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Ok so no ones started a thread. Can I have your quarter final and final predictions please:
ABs Vs Ireland
SA Vs Aust
Final will be ABs Vs Aust - with ABs to win.
OK no suprises from me then...
You really think the aussies have a team to beat the boks?
Oh sorry Julian - but you can call it my only real upset :)
dunno.......but celtic crusaders are champions of nl2 (rugby league) so its nl1 next year then super league
wooooo-hoooo
Pedrosa
10-09-07, 10:37 AM
The heart wants Ireland to win this, however there is no getting away from The Aussies, New Zealand, South Africa and France. England could make it to the semi's but I do not think they have a team that compares with the title winning side.
If you want to see brutal tackling try and catch the Tonga Vs. Samoa game(16th September). Not for the feint hearted I can tell you with big hits that you will feel from your sofa!:confused:
the_runt69
10-09-07, 10:41 AM
If Ireland dont improve on yesterday I see it NZ v Angentina who I think are going to suprise some people and Australia V SA
with a SA V NZ fina; with the Boks coming out on top, NZ have bottlked too many times in the last few years
Filipe M.
10-09-07, 10:41 AM
What, not even a mention for the Portuguese team? :?
Pedrosa
10-09-07, 10:45 AM
As in any major tournament, impressing in the group stages is not what it is all about. No good peaking in your efforts to go through to the knock out phase. A good team will build confidance match by match.
Yes Filipe. Portugal were fantastic for a "new" country to this sport. Well done to them.;)
gonna put a couple of bob on france winning it
get best odds for them round about now. cant see them playing as badly as they did friday. altho saying that would be taking away from an excellent pumas performance...
If you want to see brutal tackling try and catch the Tonga Vs. Samoa game(16th September). Not for the feint hearted I can tell you with big hits that you will feel from your sofa!:confused:
That one should be a giggle! Can't wait! :D
Mmmmmmmm, rugby players. ;)
the_runt69
10-09-07, 06:16 PM
Mmmmmmmm, rugby players. ;)
Down K
Looks like we're gonna be without Vickery of the SA game
colinsv25
10-09-07, 06:23 PM
id like to think england will go far,i think the final will the aussies and the boks think the all blacks will bottle it
gonna put a couple of bob on france winning it
get best odds for them round about now. cant see them playing as badly as they did friday. altho saying that would be taking away from an excellent pumas performance...
got them at 11's. each way punt. easy come eh....
Mmmmmmmm, rugby players. ;)
+1 zillion bajillion kazillion trillion billion...
If you want to see brutal tackling try and catch the Tonga Vs. Samoa game(16th September). Not for the feint hearted I can tell you with big hits that you will feel from your sofa!:confused:
Good call!
Especially after the performance of the Samoans against SA yesterday...
I didn't think anyone could play dirtier than SA did against England last year:?
Oi...............we live in Rugby, and it's not that much of a toilet!
:D:D:D:D:D
Scotland woooohoooo (are they in it?)
the_runt69
10-09-07, 10:26 PM
Scotland woooohoooo (are they in it?)
Yep they started with a win yesterday
woohoo Scotland woohoo lol
pencil shavings
11-09-07, 10:01 AM
SA........
As long as the key boys stay fit, Burger, Matfield, Habana, Smit then I see no reason why they cant win.
Even a few injuries to those key boys will meen they wont win, there is not the super quality depth to the squad that is needed.
And I just saw this :(:
http://www.skysports.com/rugbyunion/World_Cup/Story/0,21043,13133_2721023,00.html
Dont think that it will stand up though, IMHO he went for the ball and wasnt looking at the man, unlike a certain England man.......... ;)
Good call!
Especially after the performance of the Samoans against SA yesterday...
I didn't think anyone could play dirtier than SA did against England last year:?
I didnt see the game - but looks like they were giving out more than they were taking :p
I didnt see the game - but looks like they were giving out more than they were taking :p
I wouldnt say say that TBH. The second half was pretty clean from the SA side and I never ever liked that blonde dutchman schalk burger anyway. Yes he is good but he is also a very dirty player at times.
pencil shavings
11-09-07, 11:31 AM
I never ever liked that blonde dutchman schalk burger anyway. Yes he is good but he is also a very dirty player at times.
he can be dirty but hes still my fave player. He has the same reckless abandon that Wilko has except hes a massive forward!
