View Full Version : Hovis-Charles Manson avatar????
Pedrosa
28-09-07, 01:08 PM
Come on Hovis, explain why you would choose the picture of a crazed psycopath for your avatar?
A curious choice despite his evil deeds and those of his "converts" having taken place alomst 30 years ago.:confused:
Caddy2000
28-09-07, 01:10 PM
I get the feeling that it might not be one of your more loved avatars Hovis, I still think that Sporticus was fantastic
why not?
i could bring back jade goody
Pedrosa
28-09-07, 01:21 PM
why not?
i could bring back jade goody
I am afraid that says it all really.
kwak zzr
28-09-07, 01:21 PM
narr stick paris hilton in there i enjoy looking at paris :)
Caddy2000
28-09-07, 01:28 PM
narr stick paris hilton in there i enjoy looking at paris :)
You sick, sick man! :rolleyes:
kwak zzr
28-09-07, 01:31 PM
:smt110
Biker Biggles
28-09-07, 01:31 PM
Kwak do you get an Eiffel Tower moment?;)
Come on Hovis, explain why you would choose the picture of a crazed psycopath for your avatar?
A curious choice despite his evil deeds and those of his "converts" having taken place alomst 30 years ago.:confused:
Well it's educational, I wouldn't have known if you hadn't said.
kwak zzr
28-09-07, 01:38 PM
Kwak do you get an Eiffel Tower moment?;)
:roll::roll::roll: :smt102:smt102:smt102 :smt101:smt101:smt101 :oops::oops::oops: :smt077:smt077:smt077
Pedrosa
28-09-07, 01:40 PM
Well it's educational, I wouldn't have known if you hadn't said.
Educational Stu? Meaning you now can associate the picture as being of a person with a very questionable past and mentality? Or do you now know who it is and what he actually did?
If there is some humour intended in the use of that avatar then frankly I just dont get it. Bad taste in my mind.:rolleyes:
Educational Stu? Meaning you now can associate the picture as being of a person with a very questionable past and mentality? Or do you now know who it is and what he actually did?
If there is some humour intended in the use of that avatar then frankly I just dont get it. Bad taste in my mind.:rolleyes:
i dont get whats with pretending to be a motogp rider, nice to see your english has improved though
:smt110
Educational Stu? Meaning you now can associate the picture as being of a person with a very questionable past and mentality? Or do you now know who it is and what he actually did?
If there is some humour intended in the use of that avatar then frankly I just dont get it. Bad taste in my mind.:rolleyes:
why did he do anything to you, i think you are being a bit over sensitive really.
Its not porn so why should it matter?
i might stick one of Hitler in mine just to see you throw your toys out the pram over that!!
a complet over reaction Pedrosa really.
dizzyblonde
28-09-07, 02:09 PM
i might stick one of Hitler in mine just to see you throw your toys out the pram over that!!
its already been done
i might stick one of Hitler in mine just to see you throw your toys out the pram over that!!
its already been done
Goering then!!
or infact one of the whole german high command!!
dizzyblonde
28-09-07, 02:14 PM
now now, no need to rope in the Germans
John 675
28-09-07, 02:14 PM
im not bothered really, i was going to for S hussain... lets keep it recent psychos hovis lol, . . . better not though... :D
they were all bad people but i am sure pedrosa will take the moral high ground on having a pic of them on here!!
i would not class charles manson as a psycho, nor hitler come to think of it
i would not class charles manson as a psycho, nor hitler come to think of it
well depends on your point of view , hilter was a very clever man who had great tactical sence, he lot it towards the end though. clever but unhinged.
still i admire the man for his leadership skills etc. i reccon he would makea good dinner party guest.
on paper the germas should have one the war. they just took on too much at once.
ya there both just misunderstood, but as for charles manson didnt he cover beatles songs
ya there both just misunderstood, but as for charles manson didnt he cover beatles songs
he wrote a few songs, guns & roses covered it he was also an artist
anyone fancy a game of top trump avators?
Like my new Avatar?????
lets see who spits the dummy now!!!!
Moderators: if it is realy offensive to people i will change it i am doing it to prove a childish point!!
Educational Stu? Meaning you now can associate the picture as being of a person with a very questionable past and mentality? Or do you now know who it is and what he actually did?
