with matching key which they swapped around and road off.
Definitely van, it couldn't be ridden off (chained - almax - to concrete block plus disclock), and I can't see any bits of disclock or chain anywhere!
muffles
05-09-07, 09:59 AM
And it was alarmed so not sure if that would have allowed someone with a valid key to ride off...
Definitely van, it couldn't be ridden off (chained - almax - to concrete block plus disclock), and I can't see any bits of disclock or chain anywhere!
They got though a almax chain, seems like proper bods with the right tools. not easy to brake those chains.
Alpinestarhero
05-09-07, 10:00 AM
Definitely van, it couldn't be ridden off (chained - almax - to concrete block plus disclock), and I can't see any bits of disclock or chain anywhere!
Jesus, they must have some equipment then :o what about the concrete block? Is that left behind?
Matt
gettin2dizzy
05-09-07, 10:02 AM
that's ****! Sounds like real pros, can you find out their location? Could be worth an SV visit!
grh1904
05-09-07, 10:04 AM
Hey you know what really takes the p*ss - if the police recover it they charge me! And I have to sign up to the scheme (which I did) - it's £105 + VAT plus £12 a day storage if they find it! And here was me thinking it was their job...
Yes, but this is claimable back from insurance.
muffles
05-09-07, 10:11 AM
Yes, but this is claimable back from insurance.
If I got it back, that'd be the only thing I'd be claiming on the insurance. a) I'd have to exceed my excess presumably, and b) if that's the only thing I'm claiming for I'd be stupid to lose my NCB over that!
plowsie
05-09-07, 10:11 AM
Yes, but this is claimable back from insurance.
Or "Claim" it back off the people who nicked ya bike ;)
Definitely van, it couldn't be ridden off (chained - almax - to concrete block plus disclock), and I can't see any bits of disclock or chain anywhere!
I read that to mean you chained it to a breeze block or similar.
You're supposed to chain it to an immovable object. So the flaw in all your security was to omit a proper ground anchor.
Why go to all that trouble/expense & leave a weak link?
injury_ian
05-09-07, 10:14 AM
Muffles, I canne believe it, Hope you get her back.
Fizzy Fish
05-09-07, 10:20 AM
gutted for you muffles :(
very good to hear that you've got a tracker though - in every case I know where a bike was stolen with one fitted, the owner has got it back again. Fingers crossed for you on this one!
Fizzy Fish
05-09-07, 10:22 AM
I read that to mean you chained it to a breeze block or similar.
You're supposed to chain it to an immovable object. So the flaw in all your security was to omit a proper ground anchor.
Why go to all that trouble/expense & leave a weak link?
Stu - give the guy a break!
muffles
05-09-07, 10:28 AM
I had a weak link in that it was outside, that's a much weaker link IMO. It wasn't a breeze block, it was a hand made concrete block weighing about 50kg. It's not easy to lift, you'd need a separate person just for that.
I can't go digging holes and concreting in ground anchors in public car parks - though that's most likely what I will do next time.
Alpinestarhero
05-09-07, 10:30 AM
I had a weak link in that it was outside, that's a much weaker link IMO. It wasn't a breeze block, it was a hand made concrete block weighing about 50kg. It's not easy to lift, you'd need a separate person just for that.
I can't go digging holes and concreting in ground anchors in public car parks - though that's most likely what I will do next time.
I use the same form of security for my bike when I had it parked outside at my flat at university. Its a good compromise
But, if anyone really wants to steal something, they will, even if it takes them and 10 other people
Matt
gettin2dizzy
05-09-07, 10:37 AM
I'd like to see how they plan on getting the almax off!
I'd buy a tracker if it wasn't for the obscene running costs of them.
It'd be great to hear of the tracker not only getting your bike back but being able to prosecute those romanians...erm.. theives.
I'd like to see how they plan on getting the almax off!
I
Angle Grinder :mad:
Hope it turns up ok.....