And hes only 23/24!:pirat:
Pedrosa
14-09-07, 10:30 PM
Well deary me, what a dissapointment? Tonight I went to a bar to watch a sponge attempt to beat down a wall.
England had a one off team 4 years ago let's remember that. The rebuilding process has been a complete disaster since that fantastic success 4 years ago.
England's game is all about forward domination and as they have not rebuilt properly since 2003 they were always going to struggle when the big boys came to call. A Head Coach promoting a game plan that is 10 years out of date will not see such heights reached again people.
But do not despair totally, this is only the qualification stage. Beat Samoa and you go through to the qualifyinbg stages.
However show such lack of ideas and commitment and Samoa will also tear you apart and hurt you big time with their tackling.
The best chance for a northern hemisphere side progressing with pride is IRELAND. The euphoria and home advantage will not be enough for the sweaty arm pitted French.
the_runt69
14-09-07, 10:40 PM
Apart from K and ping who wearnt watching for the game that was a dismal performance from our boys, lack of vision and no commitment what else can you say. dont think we'e gonna retaion the trophy unless we improve by over 100%
pencil shavings
14-09-07, 10:56 PM
Apart from K and ping who wearnt watching for the game that was a dismal performance from our boys, lack of vision and no commitment what else can you say. dont think we'e gonna retaion the trophy unless we improve by over 100%
except for Jason Robinson who looked like the only man in a white shirt trying to do somthing different, such a pitty he had to pick up an injury though.
England never stood a chance, they are lucky the score wasnt greater. Samoa will have high hopes for their clash, I think they might even be worth a flutter! Remember a stronger SA team conceded points to, and score less points agianst Samoa, than England, just a few days ago :smt103
Apart from K and ping who wearnt watching for the game that was a dismal performance from our boys, lack of vision and no commitment what else can you say. dont think we'e gonna retaion the trophy unless we improve by over 100%
Erm, excuse me, I was watching for the game - only I couldn't find it...
... neither could the England team it seems. :oops:
Supervox
14-09-07, 11:18 PM
England had a one off team 4 years ago let's remember that.
Not quite a one-off - the team had been developing over a number of years (based around Johnny's boot !!)
The rebuilding process has been a complete disaster since that fantastic success 4 years ago.
That's the basic problem - Andy Robinson didn't do any real re-building. So Brian Ashton has had to do what he can in about a year. He hasn't been helped by injuries - but hey, that's all part of the game !!
The best chance for a northern hemisphere side progressing with pride is IRELAND. The euphoria and home advantage will not be enough for the sweaty arm pitted French.
Whilst I agree with you about the French (I think they'll be lucky to get out of the group stage). I thought the Irish made a right meal of beating Namibia - almost as bad as England's very dodgy win over the USA.
Unless there's some drastic improvements the only way I see a northern hemisphere team progressing beyond the quarter finals is if Ireland manage to win Group D & Wales finish in the runner-up spot in Group C thereby setting up an Ireland v Wales Quarter final !!
From an Englaish point of view I think once this world cup is over probably close to 2/3rds of the current squad need to be told "Thanks - but your time is over" & we should spend the next couple of years developing the Saxons players so they can step up.
This will be difficult because there will always be people screaming that we must win the 6 Nations etc etc.
I say B*LL*CKS - work on building the team & the results for the first 2 years don't matter if you end up with a potential world beating team !!
BTW - I don't believe England struggled this evening - they were comprehensively destroyed !!
BTW - I don't believe England struggled this evening - they were comprehensively destroyed !!
This is the really sad thig - I don't think we were comprehensively destroyed...
... the Boks weren't playing brilliantly, they were just playing 'well'. It could perhaps have been alot worse. :oops:
I did like the nice show of gentlemanly play when Robinson went to ground though. No bundle, it was obvious he was injured, so they played 'over' him.
A well deserved standing ovation from all supporters when he was escorted off the pitch - I hope he'll be back in play before England are out of it, retiring once it's over so in some ways it would be a pity for his career to finish on that note.
Luckypants
14-09-07, 11:56 PM
As a ****ed up Welshman can I say :laughat:Ha! Ha! - I await the inevitable retaliation tomorrow night.......:smt066
As a ****ed up Welshman can I say :laughat:Ha! Ha! -
Why?