Yeah the picture bit.
Like It I Love It Its Just Like My Tattoo Lol
Like It I Love It Its Just Like My Tattoo Lol
Which cheek mate ?
i win hands down, top that, more kills than charlie
Like It I Love It Its Just Like My Tattoo Lol
lets have a look
carnt u rated n all that or u on about maggies kills
carnt u rated n all that or u on about maggies kills
i'll show you mine if you show me yours
:smt110
wow look they could have been related theyve got the same eyes
Sideshow#36
28-09-07, 03:01 PM
dunno i can see a white bob marley tbh :-)
Pedrosa
28-09-07, 03:16 PM
Hovis..
Pretending to be a Moto GP rider? Improvement in English? Is your mental uptake so limited that you refer to instances that took place months ago?
Neohuman..Once again you blabber in a manner that causes me to question your morals and ethics. Such nonsense of a consistant nature in many a thread I have never witnessed before. I am sure that your opinions on the Austrian born despot would be well received by those that wore the uniform proudly before you.
I am far from some tutting old house maid my friend and not overly sensitive at all. I merely see the use of Manson as a choice of an avatar as perhaps being in bad taste and leads me to question the thought processes of someone who would choose to use it.
Why not use Hitler, the great mind? A suggestion that could only be offered from a moronic mentality.
Selecting that Manson recorded some music from the rest of his activities or to mention Hitler's high intelligence when choosing to ignore the rest of his history merely leaves me shaking my head in bemusement at the posters.
Did Manson ever do anything to me? Did you actually think about that question before you wrote it? Surely not! That question in itself highlights points I have made above.
*All of the above is my own personal opinion.*
dunno i can see a white bob marley tbh :-)
Uh, bob marley was white mate, well half white anyway, half scouse as well apparently
Hovis..
Pretending to be a Moto GP rider? Improvement in English? Is your mental uptake so limited that you refer to instances that took place months ago?
Neohuman..Once again you blabber in a manner that causes me to question your morals and ethics. Such nonsense of a consistant nature in many a thread I have never witnessed before. I am sure that your opinions on the Austrian born despot would be well received by those that wore the uniform proudly before you.
I am far from some tutting old house maid my friend and not overly sensitive at all. I merely see the use of Manson as a choice of an avatar as perhaps being in bad taste and leads me to question the thought processes of someone who would choose to use it.
Why not use Hitler, the great mind? A suggestion that could only be offered from a moronic mentality.
Selecting that Manson recorded some music from the rest of his activities or to mention Hitler's high intelligence when choosing to ignore the rest of his history merely leaves me shaking my head in bemusement at the posters.
Did Manson ever do anything to me? Did you actually think about that question before you wrote it? Surely not! That question in itself highlights points I have made above.
*All of the above is my own personal opinion.*
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:3T-rmM1pKFOQnM:http://germes-online.com/direct/dbimage/50271787/Handbag.jpg (http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://germes-online.com/direct/dbimage/50271787/Handbag.jpg&imgrefurl=http://germes-online.com/catalog/26/38/268/160560/handbag.html&h=360&w=360&sz=28&hl=en&start=5&tbnid=3T-rmM1pKFOQnM:&tbnh=121&tbnw=121&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhandbag%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3 Den%26newwindow%3D1%26safe%3Doff)
ooh
Pedrosa
28-09-07, 03:25 PM
http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:3T-rmM1pKFOQnM:http://germes-online.com/direct/dbimage/50271787/Handbag.jpg (http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://germes-online.com/direct/dbimage/50271787/Handbag.jpg&imgrefurl=http://germes-online.com/catalog/26/38/268/160560/handbag.html&h=360&w=360&sz=28&hl=en&start=5&tbnid=3T-rmM1pKFOQnM:&tbnh=121&tbnw=121&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dhandbag%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3 Den%26newwindow%3D1%26safe%3Doff)
ooh
Your carefully thought out input to this particluar issue is greatly appreciated,many thanks.
