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Just got a call from JHS in Bristol to be told my bike failed its MOT on the headlights and Indicators not working properly.
Apparantly they were not comming on as expected. And to make it worse its intermittent.
Any ideas what it could be causing this intermitant fault.
As they were fine going there and yesterday on my Bike safr day.
so cross its failed :smt086:smt086:smt086
Red ones
10-09-07, 04:43 PM
I thought the indicators were SUPPOSED to come on intermitantly!
very funny.
i think it was more to do with the fact that the light and indicators would work sometimes and not others.
Warthog
10-09-07, 05:08 PM
Might be in the actually switch unit on the handle, my horn was working intermittently so I sprayed WD40 into the handle and it worked haha. I am such a mechanic. Warning: do not take my advice.
Red ones
10-09-07, 05:11 PM
Now I understand the indicator thing!
my horn was working intermittently so I sprayed WD40 into the handle and it worked
But didn't this sting?
dodgy earth or bad connection?
So JHS didn't try fix it for you?
When I take my own bike to the MOT centre the guy is willing to try sort little things out right there and then. He adjusted my headlights and he found a loose wire to the horn on the 'blade in front of me in the queue.
So JHS didn't try fix it for you?
When I take my own bike to the MOT centre the guy is willing to try sort little things out right there and then. He adjusted my headlights and he found a loose wire to the horn on the 'blade in front of me in the queue.
yes they tried the bulbs to start with, they phoned to ask permission to look into it more @ £46 per hour.
As they are SV experts i am hoping they sort it and quickly.
Its gutting as i knew the lights worked on the way. HOwever the first turn on the way the indicator flashed double quick before returning to normal.
I hope its justa loosconnection/ short to earth.
Red ones
10-09-07, 07:01 PM
So JHS didn't try fix it for you?
There is now some strange rules for testing stations on repairs and retests - all liked to the computerisation of the test.
Yes, they have an allotted time to complete the test. I just thought the experts would have sorted it within the allowed time. I'm just comparing this to my local tester who has been working on bikes for 40 years and knows how to put little things right in the wink of an eye.
It might just be Northern know-how over Southern pedantry.
ThEGr33k
10-09-07, 08:38 PM
Yes, they have an allotted time to complete the test. I just thought the experts would have sorted it within the allowed time. I'm just comparing this to my local tester who has been working on bikes for 40 years and knows how to put little things right in the wink of an eye.
It might just be Northern know-how over Southern pedantry.
He he, its because we dont try to screw each other all the time up here :D
northwind
10-09-07, 10:15 PM
Electrics can be a sod to fix though... If memory serves the headlights and indicators are on the same fused circuit? Possibly same earth too, though that's a guess. So a fault that effects both, you look for eithe rcoincidence or common factors.
So, let's reserve judgement on JHS til we know what the problem actually was, eh? Well, personally I came to my own judgement on JHS a long time ago, but on this particular thing at least keep an open mind ;)
ASM-Forever
10-09-07, 10:34 PM
So JHS didn't try fix it for you?
When I take my own bike to the MOT centre the guy is willing to try sort little things out right there and then. He adjusted my headlights and he found a loose wire to the horn on the 'blade in front of me in the queue.
Not all southern mechanics are crap...my MOT tester rectified a few small things before he issued the pass. Obviously didn't charge either.
You should change to the synthetic blinker fluid...although it can be hard to find.
See http://kalecoauto.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2&products_id=6
Well just got of the phone to JHS, and they seem to think its a problem with the Alarm (meta V2 ) as its wired into the indicators.
It did stop working a few months back for no reason at all. They seem confident that it is fixable though, event if they need to remove the alarm completly.
get it sorted for saturday
get it sorted for saturday
I am hoping they will, belive me!!
Well good news its fixed. Wiring fault they said, ill get the details when i pick it up tommorow evening. £125 though
Dorset doddle here i come!!!
[QUOTE=neio79;1284316]Well good news its fixed. Wiring fault they said, £125 though
QUOTE]
sounds expensive, but at least its sorted
[quote=neio79;1284316]Well good news its fixed. Wiring fault they said, £125 though
QUOTE]
sounds expensive, but at least its sorted
yes but like you say its sorted now:D. Ill let you know exactyly what it was on Saturday. I spoke to the receptionist so she could not go into too much detail for lack of knowledge i suppose.
