View Full Version : Do I use a disc lock in this instance?
I have put a cheapo disc lock on my new bike in my garage (1 mile from my house) as an added deterrent. I have also however, despite only being able to ride it a few times, managed to forget the key and try backing it out of the garage with said lock attached damaging the lock! (Told you it was a cheapo!).
Is it worth putting it on in a garage out of site or is it a case of if they want it they'll get it and a disc lock wont stop them?
It also has a datatool S4 alarm.
Sideshow#36
07-09-07, 04:44 AM
When you put the disc lock on get a bit of string and loop it from the disc lock up to the clutch lever. So when you pull the clutch in you wont forget to take it off. Always worked for me anyway. :cool:
my bike is alarmed, & garaged, but still
i have a disc lock, 3 D-locks & 4 chains............. i dont always use all of them but i always use somthing, as you said every little helps
I have a ground anchor in my garage, so I don't use my (cheap deterant only) disk lock there. If I were unable to tie it down there I would us it.
I take it your garage is a lock up on block, so a van parked right up to the open door may not look suspicious. Your disk lock (even a expensive one) wont stop them picking the bike up and pushing it in the van, and neither will your alarm. Anyone who makes a challenge will be told "Yea, it's bust, we're taking it to the dealer to get it fixed".
Your best defence is that is is hidden from view.
my bike is alarmed, & garaged, but still
i have a disc lock, 3 D-locks & 4 chains............. i dont always use all of them but i always use somthing, as you said every little helps
Too true - that extra weight means the bike's heavier to lift ino a van.
Too true - that extra weight means the bike's heavier to lift ino a van.
& its chained the the wall & floor..........:)
& its chained the the wall & floor..........:)
you ruined my funny.......(admittdly I plaigarised it from another thread I read last year....but still!!)
;o)
ThEGr33k
07-09-07, 07:58 AM
Man that sucks that that people can get away with stealing in the middle of the day like that! :smt013 If you are in the middle of a block of garage get a ground anchor deffo mate!
fizzwheel
07-09-07, 08:17 AM
As said Ground Anchor and Dirty big chain.
IMHO nothing will stop a determined theif, but you want to make their lives as difficult as possible.
gettin2dizzy
07-09-07, 08:56 AM
It might be the disc lock that provides the 'knock' when they wheel it that sets the alarm off
hth
KnightRider
07-09-07, 11:03 AM
Personally, I would put as much security on the bike as you can afford even though it is in a garage. IMHO the only benefit you get from a garage is that strangers cant see your bike when it is locked away. Garage doors are extremely easy to get open without a key making them easy targets for anyone that sees you getting it out/putting it in or anyone that visits your house eg the gas man etc.
I live in a relatively safe area and when I put my bike in the garage I wrap 1 almax IV chain around the body of the bike and then put a second almax IV chain through that, the back wheel and a ground anchor. I also turn my motion sensative 2-way alarm on so that if anyone opens the garage I get woken up.
I may sound paranoid, but the way I see it is that when the theives come looking for a bike to nick they are more likely to take my neighbours bike that has no security than mine that has loads!
Alpinestarhero
07-09-07, 11:27 AM
Spend 50 quid, get an Xena alarmed disc lock. That way, when you move the bike, the alarm will go off if you forget to remove the lock.
Mind you, with an alarm already fitted, you probably dont need it...
Matt
DoubleD
07-09-07, 11:58 AM
I have alarm, disk lock and dirty big chain in the locked shed which has a alarm and my car parked in front of the gate so you can't get the bike out unless you nick the car as well. Which is alarmed as well.
That said, if they want it bad enough they will get it.
Steve_God
07-09-07, 12:31 PM
I went for "No-I wouldn't bother in the garage"
Personally, if my garage door is opened, you can hear it very loud as it's underneath where I sleep - and with the searing lock on, you can't actually get it out of the garage. So for me it's very pointless!
tomjones2
07-09-07, 12:41 PM
Have to say I woudn't bother in the garage, I use my bike everyday and have given up using a disclock full stop, I find it a hasstle putting it on several times a day and apparently they are very easy to get off with bolt croppers anyway.