As we say up here ' calm down calm down, is that that nerys hughes over there'?
i was looking for a pic of Vic reeves doin the hand bag stance but couldnt find one, nice bag though eh, its great havin a sense of humor innt
Pedrosa
28-09-07, 03:31 PM
i was looking for a pic of vic reeves doin the hand bag stance but couldnt find one, nice bag though eh, its great havin a sense of homur innt
As you ask, yes the bag is indeed rather fetching. Do you know if they do it in blue?;)
John 675
28-09-07, 04:16 PM
Its getting a bit heated, Its a bit of a silly heated debate as its just a picture IMHO
BUT... if it offends then it should be changed Hovis m8 again IMHO
(i guess my bin laden one is out of the question too!! lol, JOKE!!! ) :D
leemole
28-09-07, 04:30 PM
thought i would join in
Pedrosa
28-09-07, 04:35 PM
Its getting a bit heated, Its a bit of a silly heated debate as its just a picture IMHO
BUT... if it offends then it should be changed Hovis m8 again IMHO
(i guess my bin laden one is out of the question too!! lol, JOKE!!! ) :D
Not heated from this end mate. However I believe myself to be fully justified in pointing out the inapropriate nature of the mentioned avatar. MHO of course.
John 675
28-09-07, 04:48 PM
Not heated from this end mate. However I believe myself to be fully justified in pointing out the inapropriate nature of the mentioned avatar. MHO of course.
i agree and thats all good mate if you feel strongly about it, just reminds me of another thread that went the same way and someone ended up being banned for it and it was orgenaly about which bike someone was getting next...
i just like to see peace amongst our threads.. hovis does say some eye rasing things on occasions but i think thats just who he is, and i find it ammusing:laughat: and it goes over my head..
.... wait sec when did your limited english get better pedrosa.. maybe its when you started losing races you had more time on your hand to learn lol, ;)
Maybe Hovis just made a simple mistake?
Charles Manson.... Marilyn Manson....... easy to do ;)
I've never understood people who hide behind celebrity usernames :rolleyes:
However I believe myself to be fully justified in pointing out the inapropriate nature of the mentioned avatar.
what is inapropriate about it?
Just cause you don't understand what's going on
...don't mean it don't make no sense
And just cause you don't like it,...don't mean it aint no good
and if I offended you, Oh I'm sorry
But, maybe you needed to be offended
But here's my apology and one more thing............**** you!
guess the song lyric;)
guess the song lyric;)
All Kinds of Everything - Dana?
John 675
28-09-07, 05:19 PM
hovis does say some eye rasing things on occasions but i think thats just who he is,
if I offended you, Oh I'm sorry
But, maybe you needed to be offended
But here's my apology and one more thing............**** you!
guess the song lyric;)
I rest my casr :smt046
i might stick one of Hitler in mine just to see you throw your toys out the pram over that!!
its already been done
who by?
Neohuman..Once again you blabber in a manner that causes me to question your morals and ethics. Such nonsense of a consistant nature in many a thread I have never witnessed before. I am sure that your opinions on the Austrian born despot would be well received by those that wore the uniform proudly before you.
I am far from some tutting old house maid my friend and not overly sensitive at all. I merely see the use of Manson as a choice of an avatar as perhaps being in bad taste and leads me to question the thought processes of someone who would choose to use it.
Why not use Hitler, the great mind? A suggestion that could only be offered from a moronic mentality.
Selecting that Manson recorded some music from the rest of his activities or to mention Hitler's high intelligence when choosing to ignore the rest of his history merely leaves me shaking my head in bemusement at the posters.
Did Manson ever do anything to me? Did you actually think about that question before you wrote it? Surely not! That question in itself highlights points I have made above.
*All of the above is my own personal opinion.*
he he i love debating with you, its so easy to get you to bite my spanish GP racing friend!!
yes obviously Manson has not done anything to you.
i just thought you came across bit over sensitive to the pic.
I still think hitler had some great skills, one person convinced a whole country to do what it did, to manipulate people untill the thought like him and followed him. I doubt we will se an other like that in our time.
and i am not condoning his ultimate goals for one second.
Pedrosa
28-09-07, 05:57 PM
Neo... I was not riled,annoyed or took any bait. I was merely prepared to raise my head above the parapet and voice my personal objections to not only a very curious avatar, but to what I believe were dubious comments.