Warthog
05-09-07, 10:51 AM
That is bad news, I can't belevie how many theives there are around nowadays! Lets hope you hear more news from the tracker company. If the signal goes dead I would think you have a good case in claiming against them if their website was down.
muffles
05-09-07, 11:02 AM
I'll certainly be saying something. Additionally the tracker was meant to alert me when it was actually moved - due to the fact the web site was down, and their messaging system didn't work, I had to find it for myself! I think they have a duty to supply me with a replacement bike IMO.
I'll certainly be saying something. Additionally the tracker was meant to alert me when it was actually moved - due to the fact the web site was down, and their messaging system didn't work, I had to find it for myself! I think they have a duty to supply me with a replacement bike IMO.
sounds like the tracker company screwed up big time
you could argue that its down to the tracker not working properly your bike got nicked
petevtwin650
05-09-07, 11:09 AM
I'll certainly be saying something. Additionally the tracker was meant to alert me when it was actually moved - due to the fact the web site was down, and their messaging system didn't work, I had to find it for myself! I think they have a duty to supply me with a replacement bike IMO.
Certainly I'd be looking for a full refund on the cost and charges of the Tracker, or should that be Crapper?:smt072
i think you may have a civil case on that tracker situation
Muffles in regards to the Police recovery costs - do you have vehicle recovery yourself? The police dont charge for the recovery - its the recovery company which they use that do. If you do manage to get to the bike before the police recover it themselves, then I cant see you having any problems in recovering the bike yourself...
Muffles, gutted for you mate......:smt088 had you got that Akrapovic can fitted yet or had you cancelled the order cos it took too long?
I really hope you get it back in one piece mate, if not then I would definitely think you have a case against the tracker company - if their alert system had worked properly you would have found out as they were stealing it as I understand it?
Cheers,
Matt
muffles
05-09-07, 11:11 AM
i think you may have a civil case on that tracker situation
Muffles in regards to the Police recovery costs - do you have vehicle recovery yourself? The police dont charge for the recovery - its the recovery company which they use that do. If you do manage to get to the bike before the police recover it themselves, then I cant see you having any problems in recovering the bike yourself...
I might have recovery which came with my bike actually. But yeah I only pay if the police find it during their normal investigations.
How long does it take for the tracker company to come back with a more precise location? Do they alert the police to this or not?
Warthog
05-09-07, 11:21 AM
I would have thought it would be a quick thing to ping it and get the GPS coordinates off it. Get them to pull their finger out!
Well Oiled
05-09-07, 11:28 AM
Bad luck mate - hope you find it quickly and the scumbags are brought to justice.
Theiving gits. Have the tracking company located it yet?
muffles
05-09-07, 11:41 AM
Muffles, gutted for you mate......:smt088 had you got that Akrapovic can fitted yet or had you cancelled the order cos it took too long?
I really hope you get it back in one piece mate, if not then I would definitely think you have a case against the tracker company - if their alert system had worked properly you would have found out as they were stealing it as I understand it?
Cheers,
Matt
It's still on back order! Shows how long they are taking really. Why is every company incompetent these days?
muffles
05-09-07, 11:42 AM
In terms of what the company are doing - well because they interface to other services (the web interface, etc) they are having to call them apparently. They are all incompetent however - yes, it is a case of just ping it. But they're too damn stupid to do that! I would not recommend this tracker at all.
Gutted for you. Theiving Bast£$ds. One thing that does worry me is that they have tracked it and come back to you to say its somewhere in North London!. have they actually looked at a map to realise how big london is ?
I hope the GPS track goes better.
muffles
05-09-07, 11:47 AM
I really can't be bothered to go into the details right now but the track is more accurate than that, I just don't know the details. Such a mess...and apparently the tracker guy is on the phone to the police now?!
i think you may have a civil case on that tracker situation
Muffles in regards to the Police recovery costs - do you have vehicle recovery yourself? The police dont charge for the recovery - its the recovery company which they use that do. If you do manage to get to the bike before the police recover it themselves, then I cant see you having any problems in recovering the bike yourself...