If you want to secure you bike better I would work on the garage security, ground anchor, bars on the windows (if any) and get one of those things to stop the door being opened by force. Aprarenlty standard garage door lock are very flimsy, they certainly look it.
Alternativly get a big dog
northwind
07-09-07, 04:10 PM
I usually leave my keys in the ignition in the garage... Since most security is so easy to bypass, if they're in my garage they're going to have it anyway in most cases. A ground anchor and worthwhile chain could make the difference, but that's a fair chunk of expense and a load of day to day hassle, so I'd rather just take the risk of using the garage as my only security. This is why I have insurance.
But don't tell them that ;)
The bike is in a council garage about a mile or so from where I live in a block but out of site. I couldn't really use a ground anchor in there as I wouldn't be allowed. The alarm would go off if a rat farted in it's general direction so a disc lock or alarm wouldn't help if that said refrigerated van backed up to it. Oh I'm getting a bit worried now! I always park my van blocking the garage when I get the bike out in case anyone comes round the corner. So far in 4 years I don't think one person has seen that I have a bike in there. I considered swapping it for a garage nearer me but when I went to look there were flats facing it. No way Jose.
Gonna look atr the poll now.....
KnightRider
07-09-07, 04:55 PM
I couldn't really use a ground anchor in there as I wouldn't be allowed.
That didn't stop me. When I leave I plan on removing the anchor (i have rigged it so that only I can get it out) and concreting the hole that is left. Nobody will ever know that it was there! Besides, most people wont mind that you have put a ground anchor in even if you leave it there. They are extremely useful and dont really cause any annoyance to anyone.
That didn't stop me. When I leave I plan on removing the anchor (i have rigged it so that only I can get it out) and concreting the hole that is left. Nobody will ever know that it was there! Besides, most people wont mind that you have put a ground anchor in even if you leave it there. They are extremely useful and dont really cause any annoyance to anyone.
Hmmn I might just do that but I'm thinking of moving in about 7 months. I couldn't have the anchor near the walls or near the back of the garage as I'm a bit of an arachnophobe and throw the bike in there and run. My SV has suffered cos I couldn't bare to go in there. I have to bribe people to help me shift stuff in there! Terrible I know. I'm getting better though.
northwind
07-09-07, 05:12 PM
If you want an anchor but you're not allowed a permanent one, go to b&q and buy a 99p plastic bucket and a sack of cement. Find yourself a suitable loop- a bike u-lock would be perfect, you need to be careful because any steel that you can bend without hardware will be too easy to crop. Fill bucket with cement and whatever stones you can find, set loop into cement, instant anchor. Not totally immovable of course but it'll make it a lot harder to shift. You could equally use a bit of plastic or cardboard tube to create a hole through your anchor, that'd actually be better as it means there's no handle to lift it by. If you want more security, make 2.
You could also do what my mate Bren did with his scooter... He "aquired" one of those big metal plates that they use to cover holes in the road- not from the road though! Then drilled 2 holes in it for the chain, and plonked it down over a drain- it sat flat with the chain passed through it. You couldn't lift the bike as you'd have to stand on the plate to do it, so if you wanted it you had to break the chain, break the bike, or lift the bike plus the huge steel plate- and it wasn't light. Clever stuff. You could do the same with it propped on bricks if a hole in the ground didn't present itself.
Coincidetally, he wrote that scooter off when he rode into an uncovered manhole one night and snapped it in half. The poetry of that was completely lost on him.
This message is too long to mention in detail that 99% of All Bike Chains Are S***. But they are. Don't be fooled into thinking you're protected. That's just in general, not for the original post, but it bears mentioning.
Made me laugh though Northwind! I've heard of that one before. But where do I get one and how do I move it?! Think I'll do the bucket thing but maybe with something bigger. Two 25kg bakgs of cement will do. That way, when I leave the garage I can shift the concrete next to the stripped out car filled with tyres and not have to worry about it! He he he.
:)
muffles
09-09-07, 08:42 AM
Do you have a 675 now? I think you mentioned that on my stolen bike thread!
I would be wary about doing the concrete block thing - that's what I did and they just took that too. It's got to be truly immovable or they will come along with enough people to actually take everything it's chained to! I would seriously just install a ground anchor in the floor, no-one will care, or if they do you can concrete it over when you leave.