Hey let's all choose a mass murderer,rapist,paedo etc as our own avatar...it seems to be a popular trend so it must be right yeah? Just like the way Nazism swept through the brains of once sensible and intelligent people of Europe.
After all as long as we personally have not been touched by any wrong doing and it was some time ago...then it doesn't really matter does it?
We could put a halt to the post jousting here if Hovis could actually offer a reasoned and sensible explanation,(which was all I sought in the first place) as to what his motivations and thinking were to choose the character he did for his avatar.
Hey let's all choose a mass murderer,rapist,paedo etc
.
a bit OTT?
maybe you could pick a suitable non offensive one for me?
fizzwheel
28-09-07, 06:09 PM
a bit OTT?
Why do you think that ?
Pedrosa
28-09-07, 06:25 PM
Hovis...A clever ploy you continue to use. A mixture of repeated diversion from the subject matter and a dense smoke screen which hides any potential you might have to actually debate this subject.
Are you at all able to reply in a civil,intelligent and adult manner I wonder? Or is what I perceived to be a smoke screen more of an indication of your limitataions? I ask the question only, I do not accuse.
Go on humour me, offer your personailsed justification for this choice of avatar?
Choosing an avatar for you? You really dont want to go there! LOL.
For the record any open minded fellow forum member might read the information on the attached link so that they can decide whether Chrles Manson is indeed a prime choice as an avatar.
http://www.accuracyproject.org/cbe-Manson,Charles.html
dizzyblonde
28-09-07, 06:52 PM
he he i love debating with you, its so easy to get you to bite my spanish GP racing friend!!
yes obviously Manson has not done anything to you.
i just thought you came across bit over sensitive to the pic.
I still think hitler had some great skills, one person convinced a whole country to do what it did, to manipulate people untill the thought like him and followed him. I doubt we will se an other like that in our time.
and i am not condoning his ultimate goals for one second.
oh dear..can I jump on the offended bandwaggon.....a whole country didn't follow, my gran was German and her family didn't follow the leader..thrown out of family farm by fellow countrymen never to return(not a Jew neither).however she's never explained the photo of mystery German officer in her photo album!!!!
there was no evidance linking manson to killing anyone, but if you want a mass murderer,rapist or paedo, as you put it,that is up to you, if it offends anybody then all you can do is offer to remove it
i cant understand why it "offends" you so much
& do i have to have a reason behind why i chosse it?
dizzyblonde
28-09-07, 07:03 PM
Charlie don't offend me Hovis, its just a picture...besides he looks like someone i've met on that avatar. Just like we know someone else who looks like Peter Sutcliffe. Its just someones ugly mug to me
Now see...the thing is it's the person that finds whatever the subject matter is offensive that has the point...the point being that he/she finds whatever it is offensive. The person who posted the picture or material is the one causing offence. In this case, Pedrosa finds the material offensive, Dizzyblonde has concerns, and me? Yes I too am of the mind that as a U rated forum, I do not expect to find people glorifying the nasty side of the human race by displaying pictures of what I find to be an objectionable nature. My father fought to rid the world of the tyranny of Hitler...there are still people alive today who are still affected by what Manson did - Roman Polanski being probably the most well known. Pedrosa does not have to justify anything. I don't have to justify anything. You one the other hand, Hovis & Neio - you have found yourselves having to do just that. So perhaps you should be the ones to 'live with it'...for christ sake...it's a U rated forum - who the blooody hell do you think you are?
dizzyblonde
28-09-07, 07:11 PM
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb45/loubi650/potato.jpg
even if you had this as your avatar someone would find something to whine about, I do agree with what Stingo says..my way of thinking is there is always someone who'll put their foot in it..so to speak
Hovis somehow I suspect another unusal gag in the search for the ultimate avatar and perhaps a little bit more attention? But yep - I to think they should be changed guys... no doubt they are both offensive.
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb45/loubi650/potato.jpg
even if you had this as your avatar someone would find something to whine about, I do agree with what Stingo says..my way of thinking is there is always someone who'll put their foot in it..so to speak
yeah.......... probaly
Pedrosa
28-09-07, 07:47 PM
there was no evidance linking manson to killing anyone, but if you want a mass murderer,rapist or paedo, as you put it,that is up to you, if it offends anybody then all you can do is offer to remove it
i cant understand why it "offends" you so much
& do i have to have a reason behind why i chosse it?
