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hovis
11-09-07, 10:10 PM
im getting less than 200 miles for £20 in my 1.3 turbo deisel corsa
does this sound right?

injury_ian
11-09-07, 10:21 PM
better than 200 miles to £45 of super unleaded i get (damn jap spec cars)

husky03
11-09-07, 10:25 PM
Not to bad hovis-i can get anything between 450-600 miles per tankful-£45 -in my zafira-2Ldti just depends how conservate i am with the speed.

husky

tigersaw
11-09-07, 10:25 PM
Thats about 44 to the gallon in old money. I know nothing about your make of car, but It doesn't sound very good.

richie95
11-09-07, 10:29 PM
not right, i have a 2.0 Turbo Special edition DTM/Sportline Audi A4, fast as fu*k its limited to 155 had it upto 140 when the bottle is on, now i get 20p per mile on that (same as you pay) i had a 2.0 TDI A3, which returned 15p per mile, my bike returns 10p per mile...

depends whether your hammering it all the time....

hovis
11-09-07, 10:32 PM
depends whether your hammering it all the time....
hardley ever?

vauxhall say

Urban driving 48

Extra-urban driving 74

Combined figure 61


tigersaw worked out i was getting 44

richie95
11-09-07, 10:36 PM
yeah, i just go by puting money and pressing the miles back to 0, then see what i get, worst is about 160 for £20 and best 200 for £20. i drive round rural, quite a bit of motorway and soem urban..

tigersaw
11-09-07, 10:39 PM
not right, i have a 2.0 Turbo Special edition DTM/Sportline Audi A4, fast as fu*k its limited to 155 had it upto 140 when the bottle is on, now i get 20p per mile on that (same as you pay) i had a 2.0 TDI A3, which returned 15p per mile, my bike returns 10p per mile...

depends whether your hammering it all the time....

20p per mile would be 100 miles on £20

richie95
12-09-07, 06:27 AM
your right, when i put 20 in it reads 150 miles on the trip computer thing, but when i start driving it drops, if i am careful, it can get about 18p, what i am surpirsed about it i put 12 in my SV650 and only got 130 miles???

falc
12-09-07, 06:32 AM
Just worked out mine on the 2.0 Astra SRi is doing 38mpg which isnt too bad, about 11pence a mile

sarah
12-09-07, 06:35 AM
I get about 10 miles per litre in my Yaris but I do abuse it, hit the red line most days. Cost depends on where I get petrol from obviously though.

K
12-09-07, 07:06 AM
Wow.

On a long motorway journey I can get about 180 from £20 of regular unleaded petrol. Round town that can drop as low as 120 though...

... but that's in a 1978 1.8 MGB GT!

So this new car fuel economy isn't all it's cracked up to be I s'pose. ;)

Dan
12-09-07, 07:31 AM
not right, i have a 2.0 Turbo Special edition DTM/Sportline Audi A4, fast as fu*k its limited to 155 had it upto 140 when the bottle is on, now i get 20p per mile on that (same as you pay) i had a 2.0 TDI A3, which returned 15p per mile, my bike returns 10p per mile...

depends whether your hammering it all the time....

How is Hovis's 200 miles for 2000p 20p per mile?

2000/200 = 10 (pence per mile) which is not the same as your Audi GTISRITURBONutterSpecial.

Think you need to rethink your maths there.

Marshall
12-09-07, 07:37 AM
i get 42 mpg out of my 1990 1.8 petrol jetta, and its got 178500 miles on the clock, so i would think your mpg sounds a little low to me

Bluepete
12-09-07, 09:22 AM
That does sound very low Hovis, my Skoda Superb (big'n'heavy) 1.9tdi returns about 48mpg around town and up to 56mpg cross country.
Even when "playing" the other day coming up through Wales from Herefordshire, it returned 43mpg.

Mike2165
12-09-07, 09:29 AM
I get about 10 miles per litre in my Yaris but I do abuse it, hit the red line most days. Cost depends on where I get petrol from obviously though.


Didn't know you could redline a Yaris... The one I hired on holiday was snail slow.

neio79
12-09-07, 09:29 AM
Hovis mate that sounds as though its got a problem somewhere.