Is this one of those, "I only support two teams" things?
shadowangel
15-09-07, 08:38 AM
As a ****ed up Welshman can I say :laughat:Ha! Ha! - I await the inevitable retaliation tomorrow night.......:smt066
As a South African all I can say is Mwuhahah
:)
Luckypants
15-09-07, 08:52 AM
Why?
Is this one of those, "I only support two teams" things?
:smt046 Yep!
Wales are at home today, that's got to be a big advantage (hopefully [-o<)
:smt046 Yep!
small minded mentality, isn't it?
Wales are at home today, that's got to be a big advantage (hopefully [-o<)
Yep! And that would be why the opposition are'nt too happy. Too many teams having home advantage in this world cup...:smt077
Whilst I really do wish Wales all the best (and I think it could be a cracking match) - my concentration is going to be on how many points my beloved All Blacks put on the board against Portugal.
Predictions have been that this will be 'nil point' for the Portugese, but England managed to get the first game in with a zero score - so it shouldn't be too embarassing for them. :roll: :oops:
For hopeful gladiatorial entertainment though I can't wait for Tonga vs Samoa tomorrow. :twisted:
That's the basic problem - Andy Robinson didn't do any real re-building....
I think the other basic problem here is they dont have any solid development championship competition similar to what the Sothern Hemisphere do. The gaps growing because the standard and expectations have grown higher in the south. Sure there is the Guiness Premiership and a few others but nothing that remotely resembles the quality and grade as the Super 14s.
The Heineken Cup would be the one - but it needs defragmenting and slimming down a little maybe with some club/area consolidation to pull more quality players together. I could imagine it would be pretty difacult to to pull something like that off with various cultures and nationalities involved - but the benefits would be massive to have a solid European Championship as the primary league for European players...
Nice to see Robinson playing well - but the Saffas are looking slim fast and furious at the moment. Very strong contenders.
...- but the Saffas are looking slim fast and furious at the moment. Very strong contenders.
Why thank you...
That is until the snot that holds the team together starts melting and it all goes tits up...usually around the quarter-final stage:smt077
Filipe M.
15-09-07, 03:15 PM
Whilst I really do wish Wales all the best (and I think it could be a cracking match) - my concentration is going to be on how many points my beloved All Blacks put on the board against Portugal.
Predictions have been that this will be 'nil point' for the Portugese, but England managed to get the first game in with a zero score - so it shouldn't be too embarassing for them. :roll: :oops:
For hopeful gladiatorial entertainment though I can't wait for Tonga vs Samoa tomorrow. :twisted:
Something tells me we didn't do too bad then! ;)
Wales did okay in the end, and Portuguese did well, too.
Okay, so the All Blacks had six front-row forwards on the pitch at the end, but it was good to watch and they didn't give up.
Unlike England :rolleyes:
Shall we open a book on how many yellow and red cards in the Tonga/Samoa match? :lol:
Both were great games to watch - mainly because both Wales and Portugal always played like they were 'in with a chance' regardless of what the scoreboard said - much respect, espescially to Portugal, (even with the little game of 'footie' that was played down one side of the pitch! ;)).
As a team England simply seem to be playing to lose - if you can call that 'playing'. :roll:
Dont really follow rugby been told england are crap thou thats all i no:(
philipMac
15-09-07, 06:32 PM
What, not even a mention for the Portuguese team? :?
I'll give them a mention then Filipe
New Zealand 108-13 Portugal :D (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_union/6993217.stm)
Filipe M.
15-09-07, 08:23 PM
I'll give them a mention then Filipe
New Zealand 108-13 Portugal :D (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/rugby_union/6993217.stm)
All Blacks 108 - 13 Amateur Team :D
That's an excellent result in my book! :D
the_runt69
15-09-07, 08:33 PM
All Blacks 108 - 13 Amateur Team :D
That's an excellent result in my book! :D
At least they turned up and tried to play, more than the english did yesterday
Filipe M.
15-09-07, 08:34 PM
At least they turned up and tried to play, more than the english did yesterday
More than our own footie squad too... :roll:
the_runt69
15-09-07, 09:08 PM
Well the paddies just scraped through against Georgia so when is one of the home nations gonna put in a decent performance
How well did Georgia play - big boys flattened the paddies - they should've kept that forward pack going at the end and they would've had it. Ireland not taking the bonus point will make for an interesting round here.
