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Dave The Rave
26-09-07, 12:06 PM
What's the difference between those 2? Does the sport have more grip than road? Does the road last longer?

There is an offer on Michelin's pilot sports at the moment. 2 pairs for 235 GBP. I am tempting to get them unless they last only few thousands miles? Any got them? What are they like?

hovis
26-09-07, 12:17 PM
What's the difference between those 2? Does the sport have more grip than road? Does the road last longer?

yes

There is an offer on Michelin's pilot sports at the moment. 2 pairs for 235 GBP. I am tempting to get them unless they last only few thousands miles? Any got them? What are they like?


i got them on me blade........... as to miles?

but i put them on to go to germany 21st july & i have used the bike most weekends including some long rides, the back is now toast


i would guess 3000-4000miles

Dave The Rave
26-09-07, 12:21 PM
3-4k? Bloody heck. I do 10k miles plus every year.

Flamin_Squirrel
26-09-07, 01:03 PM
For that price who cares, get them. They're good tyres. Lasted 4.5k miles on my ZX-6R.

Swiss
26-09-07, 02:28 PM
Check the offer on the Pilot Power and the Pilot Road to see if they are the 2CT variants or just the standard Pilots. The 2CT versions are dual compound and this in the latest Michelin Tyre. The Standard Pilots are the older models (which is why they might be on offer), not that they aren't great tyres, I had them on the 955i Daytona and really liked them but I did find the rear squared off quickly, I then changed it for the 2CT version and found that to be much better in terms of not squaring (sp?)so badly. I didn't see much over 3K in terms of mileage but that isn't unusual for a sports orientated tyre.
I found them to be good tyres and at 235 for 2 pairs sounds like a steal.

hawkeye
26-09-07, 03:28 PM
Can you share where you're getting them from at that price. Mine are coming up for replacing. Might be a bit of an investment!

Dave The Rave
26-09-07, 05:08 PM
Can you share where you're getting them from at that price. Mine are coming up for replacing. Might be a bit of an investment!

http://www.busters-accessories.co.uk/products.asp?id=437

Here u are m8, 240GBP incl postage.

Trip to my local garage 22.50 for fitting and balancing ... and lets rock and roll!

hovis
26-09-07, 05:24 PM
limited sizes

but they do them for my blade, with the 16" front wheel.............tempted

how much are they normally?

StreetHawk
26-09-07, 05:52 PM
They don't look like the dual compound ones to me... However, good price for two pairs!

Pedrosa
26-09-07, 05:58 PM
limited sizes

but they do them for my blade, with the 16" front wheel.............tempted

how much are they normally?

*PEDANTIC MODE ON*

I seem to recall you denying your Blade had a 16" front wheel when I alluded to the subject in the thread you posted about your new purchase?:confused:

Please carry on,ignore me.....

hovis
26-09-07, 06:07 PM
*PEDANTIC MODE ON*

I seem to recall you denying your Blade had a 16" front wheel when I alluded to the subject in the thread you posted about your new purchase?:confused:

Please carry on,ignore me.....

awwwwwwwwww, bless you remembered

:smt056

Pedrosa
26-09-07, 06:16 PM
Indeed it stuck with me as I found it rather unusual for a Blade similar to yours to have a 17". Dont be admitting you made an error though mate, that just wouldn't do.;)


P.s. Your slight error is nothing compared with some of the humungous one's I have made around these parts.:p

Dave The Rave
26-09-07, 07:01 PM
No they aren't the dual comp. but it will do. Normally 150 pounds per pair. I'll do for me.

Jackie_Black
26-09-07, 07:31 PM
they are well cheap. how much better will they be than the d220's

Dave The Rave
26-09-07, 07:39 PM
they are well cheap. how much better will they be than the d220's

yeah, only think is the low milege

Biker Biggles
27-09-07, 08:56 AM
I have pilot sports on my ZX9R and get really good mileage out of them.It depends how you ride.Smooth and easy gets results,while ragging any tyre will wear it out.
I have a pilot road on the rear now,and I expect to get 8000 miles out of it barring punctures.:mad:

stuartyboy
27-09-07, 02:24 PM
Pilot Sports are obsolete tyres IIRC. Correct me if I'm wrong by all means but I heard they were no longer in production.