Someone also mentioned something about the steering lock meaning they couldn't remove it from the garage? Mine wasn't in a garage, but in terms of moving it, they had to lift the front wheel, the rear wheel, and the concrete block - front wheel had steering lock/disc lock, rear wheel had almax chain to concrete block. So again not going to be an issue I suspect.
Given you've got a ss600 I'd 100% definitely get it bolted to the floor. And if possible some way of monitoring the sounds in your garage - I know baby monitors are usually suggested but not sure they work over that long distance.
I thought I had mine covered enough - there was the security as above, plus alarm, plus tracker, plus always covered when parked at home, and it was behind my car - not the easiest to get out. I was wrong though, I don't want anyone else to have to find that out the hard way :(
muffles
09-09-07, 08:44 AM
p.s. I'm not sure how much 2 x 25kg bags of cement makes, it would be quite a lot - like 400kg? Assuming you really meant 2 25kg bags of cement, and you weren't referring to that as the final weight, you might be OK - I don't think anyone could move 400kg in one block into a van. But my block weighed 50kg and they just picked it up and off they went!
ASM-Forever
09-09-07, 09:11 AM
So muffles was your bike parked in the street?
Personally i would never park a new sports bike in the street and when i say that i mean around here, where there is no through traffic and its quite isolated/rural.
Well thats actually a lie ,i parked it in the street once and was paranoid throughout the night....constantly looking out the window. Never again :)
muffles
09-09-07, 09:29 AM
Nope, it was parked off road - a private car park for the estate I live in. Basically this is where my car is http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=51.429451,+-0.153283&ie=UTF8&ll=51.429503,-0.153283&spn=0.000764,0.001824&t=k&z=19&iwloc=addr&om=1 - in fact, that's my old car :D
The bike was parked behind that, covered up and out of view as much as it could be. Only people who live in the estate would need to go in or near that car park...so someone must have at some point seen me go into the estate (I always checked people didn't follow me but they must have just realised - or perhaps they were on foot, or something). So if I had a garage, I think they would have just come and bent the door up, and did exactly what they did last Wednesday :(
tomjones2
09-09-07, 05:55 PM
I thought I had mine covered enough - there was the security as above, plus alarm, plus tracker, plus always covered when parked at home, and it was behind my car - not the easiest to get out. I was wrong though, I don't want anyone else to have to find that out the hard way :(
Parking bikes behind car/vans can actually end up causing more agro, I know someone who had the whole side cut of thier van because they had parked it infront of a garage that had been broken into before, they broke in via the back doors and took an angle grinder to the side, I would have though it was easier to move the van but hey.
Also have seen more than one case in the press where they have dragged bikes across the top of cars to get them out of a garage. I suppose it depends on how much you car is worth whether you want to use it to add to your security
muffles
09-09-07, 06:09 PM
Car wasn't worth much, but they didn't damage it! In any case, it won't come to that again, I hope - using a bike safe inside a garage should mean that even if they get in, they can't get to the bike without some serious equipment.
I only use my security, stuff chain, disc lock, u lock etc in my garage. I know a pro will dispose of them easily but I hope they just make enough noise removing them to get my dog barking. Take my chain if going into town to fix it to something. Yes I have forgot disc lock once at devils bridge on my old zxr750! Big bang and judder but managed to stay upright and tried to act cool about it:-dd Disc was wrecked!
I reckon 2X25kg bags of cement might make between 75 and 100kg of concrete. I'll ask a builder mate. If I got the shape right I could make it very hard to move. But then I'd have to get an almax chain and figure out how to fix it round my bike! Can't really afford the chain though.
Yeah I think I'll do that. Don't think any amount of noise would stop people where my garage is though as it could be anyone working in any one of loads of gardens or garages. Please do not see attached google map! He he. So the only thing to do would make it very very hard for them to nick at all. I've actually got a ground anchor that I bought years ago but never used. If I done the concrete thing I'd do it so it's harder for them to get the bike than if I used the ground anchor but at least I could shift it easier when I'm done with the garage if you know what I mean.
:)
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