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I'd been in touch with a fella about some wheels he had going for a Transalp. I eventually got to see him and the wheels at the weekend and agreed to buy them. £160 for the wheels and tyres however he was happy to let the wheels go on their own.
Monday I mailed him after looking at my tyres and reading reviews of the tyres on his and mailed him to say I didn't need the tyres but would give him £100 for just the wheels and that I'd get them off.
Today after work he replied to say he'd sold the whole bike to someone else! What an ****hole eh?! What makes it worse is that after agreeing a price for the wheels I asked how much he paid the insurance company for the written off bike and he said they cocked up and gave it to him for nothing!
What should I reply to him that will make him feel really guilty or how can I terrorise him a bit? Maybe via e-mail?
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ASM-Forever
17-10-07, 11:30 PM
Unless you put a deposit down, which i assume from your post you did not, then tbh i dont think the guy has done anything wrong.
When you sell anything, especially bikes/cars(parts) you get so many time wasters, that the first person to physically come up with the cash, gets the goods.
I would of done exactly the same as the bloke.....sorry.
My insurance company gave me my SV for free after it was written off...if the assesor tells them its toast, then sometimes they are not interested, even if it still has some value. I fail to see what bearing that has on you?
He didn't have the wheels off yet and didn't ask for one as we'd agreed when I was going to collect them! I am usually the first to give a deposit.
I was angry. I've spent literally months trying to find at least a good rear wheel. Gonna try and build one I think. Ones on ebay go for way over the mark because there aren't a lot about.
ASM-Forever
17-10-07, 11:45 PM
Its always a pain to miss out on something, especially if you've been searching for a while, but until money changes hands, there's the risk you'll miss out.
In a better world, trust alone would suffice.
Sideshow#36
18-10-07, 12:09 AM
I had a similar thing the other week buying a van. A couple of fridays ago I did a 160mile round trip to look at a van that was listed on flebay. I kindly asked the guy if he would consider ending it early if I offered the right price. He said no and to be honest that is fair. The van was ending saturday evening and I came home from work on Saturday morning and the van was gone! The w*****r had ended the van early and sold it to someone! So annoying. However every cloud has a siver lining and I found an even better van, it was newer better nick and ended up paying less than what I was gonna offer the guy for the first van. I understand if people wont end things early on ebay as it is an auction site, however stick to your guns if you say you wont end it!
sorry, but theres nowt you can do, TBH it was probaly eaiser & a lot less hassle for him to seel the bike whole
still a pi$$er though
Sid Squid
18-10-07, 06:38 PM
Terrorise sounds good.
Agreed. With extreme predjudice. You had an agreement and that's all a gentleman should require, so it's entirely reasonable that you go round and criticise his haircut or curtains or.. something.
Alternatively, you might consider having a better quality rim laced on to your existing hub, Honda wired rims are notoriously rotty, many 'Alps succumb to this very problem. Try Hagons or similar.
I was going to try and make a wheel myself. I really need to keep the costs down on this one an reckon if I fail I can always send it iff to be done. Apparently there's a fella near me that can do one for cash. Not sure the spokes are good enough though. Think spokes and a stainless rim are about 80 or 90 quid from wheel central.
You're right Mr Squid! I thought it was very underhand. Looking now it might be the case that he's only posted a few times on the forum so a bad egg it seems.
Maybe I'll :smt068him or :smt066or :smt075 him or worse than all of those :smt034!!!
Or sleep with his missus?
with halloween aproching i think you should throw eggs & flour all over his house
Or sleep with his missus?
I think that would be rubbing salt in MY wound!
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...and agreed to buy them. £160 for the wheels and tyres .....
Monday I mailed him after looking at my tyres and reading reviews of the tyres on his and mailed him to say I didn't need the tyres but would give him £100 for just the wheels .....
And he probably read that as time waster :rolleyes: Aware you wanted to save moneyt but he didn't, he was just trying to make some
northwind
18-10-07, 11:05 PM
It sounds like you didn't have a deal though, since you'd not agreed on a final price? Maybe to him you were still thinking about it?
I agree with you slightly Northwind but when I turned up to see the wheels two days earlier I didn't know and he didn't know if I was taking one wheel, two wheels, tyres or nothing and he didn't have the wheels off. When I mailed him the day after I gave him a very easy opportunity to say "take the lot or I'll sell them on" via mail, but the very next day after that he had sold the WHOLE bike from another forum member. That's funny you've got to admit. I'd even arranged a weekend to go over and collect them when we both knew we weren't doing anything. He's basically a bit of a tosser who joined the forum to make some money after getting his bike back for free and was probably playing us all to get the most he could.
I've learned not to rely on anyone like that unless I can take the bits away with me there and then. I've sold a few bits on here and everyone has been great! I haven't bought any though. What would have happened if I'd given him a deposit? He'd have still seen $ signs, sold the bike and had to awkwardly give me back my deposit. He's not gonna hang on to a bent frame and a scraped up engine in case it didn't go is he?
I'm gonna hunt the buyer down and try and get the wheels off him anyway.
P.S. Graeme, A scottish fella and Sideshow will say I'm very fair when selling bits. So there.
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Far as i can see the guy done nothing wrong. How is he to know you will definatly take em of him? If you wanted them so bad it would have been wise to leave a deposit and got a reciept but of course you could not if you did not know exactly what you wanted!. Can not blame the guy for selling the bike while he had a chance rather than just the wheels. Verbal agreements mean nothing in this day and age and no one is compelled to act on em.
If he'd had them off I would have taken them! What happened to a gentlemens agreement?
Like I said I wont bother anymore unless I can take the parts away.
petevtwin650
20-10-07, 11:26 AM
But didn't you have an agreement for wheels including tyres, then try and get the rims only?
Therefore you changed any "agreement".
Can't see why you're complaining really.
northwind
20-10-07, 12:57 PM
I think this is just the way things are tbh... Not everyone is trustworthy, so in his shoes he'd be a bit daft to turn down a good offer for the entire bike on a deal which might not come to anything... Personally with internet stuff I don't really consider the deal finished til I have the cash or the part in my hand, because it's so common to be let down. It's no fun, but it's just pragmatic on his part I think. But it's a shame people feel they have to do it. (when I was selling my guitar amp, I had 5 absolutely solid confirmed definate offers fall through before I made the sale, frinstance, if someone had turned up with cash I'd have taken their hand off.)
Could have really p***ed you off by agreeing on the price he asked for the part, sending a cheque to him, then being told the bike is being kept so the cheque is torn up and sent back to you. then a few months later changed his mind and got rid of the bike with the part you agreed to buy for another motorbike....
Only joking if that guy that did that is reading this, lucky I'm not terayikimonkey. ;)
DanAbnormal
20-10-07, 01:23 PM
TBH I don't see anything wrong with what he did. Until money has changed hands there is no agreement. In this day and age there is also very few gentlemen left. He obviously got a good offer for the bike and sold it. It's happened to me in the past and it's part and parcel of buying privately.
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