ANYWAY shouldn't this be in the TYRES section?

Flamin_Squirrel
27-09-07, 03:44 PM
Pilot Sports are obsolete tyres IIRC. Correct me if I'm wrong by all means but I heard they were no longer in production.

ANYWAY shouldn't this be in the TYRES section?

Undoubtably why they're going cheap, but that doesn't mean they're bad.

hovis
27-09-07, 04:51 PM
im lead to belive they stopped making them 3 years ago?

Dave The Rave
27-09-07, 05:05 PM
im lead to belive they stopped making them 3 years ago?

Not according to the official michelin site ...

linky linky

http://two-wheels.michelin.com/2w/front/affich.jsp?codeRubrique=2092004103844&lang=EN

stuartyboy
28-09-07, 11:24 PM
Undoubtably why they're going cheap, but that doesn't mean they're bad.

I never said they were bad dude.

FWIW I've done a fair few miles this year (travelling to hexham via selkirk on the twisties every 2nd weekend and 3 sets of tyres later ) so hopefully this will help.

Had pilot sports on the cbr and couldn't fault them tbh. 4K I read earlier? Hmmm I'd say that's fairly easy riding. I was getting 3k max.

I moved to Power 2cts and by comparison they are just awesome. No change in riding style and I got 4.5-5k out the last rear. The wet grip was excellent. Dry Grip - just sensational and I really mean sensational. They catapult you out of corners like an arrow.

Pilot Roads - I've not long had a set fitted. (Was on corsa III's and was getting 1500 out a rear. Dry grip great but squared off far too quickly for my liking and I don't do motorways.)

I've been out in the wet a few times on the road's and they're good but I don't push that hard in the wet. I did notice the lean angles were better than what I'm used to on sportier profiles and they DO hold a line very well - no wet wallowing/sliding.

I rode up from Newcastle last weekend in some heavy rain and cruised by some guys on triples/svs/gixxers on the twisties just before carter bar on the a68. I even overtook a pan without too much difficulty which surprised me being on a ss600. Whether that's testimony to the tyres - I can only hazard a guess - normally on sports tyres I would be more tentative but I felt confident on these. Hardly scientific but hey.

In the dry and at lean angles I do feel the treads when cornering which was strange. What I have been feeling is this - on a steady/neutral throttle round a tight bend you can definitely feel the treads reacting to the road surface on the rear. I'm used to much more sporty tyres with more rubber on the edge (powers/corsa III's) so I'm obviously feeling a lot less rubber on the road than I'm used to.

They do hold a line extremely well in the dry - just like the wet which is a bonus. The wear rate however is phenomenal. Done about 7-800 miles on them so far and you'd hardly notice. I'm running 42/36 just now (normally run 38 on the rear) but I feel that i could do with a drop in pressure to get more feel. They do warm up quick though - which for an all round tyre I would say is ideal for most people on most roads in most weathers. Not been on track with them yet so can't comment but the extra treads on the edges would make me a bit wary of creaming it out of hairpins and the like.

Hope this helps and I'll post more after I've done a couple of thou on them.

Rocket
29-09-07, 09:57 AM
I've had loads of Pilot Sports on my thou's. Just topped my stock up with a few more pairs. Average 4.5-5.5K from a rear and 9-10K from a front. They are not cutting edge any more but they work well from cold and are ace in the wet. Chicken strip on the front is less than 5mm and that takes some doing on a 120/70

hovis
02-10-07, 12:47 PM
just ordered 2 pairs thanx d the r

jambo
02-10-07, 02:13 PM
Modern road / sports touring tyres really are phenomenal. The Diablo Stada / Metzler Z6, on a ZX6R like mine has seen 11,000 miles to a pair (the rear was fairly well shot by this point) and scraping foot pegs on the track in the dry. If you need more than that on the road it's down to not liking how they feel, or wanting a flashy name.

It's also worth noting that sports rubber often works better at higher temperatures but can have less grip from the off...

Dave The Rave
02-10-07, 03:06 PM
Mine arrived yesterday. Look nice in the garage :-)

hovis
05-10-07, 04:55 PM
how did they get delivered? im guessing it was not with the PO

hovis
08-10-07, 12:19 PM
mine just arived,

burnout time?