My wifes 307 2.0Hdi can do 600+miles on a tank if you drive it at 55-75 MPH everywhere and it takes just over £50 from empty

so it sounds a little low on the old MPG especialy as its a smaller common rail deisel engine.

plowsie
12-09-07, 09:33 AM
Hovis drives a corsa :smt026

Skip
12-09-07, 09:45 AM
I get 130 miles to £20 from a 1988 BMW 325i - thats about 25-26mpg - so I would say you need to stop lead-footing it everywhere! ;)

G
12-09-07, 09:55 AM
Is it a new 1.3CDTI corsa with not alot of miles on it?

Only when I got my company car, it was rated for 52mpg and I was struggling to get over 40mpg. After the first 2000 miles or so it improved significantly, It just needed to bed in.

sarah
12-09-07, 09:56 AM
I get about 10 miles per litre in my Yaris but I do abuse it, hit the red line most days. Cost depends on where I get petrol from obviously though.

Didn't know you could redline a Yaris... The one I hired on holiday was snail slow.

:smt077

Managed to hit rev limiter in 1st, 2nd and 3rd. Not tried 4th yet. And it's definitely impossible in 5th, I have tried that, got to (indicated) 107 and there was no chance that the poor thing was going to go any faster unless there was a really big hill etc.

Mine's a 1litre Yaris so it isn't the quickest! I mostly seem to drive it with my foot on the floor , sometimes using the rev limiter to indicate when to change up a gear.

Skip
12-09-07, 10:08 AM
I mostly seem to drive it with my foot on the floor , sometimes using the rev limiter to indicate when to change up a gear.

Note to self - dont buy a used car from Sarah...!:driving:

sarah
12-09-07, 10:10 AM
Note to self - dont buy a used car from Sarah...!:driving:

My car loves it! :smt077

hovis
12-09-07, 10:14 AM
Is it a new 1.3CDTI corsa with not alot of miles on it?

Only when I got my company car, it was rated for 52mpg and I was struggling to get over 40mpg. After the first 2000 miles or so it improved significantly, It just needed to bed in.

yes.........but its the 110bhp not the 90bhp

and but its done 4000 miles


see how i called it, it & not s/he

G
12-09-07, 10:23 AM
yes.........but its the 110bhp not the 90bhp

and but its done 4000 miles


see how i called it, it & not s/he

hmmmm, strange...some manafacturers guidelines say you wont get the full performance benefits until you have completed the first 5000 miles its normally way before that though.

Bluepete
12-09-07, 10:24 AM
New thread alert!


Name Hovis' car!

Sideshow#36
12-09-07, 10:53 AM
In my VXR I get about 15mpg around town etc and about 35mpg on the motorway. Way below 10mpg though on a good early morning thrash to work though.

tigersaw
12-09-07, 11:16 AM
In my VXR I get about 15mpg around town etc and about 35mpg on the motorway. Way below 10mpg though on a good early morning thrash to work though.

And I thought we had the worst consumption with the Cayenne, but thats never been below 14mpg. (Oh, and you have to budget for tyres per mile as well)

2mths
12-09-07, 12:14 PM
I HATE PEOPLE THAT TALK ABOUT MILES per £

And no I'm not sorry about shouting. I'm feeling annoyed and I don't care.

Hovis - that's not terrible but I'd definately expect better from a small diesel. People have already suggested that it will improve with milage (which I'd agree with), but with 4k on the clock I don't think it's going to improve much. Again it depends on the type and style of driving you do. Lots of short, cold start, stop\start journeys and that would be pretty reasonable.

My 1.4 petrol Polo has given me a lifetime average of about 47mpg. That's dropping now as I'm getting annoyed with the car so driving it harder these days.

sarah
12-09-07, 12:17 PM
I HATE PEOPLE THAT TALK ABOUT MILES per £

Why? Because it's pointless unless you know how much the petrol costs per litre?


My 1.4 petrol Polo has given me a lifetime average of about 47mpg. That's dropping now as I'm getting annoyed with the car so driving it harder these days.

Sounds just like me!

2mths
12-09-07, 12:37 PM
Why? Because it's pointless unless you know how much the petrol costs per litre?