Ceri JC
11-09-07, 02:08 PM
I would be interested as to what was causing it/the fix as one of my indicators on my K4 is doing the same thing. My headlights, touch wood, are fine. Mine thankfully only started playing up after the MOT.
[quote=hovis;1284326]
. I spoke to the receptionist so she could not go into too much detail for lack of knowledge i suppose.
the flashy things are working sir?
I would be interested as to what was causing it/the fix as one of my indicators on my K4 is doing the same thing. My headlights, touch wood, are fine. Mine thankfully only started playing up after the MOT.
Ill put it on here when i have been briefed tommorow by the 'technitian' ( i suppose that is the name for mechanics now?)
[quote=neio79;1284328]
the flashy things are working sir?
basically yes:rolleyes:
Well it turns out it was a problem in the indicator wiring. Bad connection or something.
Probably caused from the aftermarket mini indicators being stuck on it.
Its sorted, but i feel a bit miffed that i paid 125 for the privilage of it.
He he, its because we dont try to screw each other all the time up here :D
Don't worry, one day you'll find the love of a good women and all that will change.
Well it turns out it was a problem in the indicator wiring. Bad connection or something.
Probably caused from the aftermarket mini indicators being stuck on it.
Its sorted, but i feel a bit miffed that i paid 125 for the privilage of it.
Funniest thread ever, sorry it's at your expense (no pun intended) £125 for after market indicators - the price of fashion eh?
I'd have wiggled some wires for ya for half that! ;)
Tell you one to watch out for-the front brake switch can fur up and stop working. Little squirt of WD and it's fixed.
:)
Funniest thread ever, sorry it's at your expense (no pun intended) £125 for after market indicators - the price of fashion eh?
Yeah , i bet they were laughing as well. I bet all they done was disconnect them and re wire back in properly. It was only so expensive because of the labour costs.
But im rich i can afford it!! LOL
dosent stop it being annoying though.
I was also takling to them about the suspension as well.
JHS dont recommend the GSXR shock upgrade apparantly its not made to withstand the heat of the exhaust running next to it. They will fit it but they dont recomend it. They said if you want to do it on a budget and replace it with an other bikes shock then the SV1000 is a good enough replacement. as its stronger has more adjustment and is built to with stand the heat of the exhaust pipes.
Ill put it on here when i have been briefed tommorow by the 'technitian' ( i suppose that is the name for mechanics now?)
IMHO...
"Technician" sounds a bit better than "Fitter". It may or may not have any legal basis (in fact I doubt it) but when at college there was a discussion about the move away from calling people mechanics. The outcome of that discussion was half that it was insulting to 'real' mechanics to call somone who has little knowledge past changing oil & filter a mechanic and half that because they aren't. In the past (talking cars here a bit) things were adjusted and potentially checked for tolerance. Now that's rather rare (I can only think of valve clearances that actually get checked). Back to the legal bit I wonder if it's a phrase that sounds 'good' that can be used to refer to anyone who get's their hands dirty.
......JHS dont recommend the GSXR shock upgrade apparantly its not made to withstand the heat of the exhaust running next to it......
I've spotted their deliberate mistake-the exhaust is nowhere near the shock! Do I win a prize?
:p
I've spotted their deliberate mistake-the exhaust is nowhere near the shock! Do I win a prize?
:p
No because as you know full well mr Monkey, they meant the SV exhaust running past the GSXR shock once fitted!! ;)
No because as you know full well mr Monkey, they meant the SV exhaust running past the GSXR shock once fitted!! ;)
And your point is?
I agree with Mr Monkey
And your point is?
I agree with Mr Monkey
apparantly its not up to withstanding the heat over time, as its wider.
But i am sceptical as its probably them saying that so they can convince me to buy their reccomended Elka shocks.
But if i was not going to use the GSXR shock then i would be buying a Nitron Sport shock.
If they can put an underseat exhaust an inch away from someones bum and plastics then I'm sure some pipework 4 inches or so away from a shock won't do diddly. I reckon there'd be plenty plenty air gap between, especially as motorbikes tend to move and force air between any gaps unless, that is, you're gonna just sit on it and pose! But all said "I know nothing I come from Barthelona!"
:)
Besides shocks like to be warm to work properly so there.
:)
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