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Shellywoozle
17-10-07, 12:09 PM
8 weeks ago today I had my off - I went to the fracture clinic today and saw the surgeon himself s I was all excited.

But, no my arm is NOT showing any signs of healing which he finds odd :( Todays X-ray is exactly the same as the one the day I had me off.

I asked about an operation but he says where the break is it may not help with the healing process. My break is actually right on my right shoulder, not under as I thought.

So I have to go back to see him in another 3 weeks. He asked me if I could move it but I was told not to so I tried. I could bend my arm from the sling position to half way straight, I couldn't lift it.

I have to do light physio else I wil loose movement in my arm even if it is mended .... confused physio wth a broken arm? I have an appointment on Friday morning.

Ahhhhhh 8 more weeks off work :thumbdown: and a worried Shell.

Has anyone heard of physio on a broken bone, will it not make it worse. Feels yuk when I try to move it.

kwak zzr
17-10-07, 12:24 PM
oowwwww:( sorry to hear this shell:( the hopital know what they are doing your in safe hands, i still cant bend my arm its too painfull and it doesnt feel mended but doc's say otherwise:confused: let us know how you get on friday.

Amanda M
17-10-07, 12:42 PM
Aww, no :( :thumbdown: Sorry to hear you're not mending Shelley, lets hope it gets better soon! Good luck with the physio on friday :)

Kwak, it's weird but my thumb still doesn't feel 'right' even though it officially is fixed, but apparently the more you use it, the better it will feel which is what people keep telling me. I had absolutely no movement when it had come out of the cast but the physio has helped a lot.

kwak zzr
17-10-07, 12:48 PM
Kwak, it's weird but my thumb still doesn't feel 'right' even though it officially is fixed, but apparently the more you use it, the better it will feel which is what people keep telling me. I had absolutely no movement when it had come out of the cast but the physio has helped a lot.


i'll heal in time;) lets hope shelly starts to mend now:D

Amanda M
17-10-07, 12:54 PM
:grouphug: for everyone who's broken at the moment and some special healing vibes for Shelley :D

rigor
17-10-07, 01:00 PM
Feel for you Shelly :(

I had physio on my broken collar bone (2nd time), while it was still healing. Sometimes I think they use the physio to make sure you can keep as much movement as possible in you shoulder, if you don't move it, you lose it kinda thing. They won't get you to push it too hard, just move it until it feels slightly painful, then stop and repeat. It does help!!!

Samnooshka
17-10-07, 01:04 PM
Sorry to hear this Shell :( good luck with physio!! keep us updated.

Spiderman
17-10-07, 01:10 PM
Ah that sucks big time. Sorry to hear you news.

bad, bad bones. I'd give em a slap for you but i think that might be counter productive, lol.

Heal well.

Shellywoozle
17-10-07, 01:11 PM
Thanks guys, feeling kinda sorry for myself at min, keeping tears at bay. I am going to my docs tomorrow gonna get a second oppinion, sure the docs are right.

I tried to move my shoulder and it's too painful, feels like moving bones ..... yuk yuk LOL

Healing vibes all sucked in, lets hope they work :)

Zuky will have to be alone a bit longer. Should I be doing something to her as she has now been left standing 2 months and looks like all winter now ... me not being mechanically minded.

Paws
17-10-07, 01:33 PM
between me and you shell we make a good pair!!
Im back hospital next week, been 5 weeks by then-last time i went there was no change.
Shell-i think me and you need to hire our own cow and get drinking LOTS of milk!! lol xx

anna
17-10-07, 03:16 PM
:grouphug:

Aiki
17-10-07, 05:44 PM
A friend of mine broke her leg skiing, and after 8 weeks in plaster there was no healing, the consultant said this was because she wasn't putting enough weight on it, therefore the two ends weren't touching so they couldn't knit.

You could try compressing the break axially with a bandage and see if it helps.

Get well soon,
Rob

Paws
17-10-07, 08:15 PM
A friend of mine broke her leg skiing, and after 8 weeks in plaster there was no healing, the consultant said this was because she wasn't putting enough weight on it, therefore the two ends weren't touching so they couldn't knit.

You could try compressing the break axially with a bandage and see if it helps.

Get well soon,
Rob


thats what the doc said to me-ive gotto start trying to stand/put more weight on it, i can do it for abit and then it starts to hurt again.:(

kwak zzr
18-10-07, 07:58 AM
with me it never really hurt when i broke my collarbone but now the slings off OH MY LIFE! because the joints have been immobilized for such a long time they dont want to bend again:( this is now very painfull.

Shellywoozle
18-10-07, 08:06 AM
I wish it was so simple, I can't put weight on it, the break is right on my shoulder, the upper arm where the ball goes into the shoulder socket, sp I need my arm to hang to pull the bone downwards, well my arm has been hanging for 2 months LOL, maybe I need a heavier arm LOL.