In short - Yes

In Long -
* Because poeple that quote figures like this are probably approximating the milage and the cost potentially adding further error to their statement. (On the flip side if someone has bothered to calculate it I suspect they probably used more accurate figures in the sum)
* Because the actual MPG figure can only be guessed from a "200 miles on £20" statement.
* Further because two different people both saying "200 miles on £20" could actually be getting quite different MPG figures because the cost of fuel in the two situations was different (before considering point 1)

Note: Whilst I'll tolerate it (as it's far preferable to the above) I don't like people who quote MPG figures based on a single talk of fuel. That's likely inaccurate too.

Rant over (she started it!)

sarah
12-09-07, 12:42 PM
In short - Yes

In Long -
* Because poeple that quote figures like this are probably approximating the milage and the cost potentially adding further error to their statement. (On the flip side if someone has bothered to calculate it I suspect they probably used more accurate figures in the sum)
* Because the actual MPG figure can only be guessed from a "200 miles on £20" statement.
* Further because two different people both saying "200 miles on £20" could actually be getting quite different MPG figures because the cost of fuel in the two situations was different (before considering point 1)

Note: Whilst I'll tolerate it (as it's far preferable to the above) I don't like people who quote MPG figures based on a single talk of fuel. That's likely inaccurate too.

Rant over (she started it!)

Cool, I was just wondering. I get really irritated with stuff like that too.

2mths
12-09-07, 12:45 PM
Are you sad enough to keep lifetime records of your vehicle's fuel consumption though?
No?
Thought not.

(I do - I'm one saaad bunny)

sarah
12-09-07, 12:47 PM
Are you sad enough to keep lifetime records of your vehicle's fuel consumption though?
No?
Thought not.

(I do - I'm one saaad bunny)

I used to keep a record in my diary :oops:
How geektastic is that?
Not any more though.

neio79
12-09-07, 12:48 PM
Cool, I was just wondering. I get really irritated with stuff like that too.

yeah i can see why.

I dont keep track of my MPG as such i just know roughly what i can do on a full tank.

It is usefull to know as if like hovis has noticed he might be getting a low return then it could point to a problem with the car.

for examle if i startd getting only 400 miles out of the 307 i would know its got a problem.

where as if like some just ragged their cars and did not care or really notice wha they get from a tank then they could be running with a problem and putting it down totheir driving etc, without stopping to think.

I doubt many on here are wealthy enough just to fill up rag their car and not care if they only get 100 miles out of a tank!!! (slight exageration)

2mths
12-09-07, 12:52 PM
Agreed - A drop in economy could indicate a problem and that's one of the reasons I keep a record. I would concede though that anything likely to affect economy significantly is likely manifest itself in some other more noticeable way. It might tell you if you have a fuel leak though :-)

sarah
12-09-07, 12:54 PM
I would concede though that anything likely to affect economy significantly is likely manifest itself in some other more noticeable way.

Like strange sounds?

I just turn the music up!

neio79
12-09-07, 12:59 PM
yeah, along with the smell and the puddle of fuel LOL

neio79
12-09-07, 01:00 PM
Like strange sounds?

I just turn the music up!

I second what was said, never ever buy a second hand car from Sarah 'Arther Daily' ;)

sarah
12-09-07, 01:04 PM
I second what was said, never ever buy a second hand car from Sarah 'Arther Daily' ;)

:p I didn't get rid of my last car until it had done well over 100k miles, and it's current owner is very happy with it over a year later.

I'll probably keep my current car until it's done 100k miles or until I have to spend any money (other than servicing) on it.

neio79
12-09-07, 01:14 PM
:p
I'll probably keep my current car until it's done 100k miles or until I have to spend any money (other than servicing) on it.

what like a louder stereo to cover the ever increasing sounds of the car falling apart!! LOL ;)

sarah
12-09-07, 01:17 PM
what like a louder stereo to cover the ever increasing sounds of the car falling apart!! LOL ;)

Teehee. I can't be bothered with a car that needs fixing or is remotely unreliable, I do far too many miles for that kind of nonsense. When I think it might be worth paying for AA or RAC I'll get another car instead.

2mths
12-09-07, 01:29 PM
What is "far too many miles" out of interest?

Refering to other comments along the lines of turning the stereo up... That was the advice given to me about a problem I have with the Polo. It makes a loud whining at speeds between 55-75mph and at times it's REALLY loud. Apparently it's not unusual on Polos and is caused by a worn bearing in the gearbox (seems plausable). The bloke reckoned the 'box would still outlast the rest of the car. So unless I want to spend cash on a quiet life just turn the stero up.