Samoa v Tonga should make for an interesting game tomorrow.
Ok so no ones started a thread. Can I have your quarter final and final predictions please:
ABs Vs Ireland
SA Vs Aust
Final will be ABs Vs Aust - with ABs to win.
OK no suprises from me then...
Forgot my prediction
SF1 NZ v Aust
SF2 SA v France/Argies-doesn't really matter
Final: NZ v SA - NZ to win
philipMac
15-09-07, 10:18 PM
Forgot my prediction
Final: NZ v SA - NZ to win
Yup.
We are sucking horribly. All the northern hemisphere teams are.
France have to beat us now...
philipMac
15-09-07, 10:20 PM
All Blacks 108 - 13 Amateur Team :D
That's an excellent result in my book! :D
Yeah, really its not so bad. Seeing rugby played by more than just the usual suspects....
the_runt69
16-09-07, 08:35 PM
Well another turnup for the books, Tonga Beats Somoa and with only 13 men for the last 10 mins
philipMac
16-09-07, 09:38 PM
And france obliterated Georgia.
We're screwed.
Samoa v Tonga should make for an interesting game tomorrow.
Well, it was certainly 'interesting' - nothing really like the JCBvs Juggernaut game that everyone was predicting. In fact it was very mature and thought out with an eye on the bigger world cup picture.
Personally I think it was a pity that the Samoan 'safety' game didn't pay off, but Tonga did deserve the win.
However, in keeping with most of my comments on this subject so far...
... mmmmmmm, Pacific Islanders. ;)
Pedrosa
17-09-07, 10:33 AM
I would not be giving up on the boys from the land of the shamrock....not just yet.
philipMac
17-09-07, 12:56 PM
However, in keeping with most of my comments on this subject so far...
... mmmmmmm, Pacific Islanders. ;)
I feel cheapened and exploited.
the_runt69
18-09-07, 10:01 PM
where's Our Northern breatheren tonight, The Scots seem to be playing the best Rugby out of the home nations, I know it was only Rumania but at least the scots looked like they wanted to play.
Missed that I'm afraid...
Well done to Shane Williams on becoming 2nd Welsh top try scorer! :)
Still a slighty patchy performance though (from what I saw, I was flicking channels between matches)
the_runt69
22-09-07, 05:12 PM
Wilko's back and the english start playing again hmmm we're looking like a one man team yet again, but it was nice to see them compete. Still too many penalties away given in the final third though.
Warthog
22-09-07, 05:30 PM
Definitely more promising, but I have to say I enjoyed the SA - Tonga match more!
philipMac
23-09-07, 05:14 PM
What's the difference between the Irish and English Rugby team?
The English knew they were rubbish at the start of the tournament.
northwind
23-09-07, 05:23 PM
where's Our Northern breatheren tonight, The Scots seem to be playing the best Rugby out of the home nations, I know it was only Rumania but at least the scots looked like they wanted to play.
Yup. Now today, we didn't want to play, which is why we sent all the spares. I guess you're not allowed to concede entirely, or field just one player. Good tactics but you have to feel sorry for anyone who bought a ticket to see the C team play.
the_runt69
23-09-07, 05:25 PM
Was a dissapointment to see them rolled over so easily by the All Blacks, but they will qualify anyway
philipMac
23-09-07, 05:53 PM
The Scots positively absolutely have to beat the Italians.
It is a little annoying that they herded the out the lambs to the slaughter, but they will have a fit team now to play the next match.
It's also a little sad for the players, since the ones that should have been able to say "I fielded for my country against the Blacks" wont be able to. It's not every day you get a chance to play a team like them.
ermmm scotland vs NZ...
the all greys, plus some blue vs all blue, plus a lot of grey.
why no traditional kits?
northwind
23-09-07, 06:04 PM
I wondered that too. Apparently the scottish kit was designed to make them look stronger, a psychological thing, but it was obviously nuts to have both teams in such similiar colours.
I had no idea who was playing who at times... and I think the psycological thing worked great - on me at least! Bl**dy annoying. They shouldve won by more as plenty of missed opportunities and nice flashes of brilliance. But Scotland defence on the line was all heart.