Going to try arnica and a few chinese remedies, see if another approach can get my bones sticky.

I had no sleep last night, I kept hearing the Surgeom saying the bad things, like IF it mends, and I may loose use movement wise...... why do we never focus on the good things, not that he said anything good.

Hope your bone starts to bend Kwak, sure it will with time and manipulation with P/T.

As for PAWS - I am looking now for 2 suitable cows with Super milk for us.

kwak zzr
18-10-07, 11:34 AM
i recommend cheese on toast:) i shoved loads of that down my neck while ive been at home, maybe thats where the calcium has come from:)

Shellywoozle
18-10-07, 02:46 PM
Mmmmm OK I am on the cheese on toast now ..... just fancied some, and hot milk. I ave been on hot milk since I did this, I think I am getting dud cows milk.

Shellywoozle
19-10-07, 12:09 PM
Went to physio today and learnt alot more from them than the surgeon.

I must have landed on my elbow when I had my off, which has in turn pushed my arm up into the shoulder breaking the humerous head pushing the arm bone it into the head, so my bone is inside the other keeping it in pace, hence less pain than before.

It is not healing because my shoulder has been pushed forward, and because I have not used my arm for 2 months I have major muscle wastage, my shoulder blade muscle is not pulling my shoulder back and hence my shoulder won't go back to place.

So when I mentioned my abnormal shoulder 4 weeks ago to the dr's it appears I knew more than them hee hee.

2 weeks of physio before I go back, I am doing my exercises whilst drinking milk and eating cheese LOL

stewart-250
19-10-07, 03:59 PM
I came off my bike in August and smashed my right wrist to bits, end of the radius was in 9 pieces. Two operations, enough stainless steel to open a small hardware shop and 6 weeks in plaster thankfully saw the bone back in one piece. I must admit though I was worried about it not healing due to the severity of the damage and would have contacted these people here
http://www.physioclinic.net/index.html (http://www.physioclinic.net/index.html)
had the bone not started growing. No personal experience of them but if they treat people like John Reynolds then they must be worth a look. Reading through the case studies on the web site they seem to be able to get bones to start knitting when convention treatment is not working.

Not saying this is the route you should take just something else you should perhaps consider. Sure it'll probably cost a lot of money but at the end of the day you can't put a price on health.

My thoughts are with everyone out there with broken bodies, get well soon one and all.

cheers

Stewart

K
19-10-07, 06:24 PM
All the best for you m'dear.
I've had to do physio on broken leg bones, it's not as uncommon and you'd first think.

If the limb/area/etc isn't 'used', apart from the obvious stiffness and muscle wastage, you get a lack of blood circulation = all those good things that get carried along with it.

Good blood supply is essential for healing, and by simple movement and light exercise you encourage it in that specific area.

It's a pain ;), but will do you good eventually.

As for Doc's constantly harping on about the worst possible scenario - well - if it happens at least you are prepared, but I think it's mostly done so you can feel smug when you actually achieve most that they say. That positive boost then helps you achieve more etc etc.

Shellywoozle
25-10-07, 08:25 PM
UPDATE (sorry if I confuse you but I am confused myself)

Last thing I did was see the surgeon at Hospital no 1, the hospital I have been to since day one. Surgeon said he could NOT operate and to start physio, he would then see me in 3 weeks. If I wasn't healing he may operate ????

So with Surgeons indecisiveness I was unhappy and went along to my local GP, asked for a referral for a 2nd opinion which would take me to Hospital no 2.

With me so far.....??

Today I receive a letter inviting me for an out-patient appointment and in-patient appointment at a completely different hospital (Hospital no 3). So I assume in-patient offering me a bed means I am going in for an op, but why to a hospital I have never been involved with?

So I ring the Hospital no 3 and find the my origianl surgeon had referred me and booked me in without telling me. I even have a physio appointment with hospital no 1 booked for the day after my operation appointment. This can't be good practice, patient not even being asked.

But I think, ahhhh did my GP push along my surgeon and maybe found me a better surgeon, so I called my GP to find that they had nothing to do with it and I am infact waiting for hospital no 2 to get to me with a appointment date.

So all in all, my original surgeon is RUBBISH and doesn't know his **** from his head and I am having an operation on my arm with people that are seeing me the day before.

My faith in the NHS is rock bottom and after a BIG complaint is going in.

Today I have not known if I am coming or going ...... oh well I have an opeartion ahead, even if I don't know what's going on I hope they do LOL

kwak zzr
25-10-07, 08:57 PM
sorry to hear this shelly:( i'm in a simalir boat:( my sling came off last wed and i was told "all healed and start physio" monday i ring up and ask for another app cus it dont feel right? see doc wed and have 2 more x rays to find out its still broke:( now wait another 4 weeks out of a sling to see if nature does its thing then if it doesnt i'm going to start and look like my avatar.

Shellywoozle
06-11-07, 12:18 PM
How are you doing Kwak? Assuming you're still in you sling?