Selective belief if ever I read it. Read the link I posted and you will learn he admitted to at least 12 murders! Are you for real?
I note that you could not change tack from the subterfuge and indicate why you chose Manson? If you had no previous knowledge of him and just selected what you thought wasa nice pic, then surely your own intelligence would have led you to dig for a little information following my "over sensitive comments"?
Trying to somehow claim he was misunderstood,completely innocent or far worse simply some kind of false romantic figure a la Krays,Great Train Robbers etc. Simply does not wash when one considers the deeds perpetrated.
Stingo and Monsta...Many thanks for bringing sense and reason to the debate guys.
fizzwheel
28-09-07, 07:52 PM
I'm not comfortable with 3 users avatars that have appeared in this thread.
So you've all had them removed, the forum isnt the right place for those pictures to be used as avatar's. Possibly as portraits then maybe no harm, but its what those people represent and what they stand and stood for and the acts that they've carried out that makes me feel that they are not suitable subject matter for use as an avatar.
Fizz
You keep your avatar Hovis. It's not offensive as is, after all to anyone who doesn't know who he was and what he did, it's just a face. To anyone who does know, well they knew anyway so could not really be further offended.
Sometimes it's good to have a reminder that it's not a U rated world out there.
You keep your avatar Hovis. It's not offensive as is, after all to anyone who doesn't know who he was and what he did, it's just a face. To anyone who does know, well they knew anyway so could not really be further offended.
Sometimes it's good to have a reminder that it's not a U rated world out there.
You've missed the point - in your opinion they're not offensive...however they are to others...and it's that that is important and carries the weight. In addition, I reckon we're all old enough here to know that it is not a U rated world out there...but right now, we aren't out there...we're in here...and it is U rated. If we want the other stuff we know where to get it...visordown et al, the pub down the road whatever...may be you should consider nipping out for something not U rated that doesn't offend you. I'm happy with my chinese take out and Shiraz/Cabernet but thankyou for asking.
For goodness sake,can this stop now.It is obvious from the way that people have the ability to express themselves in writing ,that we are dealing with people with more than the average quota of brain cells.What does that mean?I just hope that it is a joke that has gone to far ,and people dont know how to back down.
My wife is German and laughs at hello hello, but mention Hitler in a joke and she will take your head off.
If it was a joke then let it go,if it was your intention to upset people then why not go away,bullies will not be tollerated
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb45/loubi650/potato.jpg
even if you had this as your avatar someone would find something to whine about, I do agree with what Stingo says..
My way of thinking is there is always someone who'll put their foot in it..so to speak
I'd like to complain in the strongest possible terms regarding the the use of Mr Potato Man in these forums.
Don't you realise that the many small parts that make up 'Mr Potato Man' pose a serious choking hazzard to anyone unprepared or able to safely handle small plastic parts!
Also, did it ever occur to you that some of us may even be allergic to potatoes, or may of had a bad experience with potatoes resulting in flashbacks and mental trauma, no I didn't think so.
Good day.
Yours, Mr P. Tatoe
Ollie_07
29-09-07, 08:43 AM
Why did i just waste 5 mins of my life reading this?
Its the internet, get over it!
Pedrosa
29-09-07, 08:45 AM
Why did i just waste 5 mins of my life reading this?
Its the internet, get over it!
And no doubt your lips are throbbing after all that exertion!:p
Ollie_07
29-09-07, 09:02 AM
Lowest form of wit my friend:smt038
John 675
29-09-07, 09:37 AM
Contraversy Central over here lol,
would : Ted Bundy, Adrian Arnold, sadam hussain, osama bin laden, George Bush, TonY Hawk, Paris Hilton, Heather greham, Tom cruise, Buzzcocks, Natalie portman, ewan Mcgregor, Charlie "im well" bor"ing-"men, Vince Noir, Old Gregg, Nigel Greasley.... Offend anyone?