It's reported that the Police will then not investigate the theft if you recover it yourself.
muffles
05-09-07, 12:31 PM
To be fair, if I find it myself, I can do my own investigation :)
In terms of news, well not much really apart from saying it hasn't moved, which is good, but I need to confirm that. They are talking to the police, who are talking to Vodafone, because Vodafone can give a more accurate location via GSM but won't unless the police ask. So I'm trying to get the post code of the location of it they DO have, so I can at least go look around the streets myself!
Stu - give the guy a break!
Yes, sorry, I guess you'd done as best you could given no private space for a ground anchor. Lamp post next time?
SoulKiss
05-09-07, 12:34 PM
To be fair, if I find it myself, I can do my own investigation :)
In terms of news, well not much really apart from saying it hasn't moved, which is good, but I need to confirm that. They are talking to the police, who are talking to Vodafone, because Vodafone can give a more accurate location via GSM but won't unless the police ask. So I'm trying to get the post code of the location of it they DO have, so I can at least go look around the streets myself!
Dont do it alone mate, bike isn't worth you ending up in hospital or worse.
Get some friends together first.
David
Muffles -No way, I really feel for you mate.........Personally I hope you catch the B****RDS yourself and give them some proper justice. The old bill would only give them a caution, if the Police programmes on TV are anything to go by.......
Good luck mate, take your key and something particularly hard and heavy with you.
P.S> I'm sure there would be plemnty of ORG'ers who would be happy to accompany you.
muffles
05-09-07, 12:38 PM
It's OK I wasn't planning on confronting them myself, I just want to look for the bike. If I did happen to spot it I would call the cops & do it that way. I would still know their address. :smt023
riktherider
05-09-07, 12:39 PM
Thats one thing i dont particulary want to happen to me! unlucky. hope you find it.
IMO i wouldnt take you key with you. i would take a couple of mates, and a couple of locks, and lock it infront of a cctv camera in public, then informt he police you ahve found it. if you take your key with you, there is the possibility they could "do you over", nick the key and off with the bike
Sorry to hear about this muffles...
I cant believe how slow these guys are working...I can only imagine how frustrating it must be.
Samnooshka
05-09-07, 01:45 PM
Sorry to hear this... its something we all dread facing. Good luck with the recovery.. keep us posted :).
kwak zzr
05-09-07, 02:08 PM
oh sorry to hear this muffles:( this is some bad sh#t:(
sorry to hear your news muffles, must be gutting, really hope you get it back but dont put yourself in danger going looking alone. Ive got me fingers crossed for you.
trickywoos
05-09-07, 02:29 PM
any update in the past couple of hours Muffles?
All seems to have gone quiet. Hopefully he is out picking his bike up after its been found.
Biker Biggles
05-09-07, 03:24 PM
Blimey.Bad news.
This tracker thing is a bit of a scam it seems.The company sells transponders on the understanding that it can tell instantly when the thing moves,but can't tell where it moves to when stolen?At least not without getting Vodaphone to ask a grown up?They should have the resourse to see instantly where a stolen vehicle is I would have thought.
going looking alone.
Did that once... police rang me up to tell me where my bike was so I went and got it..... only occured to me while I was knocking some cheap cr*ppy padlock off the brake disc that it might have been wise to bring someone else along - :smt105 although the guy whose house it was outside of (and who'd reported it in the first place) was in.....
Fingers crossed for the Gixxer.......
gettin2dizzy
05-09-07, 03:56 PM
If this results in a prosecution I may get a tracker myself. Recovering a stolen bike is one thing, getting a thief off the streets is ace!
Ratty46
05-09-07, 05:07 PM
oh no....muffles, sorry to hear about your bike dude, hopefully as has been said hes out picking it up right now!
whereabouts in london was it taken? it sounds like they were pro thieves mate,might be working an area.
DoubleD
05-09-07, 07:06 PM
oh no, hope it all gets sorted and the tracker guys pull a finger out and get your bike back all ok.
Sorry to hear - glad you have a chance to catch the theives though! good luck with it and will watch with interest the outcome. Not a great start advert for the tracker company...