I am thoroughly fed up. Was meant to be operated on today, I had the hope my arm would be pinned. I had an appointment to see my new surgeon yesterday, they took my blood etc and then sent me for an X-ray.

3 hours later I saw the surgeon who said although the X-ray isn't showing he thinks the bones mending, he doesnt want to op because that would mean skin and bone graft off my hip and leave me wit 2 big scars, instead I am to go back to see him in 3 months.

I asked him for a sick note and he signed me fit for light duties so in effect signed me back to work. But work won't have me back until I am sorted. gggggrrrrrr

Looks like 3 more months of sitting about in cyber world. :(

On a good note my bike is completey fised, last part went on last week, the brake lever :)

kwak zzr
06-11-07, 01:17 PM
am out of the sling and using my arm for light everyday stuff, at the hospital in 2 weeks to see what they are going to do with me:( i dont really have much pain and can do most things with the arm so i havent a clue what they are going to do? he mentioned the op 2 weeks ago but decided i should wait another 4 weeks to see if natural healing would take place:( good news on your bike being fixed tho:) mines all fixed to and ready to go!

Shellywoozle
06-11-07, 03:04 PM
Good ain't it, the bikes are ready just us that ain't I am itchin to ger back on her too.

Paws
06-11-07, 03:22 PM
well im back hospital on 7th dec to see what the next step is with my leg...shall we start placing bets wether im going to be like you 2 and possibly need a op or not :rolleyes::p

kwak zzr
06-11-07, 03:25 PM
touches wood:) you'll be ok:)

Paws
06-11-07, 03:51 PM
touches wood:) you'll be ok:)


dont bad things happen in 3's??? ;)

kwak zzr
06-11-07, 03:53 PM
err yea, ooops sorry:(

kwak zzr
06-11-07, 05:01 PM
arrrr man! work phoned, i got an interview on Thursday to see why i cant work, i thought that was obvious:)

Paws
06-11-07, 08:08 PM
arrrr man! work phoned, i got an interview on Thursday to see why i cant work, i thought that was obvious:)

Lol, thats the rm for you, my dad has those interviews etc all the time when his knee plays up.

Shellywoozle
07-11-07, 10:27 AM
Crossed fingers Paws that you don't need an op. They was teasing me with an op, not nice of them taking it away the day before :(

My work are having a meeting about me tomorrow, they don't know what to do with me. I could tell them a few things LOL

Could look for your meeting Kwak, sure it'll be ok.

colinsv25
07-11-07, 12:29 PM
im in a slightly different boat to u ppl with broken bones,ive got a bad back & ave been off work for the last 10 weeks,seen my doctor on numerous occasions & he couldnt tell me wot was up.
so last tuesday went to see a specialist & and guess wot he couldnt tell me wot was up either so on monday 12th of november ive gotta ave an mri scan on my back to see wots wrong with me:confused:.


worse thing is i cant ride my bike either as it hurts my back lifting my leg to get on it.

kwak zzr
07-11-07, 01:02 PM
ohhhh sell it me back:) :) :) sorry to hear about your back colin:( we'll all be back next summer:)

colinsv25
07-11-07, 01:08 PM
has any1 ever had an mri scan.

wot actually happens :confused:

some people tell me they aint nice

kwak zzr
07-11-07, 01:14 PM
my mrs had one on her lungs she said it wasnt a problem.

colinsv25
07-11-07, 03:02 PM
aint lookin forward to it if im honest.

my work sent me a letter last week to go for a meetin on friday 2nd november i received my letter on saturday =D>:smt044:smt044.

my managers r useless:smt075:smt075:smt021:smt070

northwind
08-11-07, 02:00 AM
has any1 ever had an mri scan.

wot actually happens :confused:

some people tell me they aint nice

First of all, they stick this massive probe up your...

Nah, no stress really, they can be a wee bit claustrophobic depending on the hardware and the patient but even my mum did OK and she gets claustrophobic if she wears a wide-brimmed hat :) It's totally non invasive, sort of like an x-ray but without the sterility. BUT! If you've got any steel implants in you, ie pins for broken bones, make sure they know! No messing. They should ask but, you never know. I got told over and over after I got mine to be careful of this, mine are surgical stainless but still MRI-Unsafe.

K
08-11-07, 12:46 PM
has any1 ever had an mri scan.

wot actually happens :confused:

some people tell me they aint nice

It's like being eaten by a really large, noisy polo mint.





No, really.







Honest. The machine look like a mahoosive polo.
It's noisy, but apart from that I found it really cool. Though I did get laughingly told off by the operator for making pinging noises and pretending I was a torpedo. :oops: :twisted:

yorkie_chris
08-11-07, 01:15 PM
has any1 ever had an mri scan.

wot actually happens :confused:

some people tell me they aint nice

Yes, absolutely nothing to worry about.

You lie down, the thing spins round and makes some funny noises, thats about it.