They shouldve won by more.........
Hell yeah...... I felt sorry for the fans at the NZ end in the 2nd half - should have been give a pair of binocs as part of the ticket price :roll:
Can't help thinking that if NZ finish like that against the Aussies or SA then they might come unstuck. Again.
Oh, and btw, I have a ticket to the QF at the Millennium Stadium, which looks like NZ vs either France or the Argies :thumbsup:
Hell yeah...... I felt sorry for the fans at the NZ end in the 2nd half - should have been give a pair of binocs as part of the ticket price :roll:
Can't help thinking that if NZ finish like that against the Aussies or SA then they might come unstuck. Again.
Oh, and btw, I have a ticket to the QF at the Millennium Stadium, which looks like NZ vs either France or the Argies :thumbsup:
Oh you lucky bu**er. Got a spare one?? Have been tempted but they are just to darn pricey now.
Oh, and btw, I have a ticket to the QF at the Millennium Stadium, which looks like NZ vs either France or the Argies :thumbsup:
You don't mind if I kill you for it do you? ;)
the_runt69
24-09-07, 08:47 AM
You lusting after pacific Islanders again K, Or is it msr Chabel
You don't mind if I kill you for it do you? ;)
Mud-wrestling to the death might be fun :smt112
Oh you lucky bu**er. Got a spare one??
Sorry fella :(
If it's Ireland or France playing then there's little chance of picking a ticket up outside the ground either. If it's the Argies then it's probably worth a trip to Cardiff on the off-chance as there's a reasonable chance of a few tickets going spare in the pubs close to the gound :thumbsup:
Oh, and no........ you're too big to mud-wrestle :lol:
You lusting after pacific Islanders again K, Or is it msr Chabel
Hey, I've been an All Blacks supporter since I was a little kid and my Dad first explained the game to me (cos he kept turning the TV over from my cartoons to 'just see the results' - which always seems to take 20 mins for nhim to read from the top of the screen :roll:)... mainly to annoy him by the way. ;)
I've never been to an international and would gladly give someone elses right arm...
... actually, I'd kill to see them play...
... OK, I'd commit genocide for a chance to see them play at home. twisted:
philipMac
25-09-07, 12:56 PM
A friend of mine saw Lomu play when Lomu was young.
He didn't know who this guy was, and was saying at the start, he'd be sort of cantering about the place and he thought, huh, he can move for a big lad.
Then he would turn it up when he ran onto the ball, and it was like someone was just twisting a dial, you could see him accelerate from running fairly quickly over the course of a second to running unbelievably quickly.
And God help anything between him and the try line.
He was saying that a him, and a fair number of people around him, didn't even cheer. They all just stood there with stupid looks on them, and slack jaws thinking bloody hell.
They all just stood there with stupid looks on them, and slack jaws thinking bloody hell.
what rory underwood was thinking too i believe, in the wc semi a couple of tournies back
A friend of mine saw Lomu play when Lomu was young.
He didn't know who this guy was, and was saying at the start, he'd be sort of cantering about the place and he thought, huh, he can move for a big lad.
Then he would turn it up when he ran onto the ball, and it was like someone was just twisting a dial, you could see him accelerate from running fairly quickly over the course of a second to running unbelievably quickly.
And God help anything between him and the try line.
He was saying that a him, and a fair number of people around him, didn't even cheer. They all just stood there with stupid looks on them, and slack jaws thinking bloody hell.
My rugby know someone claim to fame... He went to Wesley College - boys boarding school in NZ. I went to St Stephens - another about 10km away. We used to play against each other and it was one of those big 1st 15 type games with the younger kids on the sidelines doing the haka etc. He was Number 8 back then, 2 years younger but still bigger than me. Yep he used to cream us too - so fast and strong :rolleyes:
the_runt69
25-09-07, 06:22 PM
Eh up Fillipe, the Portugese have scored a try
northwind
25-09-07, 06:55 PM
And God help anything between him and the try line.
