new MOT law

[hovis]

Word of warning for future mots. New law came in on OCT 1st, any vehicle registered on or after 1st Jan 2001 that does not have the outlets name and post code on the bottom of the number plate, or any ghosting on the plate is now illegal. It will fail the mot and the plod could pull you for it

[Frank]

stupid law!
Is it April 1st

[-Ralph-]

Quick sub note....
It's an England and Wales thing, doesn't apply in the bonnie homeland!
I love the Scottish parliment, they say no to all these stupid things that keep gettting passed in Westminster.

:cheers:

[Steve_God]

Where did you hear of this hovis?
It screams 'MCN scare story' to me...

[Beenz]

This is nothing new. The law is clear on number plates (daft as it may seem), this might be new for an MOT but plod have had powers to have a quiet word for quite some time.

You need to have the plate manufacturers name and post code, not the bike dealer.

http://www.dvla.gov.uk/media/pdf/leaflets/displayofnumberplates.pdf

[markmoto]

tis true guy at the mot station told me the other day, they wont accept anything other than a totaly legit plate and the only graffix allowed are country emblems etc no lfc or anything like that.

[tomjones2]

TBH I can't see an issue with this, I have some blue sidelight bulbs and no rear reflector because of a tail tidy. I just attach/change the offending parts takes 10 minutes once a year. At the end of the day I can see why the police want us to have legal plates.

[Paws]

That sucks! ive always had a cheeky little slogan underneath me reg number and never had ny probs with it :(

[Grinch]

When was your bike registered, as mine is 99 so I don't care.

[DarrenSV650S]

Quick sub note....
It's an England and Wales thing, doesn't apply in the bonnie homeland!
I love the Scottish parliment, they say no to all these stupid things that keep gettting passed in Westminster.

:cheers:
Gotta love Scotland:smt023

Altho I don't think I would care about that law if I was in England either tbh

[Paws]

When was your bike registered, as mine is 99 so I don't care.

Dont have one at the mo do i :(
when i get them (yes fingers crossed, THEM) one will be anywhere from 95 onwards and the other will be 06 onwards. (winter hack & summer toy :cool: [-o<)

[northwind]

Quick sub note....
It's an England and Wales thing, doesn't apply in the bonnie homeland!


I thought MOTs etc weren't devolved?

[-Ralph-]

I thought MOTs etc weren't devolved?

I was referring to the law on the number plates rather than the MOT itself.

Now I'm doing this from memory of what I read when the number plate law changed, so don't be surprised if somebody posted "your talking ********" with a link to some official website. If they do I will bow to the correction 'cos I can't be arsed to go and find that official website....

I believe that to have a number plate made in England and Wales, unless you have the old plate, you need to produce your V5, and the manufacturers name will be on the plate. The manufacturer must be authorised to make and sell plates. Whereas in Scotland you can still walk into Tam Broon's Motor Accessories store and buy an unmarked plate. Scotland did adopt the readability part of the law however so you need to display the correct font and spacing. I'm not sure if there is any restriction on the fonts you can have made though. The likes of Halfords, Partco, etc will have the same policy UK wide so I imagine you will get a England legal plate, even in Scotland.

I would imagine therefore, that the MOT simply looks for a legal numberplate and in Scotland, no markings is legal. Would be nice to hear from a Scottish MOT tester though.

[Lozzo]

tis true guy at the mot station told me the other day, they wont accept anything other than a totaly legit plate and the only graffix allowed are country emblems etc no lfc or anything like that.

Your MOT guy might not, but my one realises that I'll change it as soon as I get home so isn't bothered by such trivial matters. As long as the bike passes the safety requirements of the test he's fine, and he is very strict about that side of the test. Things like loud pipes and small numberplates aren't safety items and he doesn't fail you for them.

Imo the MOT test should be mainly based around safety, and not the big-brother attitude the govt is inflicting upon us. If they didn't keep introducing these pathetic laws, then they wouldn't get so much rebellion against them. I'm not a lover of small plates, but I'm tempted to get one now just for the hell of it.

[markmoto]

the new mot law on plates only effect bikes registered after 2001. Bikes before this from what i understand are exempt and could still pass with a small plate.

[tomjones2]

the new mot law on plates only effect bikes registered after 2001. Bikes before this from what i understand are exempt and could still pass with a small plate.

Surely you need to have a legal size plate to get through an MOT? I thought this new law meant that the new style plates with plate manufacturers postcode must be on the plate.

[Zuki_soldier]

Is it just me, or is this another pointless law thanx to the borin old coffin dodgers in parliment?

[hovis]

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"Right, checked with the MOT chap at Unit 4 in Newport when I took the VFR for its certificate. It's not an MOT fail to not have the dealer and post code on the plate, it's allowed to have them, but not an MOT requirement."

[jimmy4237]

It's long been the case in Scotland where if the MOT man can read the no plate from a set distance, then it's alright. There are MOT standards and then there's plod standards. The plate might be good enough to satisfy the MOT man, but not good enough for the police. I've already had this arguement with a traffic copper in a stop check who was unhappy with my 9x7 plate due to it having a black border. But it passed it's past 4 mot's with the same plate, so stuff what plod says

My local MOT station has two testers for bikes - one of them will insist on a plate which is 9x7, standard font and a BS mark. He also hates loud cans. The other guy (the boss) sees the plates and race cans as trivial things and concentrates more on the safety aspect of the bike (head bearings, wheel bearings, etc). I just change the wee plate over to a legal one for the MOT. Only takes two minutes and saves a load of hassle.

The local Yamaha bike shop will do MOT's but will insist on legal font 9x7 plates with a BS mark on them. Slogans and other images are not a problem. You don't need the supplying outlet branded onto a licence plate in Scotland. That's a crazy english ruling. The country has turned into a police state..

[Spanner Man]

Morning all.

I have to say that I think we have bought this new regulation upon ourselves, for despite the tightening up of number plate laws some years ago, with the adoption of registered suppliers etc. One can still get plates as long as they're sold as show plates, with an appropriate disclaimer sticker.
Also some motorcyclists insistence of having a plate the size of a fag packet, mounted at an odd angle can't have helped either!

Minor flouting of any such regulations or guidelines are usually ignored, but if enough people do it beyond a certain point eventually the regulations will be changed.

Cheers.