Or you can use this avatar maker
: http://www.dookyweb.com/avatars.swf
And be done with the waste of bandwidth lol, :drunken:
Contraversy Central over here lol,
would : Ted Bundy, Adrian Arnold, sadam hussain, osama bin laden, George Bush, TonY Hawk, Paris Hilton, Heather greham, Tom cruise, Buzzcocks, Natalie portman, ewan Mcgregor, Charlie "im well" bor"ing-"men, Vince Noir, Old Gregg, Nigel Greasley.... Offend anyone?
not me......... why?
Pedrosa
29-09-07, 11:51 AM
Lowest form of wit my friend:smt038
But you are so wrong! Don't you even know that?:razz:
John 675
29-09-07, 12:09 PM
LOL @ your new Avatar pedrosa.... but it offends me being a catholic that i am that you use one of the most influencial people of our time to prove a point.....
Nah not really i think its funny lol,;)
Keith1983
29-09-07, 12:26 PM
Just a thought what do we think to chopper?
Just a thought what do we think to chopper?
fine by me.............. ask pedrosa:razz:
Keith1983
29-09-07, 12:35 PM
ha ha, I don't know wether you've seen the film or read any of the books but I consider the man to be an absolute legend!
yup...... seen the film.
legend?
John 675
29-09-07, 12:40 PM
ha ha, I don't know wether you've seen the film or read any of the books but I consider the man to be an absolute legend!
"what you doing mate?" * getting stabbed in the chest * "Listen mate if you carry on doing that mate your gonna kill me!"
"Hello little girl... Hello... im your uncle chop chop"
MINT FILM
*its been a while since i saw it so quotes may be slightly off*
Warthog
29-09-07, 12:56 PM
Why did i just waste 5 mins of my life reading this?
Its the internet, get over it!
:winner:
Pedrosa, get off Ollie's back, why are you personally insulted by everything in this thread? Lighten up, it is just a picture, I personally find 8 pages of animosity between forum users caused by you a lot more disturbing than a picture of Manson.
Keith1983
29-09-07, 12:58 PM
On the manson thing, surely we should be free to have whoever we like, if people don't hold some people in very high regared then so be it. Surely the wonderful thing about the mighty org is the freedom of expression!
Pedrosa
29-09-07, 01:05 PM
:winner:
Pedrosa, get off Ollie's back, why are you personally insulted by everything in this thread? Lighten up, it is just a picture, I personally find 8 pages of animosity between forum users caused by you a lot more disturbing than a picture of Manson.
Personally insulted? Get a life please! On Ollie's back? Sorry I could not figure why someone would make a totally childish post that offered nothing to the debate. ( I also found if quite amusing that another Welshman should emerge from the shadows in Hovis's defence! Now that really did tickle me. Has Hovis been texting all of his pals to get on here? LOL)How much of a post do you read before deciding that it is of no interest to you? Would you then go on to mention that?
Raising a question creates animosity in these parts does it? My oh my! Animosity or indicated childishness and inability to explain oneself. yes it's only a picture isn't it? A simple question was asked...why was that picture chosen? That enough to create animosity?
Your opinion of me is noted,(not that in the overall scheme of things it carries any value) your failure to bring anything of substance to this particluar debate speaks volumes.(The explanation once offered might possibly have led to an apology being given for raising the initial topic in the first place.)
You are to be commended though for standing up against me the bully! FFS!
Hope that is ok with you?:p:p:p:p And hope I have not now tumbled unceremoniously off your Xmas card list.
Keith1983
29-09-07, 01:08 PM
Do we not all think that this is getting a bit childish, if you don't like someones avatar then tough, in my opinion. If it is indecent then that is another matter, but it is up to individuals to decide who they idolise etc.
fizzwheel
29-09-07, 01:20 PM
On the manson thing, surely we should be free to have whoever we like, if people don't hold some people in very high regared then so be it. Surely the wonderful thing about the mighty org is the freedom of expression!
Within in reason yes, but do you really think that a picture of Saddam Hussein with the noose round his neck prior to being hanged is really a suitable picture for an avatar.
Somebody did, and it was used within the context of this thread, I also dont really think that having an avatar of Hitler and then making some of the comments that have been made in this thread either is particulary wise.
I'm gong to lock this now as its just going round in cicles and de-generating into petty point scoring off each other.
I suggest that a few of you have a think about what your motives are and have been within the context of this thread.
Fizz
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