Scott Hastings stopped him dead once, when he was in his prime. But I think his ears are still ringing... Only person all championship who managed it, basically by putting his life on the line :) That was the same run of games (world cup?) when he ran over Mike Catt like he wasn't there. What a player. What a side that was as well, just unbelievable talents. That was when I stopped watching football :)
philipMac
25-09-07, 07:09 PM
My rugby know someone claim to fame... He went to Wesley College - boys boarding school in NZ. I went to St Stephens - another about 10km away. We used to play against each other and it was one of those big 1st 15 type games with the younger kids on the sidelines doing the haka etc. He was Number 8 back then, 2 years younger but still bigger than me. Yep he used to cream us too - so fast and strong :rolleyes:
that's some claim to fame alright.
there was a kid in the class above us, west African dude adopted by Irish parent, who was strong. As in, scary. He used to mitch off class a fair bit, and the teachers would just walk over to the weights room, and gather him back. He would just lift weights all the time. He didn't move very fast on the pitch, but when he moved he moved with some determination. Watching him hit people was like bombs going off, just a wrecking ball, he would literally level people. He was only 5 10 or something, more or less the same width. Absolutely terrifying to look at, very similar looking to France's Betson. He was also black, which, when I was young was pretty unusual for Ireland, so that initially rang alarm bells in the opposition. Black guy? Hmm. I've seen black people on TV. Lets be just careful here now..... CLOBBER... Try.
The whole team had one very simple tactic, get the ball to him, every match, same tactic, just get Dom the ball. That year we won everything. Not sure what happened to him afterwards.
philipMac
25-09-07, 07:26 PM
That was when I stopped watching football :)
ha ha.
I pretty much stopped when the Aussies (wc winning team, Campo / Lynagh et al) decided they would train at the end of our road.
Every morning for a week, I was just sitting on the grass, watching the Aussies go through their paces, with their fancy Aussie accents. I was 10 or something, I had seen Campese on TV, and it was always, ah, look, Campo, small looking chap.
He didn't look small in real life.
He looked massive. He just looked small compared to the rest of them, who looked even massiver.
I have never seen anyone kick a ball as effortlessly as Lynagh since either. He kicked in slow motion. Amazing stuff watching them train. The whole set up was the definition of cool for me at the time.
just to bring things down to my level again...
... mmmmmmmmm, Lomu.
:twisted:
chrisdownes
26-09-07, 10:19 AM
The heart says England to win and retain the title, however the brain is telling me that it is going to be a NZ v SA final, and I am tipping SA to win it. NZ will choke as usual, cuz they peak far too early in the competition.
the_runt69
26-09-07, 01:14 PM
just to bring things down to my level again...
... mmmmmmmmm, Lomu.
:twisted:
Down K
Pedrosa
26-09-07, 01:21 PM
Lomo? Spanish you know. Nice on a sandwich.
Lomu? A complete freak of nature being so big yet so awesomely fast. Great to watch.
There was another in Rugby League,(though not altogether as fast and big) Mal Meninga. He used to cover the ground effortlessly and bounce tacklers off like rag dolls. Incredible to watch.
the_runt69
26-09-07, 08:11 PM
Well done the yanks another poor show by Samoa, 22 - 3 up at half time and 25 - 21 at the final whistle, another good showing by one of the minnows who really wanted to play the game.
the_runt69
28-09-07, 07:06 PM
Good luck England for tonight
Good luck England for tonight
wot he said:)
the_runt69
28-09-07, 08:10 PM
Only 19.10 up at the half and Wilko's now missed 2 conversions and a penalty
And just put another slice off...
philipMac
28-09-07, 08:44 PM
How can you not love Tonga?
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44145000/jpg/_44145629_sipitau2.jpg
Pity about the result. Oh well.
Entertaining game. Seemed England played rope-a-dope rugby??? Big hits but it had the Tongans flagging in the end - they just couldnt match the pace.
tinpants
28-09-07, 09:12 PM
England played well enough to win tonight but it won't be enough to beat Australia. They'll have to lift their game a lot to pull that one out of the bag.
Entertaining game though. Some crunching tackles. Man of the match for me was Lewis Moody. He never gave up and you just can't doubt his commitment.
the_runt69
28-09-07, 09:17 PM
WE'RE THOUGH TO THE LAST 8, god thats better than I thought after the first couple of performances. We actually looked like we could play the game for mot of the time tonight, the Tongans were good and looked dangerous but the backs snuffed out most of the problems and both the Tongan tries were scored because of the conditions on a dry pitch we would have kept them out.
wales need to win tomoro now
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