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CB1ROCKET
24-10-07, 05:24 PM
Got myself a spanking nice tyre hugger!
So off to the garage to take off the cr*ppy chain guard and undo the other necessary bolts.
Then i attempt to undo the little screw that holds in place a small looking mudguard, just beneath the toolbox on the K4. Then...............
"Snap"
The bl00dy bolt has sheared off!
Now the stuck bolt is flush with the surface of the swingarm.
Now I need to extract it but its tiny so is this going to be a "take the swingarm off job?!" I'm so gutted as I have planned it for the MoT :smt013
Any suggestions.....
Ta
Does your hugger actually use that hole as a fixing point? If you have fixings either side of the hugger I'd have thought they would hold it in place well enough, for now at least.
can you not use a stud extractor on it? Small drill hole down the centre and wind it out. Don't forget to centre punch the stud.
Carl
kwak zzr
24-10-07, 06:25 PM
oh the quality of those suzuki bolts.
Wild Bill
24-10-07, 06:38 PM
Hi rocky, like Lissa,do you need it? On my K3 I left little mud guard on.I`ve got a Power bronze hugger which fitted easily.
Cheers
Mike2165
24-10-07, 06:44 PM
I've got the rear end of my bike in bits, because when I took the hugger off to paint it, the bolt sheared. So while it's apart, time for the brakes, sprockets and chain, braided hoses, new rear shock and undertray to go on. Oh well it was getting cold anyway!:smt017
kwak zzr
24-10-07, 06:48 PM
good excuse to give it a good clean:)
CB1ROCKET
24-10-07, 08:20 PM
Well i would like the front bolt on since the front of the hugger is not actually a perfect flat and looks like it has "flapped" up! I get qualiy bolts for it but getting cheese bolts off is a pain!
I think i'm gonna have to take the rear wheel off and undo the shock, i'm dreading to think the dog bones bolts and nuts will shear off as well.
Well done Suzuki...........i think I should of stuck with my little 400 Honda instead, 18 years old and quality bolts!
kwak zzr
24-10-07, 09:18 PM
lots of wd40 on the bolts a few days before attempting to undo it all.
HopefullySoon
25-10-07, 06:32 AM
i'm dreading to think the dog bones bolts and nuts will shear off as well.
Well done Suzuki...........
Hi
Just yesterday I had the 'pleasure' of the cheese dogbone bolts , 1 came out easily (breaker bar 1 end and a spanner on the other) but the other just rounded off as soon as it saw the socket .
After half an hour decided that the mole grip werent making a impact so decided to hacksaw off the head of the bolt. Another half an hour later and 1 destroyed dogbone (I was replacing them anyway , so didnt care) both bolts out .
Shearing the heads off would be the easy way as the bolts pass thru an un-threaded bar to a nut , so if they shear that saves you the hacksaw lol .
HTH
Hopefully Soon
Good sockets and practise can save you a lot of grief, but the odd bolt may still give it up.
First things first: For the MOT you will need some sort of chain guard and it must be secure. If it's missing a bolt but it clearly won't come off or foul anything you should be fine.
Past that your first option would be to use an extractor screw with a left hand thread and get it into the bolt if it's sheared flush with the swing arm, you may need to drill a little to let it get purchase. Use a proper penetrating oil first and hopefully you'll be fine. I'll be honest I've not had to extract a sheared bolt in this way, but if it's flush it's the thing I'd try.
Jambo
CB1ROCKET
25-10-07, 11:10 AM
The main problem is trying to access the tight area for extracting, need to do this properly otherwise the extractor may well snap as well. It may be so well corroded in that the extractor would snap it self that way as well. And as that is harden and tampered metal, you can't drill it out!(don't ask been there and it was even more hell).
I may have to take the whole sodding arm off just to do this little job to an arc eroder speacialist.
My experince with stud extractors isn't that successfull
Can you get anyone to TIG weld a nut on and give you something to grab hold of?
Secondly can you heat the area up some how? Aluminimum will expand more than the steel so if your lucky may slacekn ir off enough to get the thing out
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RE Title - New Hugger! Then S**t happens
Isn't that what it's for?
northwind
25-10-07, 12:00 PM
The dogbone bolts may well be a bit seized- they never get proper servicing and they're incredibly exposed- but they're certainly not cheese... If you round one off, it's almost certainly the tool slipping not the bolt (or, wrong size tool/low quality tool).
CB1ROCKET
25-10-07, 12:00 PM
yes, i need to tighten down the front of the hugger as it just looks "flapped up"
yes, i need to tighten down the front of the hugger as it just looks "flapped up"
Araldite? (Who said that?!):-dd
CB1ROCKET
25-10-07, 12:58 PM
from experiance i have had no sucess with Araldite. The only good thig with epoxy is to hold things in a sort of mould alike. But flat surface to a really greasy swingarm and loads of muck isn't gonna help. It doesn't stick to anything flat at all.
I don't intend to have my bike looking like its been bodged up...... hehe
think it time to go back to the dark side again.........inline fours :smt077
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