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gettin2dizzy
10-10-07, 08:15 PM
yay or nay?! Just bought a focus diesel which is brilliant :-) has 115hp which gives it a fair whack for 50mpg. However a chip will upgrade it to 145!! Anyone done this? Sounds like it must take it's toll on the engine...
My wet winter commuting days are over ... Not a moment too soon!
454697819
10-10-07, 08:34 PM
yay or nay?! Just bought a focus diesel which is brilliant :-) has 115hp which gives it a fair whack for 50mpg. However a chip will upgrade it to 145!! Anyone done this? Sounds like it must take it's toll on the engine...
My wet winter commuting days are over ... Not a moment too soon!
firstly legally you would need to tell your insurer,
115 to 145 sounds a bit mutch, i woudldnt go any higher than 130 as bits will start to wear out quicker, but thas just my opinion....
Iv considered it on my diesels but my isnurer didnt like it..
oh and dont forget the brakes will only be built for 115 bhp!
im led to beleive that the £200+ ones are ok, but the cheap ones on ebay are crap
gettin2dizzy
10-10-07, 08:43 PM
yeah i'd go for a good one definately. The car can handle it, i wanted a sensible car and it's a hoot :-)
(and a dry hoot at that!) :-)
kwak zzr
10-10-07, 09:28 PM
i've been told my passat will take one and increase my bhp by about 30% but TBH its quick enuf and the MPG is great.
MR UKI (1)
10-10-07, 09:37 PM
McCain Oven Chips for me :D
phil24_7
10-10-07, 11:06 PM
Though this thread was the reverse of the cooking oil as fuel thread!:-)
gettin2dizzy
11-10-07, 06:36 AM
it is meant to increase efficiency too- if your driving at the same pace anyway.
JamesMio
11-10-07, 06:58 AM
Focus TDCi's are great cars, I was sooo close to buying one last year (got offered a deal on a good Mondeo I couldn't refuse instead). The missus has got a petrol Focus & I love driving it, you can just throw it round pretty much any corner you find - it's great!
gettin2dizzy
11-10-07, 07:01 AM
Yeah i did it the other way, looked at a mondeo diesel I liked then went for the focus for its throwability! :) Give it 140bhp and a dollop of torque and it would be great fun :)
ianofbhills
11-10-07, 08:59 AM
If your going to do it personally i would get your cars ecu remapped.
The diesel tuning box's/chips you see advertised only work by increasing the fuel pressure which gives a nice hike in the power and torque but the car constantly overfuels and you get loads of smoke out of the exhaust which leads to a blocked particle fiter if your car has one.
At least with the remap the turbo boost and fueling are altered to an optimum level so the car fuels correctly throughout the rev range and you get a nice efficient and larger increase in power and torque.
I had my van remappped and the difference in driveability is staggering. Before it was quite laggy waiting for the turbo to spool up then the power kicked in at 3000 rpm now i get peak torque at just 2000rpm and its noticeable smoother.
well worth it imo
ianofbhills
11-10-07, 09:02 AM
This is the torque graph of my van on the rolling road.
red line is pre remap
blue line is with the new map
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v726/ianofbhills/remap002.jpg
gettin2dizzy
11-10-07, 09:22 AM
wow! Was it the place that fitted it that made the graph? as it does look like excel....
I wouldn't go the ebay route. I'd go the £300 take it in somewhere for the day and let them do it route.
ianofbhills
11-10-07, 09:58 AM
graph was from the rolling road place and i know what you mean it looks bogus eh. The van is so much better to drive tho i dont really care what the figures are or how accurate that graph is.
I got mine done at a place in glasgow and the cost was £250 inc the before and after runs on the rolling road. It took them about 3 hours to do it but i'd imagine with a bit more common engine like the ford tdci it wouldnt take as long. That was part of a group buy on a car forum and i think the normal price is circa £300.
gettin2dizzy
11-10-07, 10:39 AM
Any noticeable difference in fuel consumption? I think it's worth a go at some point :) however I find it amusing that you can get a 'chip' on ebay for a tenner! :S
A common engine! tchuh! ;)
ianofbhills
11-10-07, 10:52 AM
:oops: i kinda meant more common then my van engine. I'm guessing there are a few people driving remapped tdci's and less so driving remapped combo vans :p
All the places that do diesel remaps quote your meant to see an increase in fuel consumption however i noticed a drop. I think its more a case of my heavy right foot and the fact that if my van goes qucker i'll drive it quicker tbh
remf179
11-10-07, 12:26 PM
I ran a passat TDI 130BHP 4 motion a year or so ago and had that chipped with a very expensive system that could be turned on or off by the cruise control.
I gained more fuel economy when driving normally and STUNNING performance. It was on a rolling road to be set up and came out at 173BHP. The car was amazing. It had the close ratio 6 speed box and the 4 motion so the acceleration for a deisel estate was AWESOME.
My mate has a focus with a similar system and has had no problems at all in 50K miles of driving, increased fuel economy when driving normally and great performance. Well worth doing.
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