-Ralph-
05-09-07, 08:18 PM
B@st@rds. Hope you've got it back by the time you read this and without any damage.
Wideboy
05-09-07, 08:29 PM
bad news, hanging would be to good for them
Any news on the gixxer yet muffles?
Alpinestarhero
06-09-07, 09:43 AM
Any news on the gixxer yet muffles?
+1, i was about to ask too!
Matt
MiniMatt
06-09-07, 10:42 AM
Really hope all goes well on this one. Does seem like things moved way too slow initially, my fear is that the tracker ain't moving because they've already removed it and dropped it in the nearest rubbish bin :( Fingers crossed anyway.
Little bit disappointed in the response you seem to have gotten - it's pretty apparent from the work they did to nick it this is not your average scrote wanting a quick hoon around but an organised gang who probably have a whole lot more stolen bikes stashed away being broken. Would have hoped the tracking company and the feds would have jumped at the chance to break an organised "crime syndicate".
muffles
06-09-07, 11:33 AM
Sorry for the delayed update! No luck as yet, but we had some progress. You'll all probably find this next bit really frustrating, I know I do!
Basically we got a GPS locate from the bike at around 4pm yesterday this pointed us to http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=51.370446,+-0.103775&ie=UTF8&ll=51.370446,-0.103775&spn=0.001162,0.002494&t=k&z=19&om=1
I went down with a mate, and met the tracker people there, but they couldn't pinpoint anything via their RFID hand held trackers. The police were also there but unfortunately as we couldn't pinpoint exactly where it was, we couldn't get them to open anything :(
Here are the places we think it might be in (you can get to this area from the road, there is an underpass under the houses):
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=51.370287,+-0.103869&ie=UTF8&ll=51.370287,-0.103869&spn=0.001162,0.002494&t=k&z=19&iwloc=addr&om=1 (this is a steel shed - most suspect in terms of blocking RF!)
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=51.370228,+-0.103911&ie=UTF8&ll=51.370228,-0.103911&spn=0.001162,0.002494&t=k&z=19&iwloc=addr&om=1
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=51.370195,+-0.103791&ie=UTF8&ll=51.370195,-0.103791&spn=0.001162,0.002494&t=k&z=19&iwloc=addr&om=1
So frustrating, we know the area but not exactly where! And it's probably moved now :(
ukgooner
06-09-07, 11:37 AM
I am amazed that that is not specific enough for them to act!
The police were also there but unfortunately as we couldn't pinpoint exactly where it was, we couldn't get them to open anything :(
Now I am actually very "pro police" (Strange I know), but this seriously makes me doubt the powers they have. How can they ignore this situation. I would be fuming about this!! :mad::mad::mad:
Hope you get some better news soon.
Korben
petevtwin650
06-09-07, 11:52 AM
Sounds like the tracker and company are a bit rubbish. Can't imagine how frustrated you must be feeling.:smt013
Shame you didn't have a remote starter. Just press the Plip, listen for the exhaust, and rush in and exact some justice:smt066
Have you tried tracking it today to see if it moved?
ivantate
06-09-07, 12:06 PM
I hope this works out. Sounds like a nightmare especially after getting the tracker fitted.
the_lone_wolf
06-09-07, 12:07 PM
ridiculous!!! you would have thought, given a choice of 4 possible locations, the police might at least make some enquiries around the houses. say half the people are in, that's down to 2 locations if they open up the garages/sheds to show you it's not there etc
perhaps you should go "investigate" with some mates and a crowbar later on:rolleyes:
How frustrating mate! I thought they said North London...not Croydon????
Hope it all works out for you.
J
muffles
06-09-07, 12:15 PM
The north London thing was incorrect, it was some dutch guy saying it! The tracker people are trying to track it today, they have not had any GPS locations on it today, and currently I am waiting for them to get back to me about some "force text" they sent it, which it should be forced to reply to (so we know if it's alive). Also they are working on doing GSM locations if they do get any texts from it.
Basically still shafted :(
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