That worked untill someone knicked the radio arial. So recently I've been experimenting with using my ipod in the car (yes with headphones).

I've had the car about 4.5 years and put 73k on it, the odo now shows a peep over 90k. I reckon fingers crossed put up with it for two more years, I'll have had 100k out of it and maybe I can treat myself to something nice for my 30th. Only problem is that if I did get anything decent I'd need to move house else it'll get trashed on the street outside my place.

neio79
12-09-07, 01:35 PM
Teehee. I can't be bothered with a car that needs fixing or is remotely unreliable, I do far too many miles for that kind of nonsense. When I think it might be worth paying for AA or RAC I'll get another car instead.

Good in theory, do you get break down wit hinsurance then??

As a car of any age can break down.

sarah
12-09-07, 01:35 PM
What is "far too many miles" out of interest?



I commute 400 miles a week which doesn't sound too bad but on Monday mornings and Friday afternoons the journey is about 150 miles.

In all seriousness about turning the music up though, I do it because my car is fairly noisy, much noisier than my bf's Yaris, I think it must have less sound insulation or something because it's not an unhealthy sounding noise. My car is all mouth and no trousers:D

sarah
12-09-07, 01:37 PM
Good in theory, do you get break down wit hinsurance then??

As a car of any age can break down.

Nope, don't think so.

I've never had a car that has broken down. The biggest problems I've had was a dead battery (the battery was v old) and when I lost ALL the keys for my car including the master key with the magic chip thingy in it.

2mths
12-09-07, 01:44 PM
Hmm 400 a week is quite a whack (about double my little run). I 'think' I'd rather do 150 Mon & Fri and have an easy Tue-Thur than do 80 miles a day every day. Still I guess it depends on lots of stuff.

I have RAC cover though I've never used it. I've always recovered the vehicle (bikes normally) myself. I was going to say I've never had a car break down on me. But then realised that would be a lie as a few months ago the Polo just would not start. Turned out some black box had died (I now have a starter button :-D). It did have the good grace to 'die' whilst parked on my parents drive though so the inconvenience was minimal. I contrast my experiance with that of a colleague who insists financial restraints dicated he use bangernomics and the trouble he's had with a M red Escort and then I don't know what 205 are painful. Undeniably cheap to buy, but I'm not so sure about the running.

hovis
12-09-07, 01:47 PM
I HATE PEOPLE THAT TALK ABOUT MILES per £




calm down dear.............

:smt056

sarah
12-09-07, 01:48 PM
Hmm 400 a week is quite a whack (about double my little run). I 'think' I'd rather do 150 Mon & Fri and have an easy Tue-Thur than do 80 miles a day every day. Still I guess it depends on lots of stuff.



I wouldn't recommend it.

At this rate I'll probably only keep my car for a couple more years before replacing it but I s'pose if it lasts that long I will have had my moneys worth.

redbouy
12-09-07, 02:21 PM
just put a spoke in the wheels as it where. i get about 9 gallons a mile now.But that should change next week cus Im getting new wheels. should push it to about 11g/m. but I get to go faster:p

Skip
12-09-07, 03:06 PM
Are you sad enough to keep lifetime records of your vehicle's fuel consumption though?
No?
Thought not.

(I do - I'm one saaad bunny)
I would like to - but my car has a leaky petrol tank so I cant fill it over halfway... just what you need a leaky tank on a 25mpg car! #-o

2mths
12-09-07, 03:08 PM
Skip - that doesn't stop you keeping records at all. In fact it makes such a system potentially more useful.

Skip
12-09-07, 03:17 PM
Skip - that doesn't stop you keeping records at all. In fact it makes such a system potentially more useful.
It does sort of - I know that when the light comes on its got abot 25-30 miles left and its time to put another £20 in... luckily I pass multiple petrol stations on my commute!

2mths
12-09-07, 03:20 PM
Not at all.

If each time you fill up you note the amount in litres, cost and mileage.
Keep collecting that, stick in a spreadsheet and voila.

Individual entries won't mean much. BUT THEY DON'T FOR ANYONE

However overtime you will be able to see accurately what sort of mpg you get (though you already know) and potentially be able to trend useage (though only over a period of several fill ups).

That all said, whilst possible I agree it's a pointless. I'm just a bit statto about these things.