Feet on pegs...

[plowsie]

Was reading through some of my Valentino Rossi book the other day and he was talking about a race at Donnington park on the old 500's. He was talking about the motions through Redgate, he said about going through the corner, and balls of feet on the pegs also(common knowledge)

Now the bit that got me...

I know he's a racer and it prob has more effect on track and stuff, but he said the he pushed down hard on the pegs to gain a bit more grip upon exiting.

Does that work? Do you apply pressure to both sides or just the side your exiting that has more contact on the ground, i thought that may get her looser if you are applying pressure on rear tyre on the side that is not making contact with the ground.

Do people use it on the road? And racers on here do you use it?

[Alpinestarhero]

yea, i thought about this too. I think the idea is that if you are pushing down on the pegs, then you are releasing some of the grip on the handlebars, letting the bike find its own grip?

I dunno. It works though

Matt

[Jester666]

Pushing hard on the pegs helps with turning. ie push on the left peg to help turn left etc.

[johnnyrod]

You can go for the inside or outside peg, but either makes it feel more stable. Not sure why as the actual C of G doesn't change, maybe it is more about letting the steering do its thing. Personally yes I do this all the time, whether dangling off or not. I favour the outside peg and inside bar to put your weight through. You can use the inside peg instead but if it grounds out you lose your control. Also when you go for dangling, the outside peg allows you to push yourself over to the inside more easily.

[Davies]

Pushing hard on the pegs helps with turning. ie push on the left peg to help turn left etc.


You explained this to me at Lydden, and it helped in the final session :thumbsup:

(because I passed chris(numbers) tee hee)

[G]

I dont know about more grip, but if i do it i get a greater sense through my feet of where the grip is and when the grip is about to no longer exist.

[Ratty46]

being a bit on the slim biult side i always push on the pegs on more demanding corners on the road,as i foind it helps me to turn the bike in, i also tend to ride along with the ball of my feet on the pegs.

[Pedrosa]

Push on inside peg for leaning,push on outside peg for gunning out of turn.:cool:

[StreetHawk]

I push on the pegs when giving it some round a bend, don't know it it really gives me more grip but it feels like it does and anything that gives confidence has to be a good thing :-)

[Ratty46]

I push on the pegs when giving it some round a bend, don't know it it really gives me more grip but it feels like it does and anything that gives confidence has to be a good thing :-)

definetly helps i think, balls of feet on pegs is more sensitive too i think, you can feel more if you get my meaing!

[Bear]

definetly helps i think, balls on pegs is more sensitive too i think, you can feel more if you get my meaing!

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[Ratty46]

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oops! in my defence it was 5.30 this morning at the end of a looong shift....
no thats not gonna work is it.....:-$:eek:

[Ter]

Not sure why as the actual C of G doesn't change,

The CoG when you sat on the seat is different from the CoG when stood on the pegs isn't it?

Its all to do with the point of force acting on the mass or something...

So if you put pressure on the inside peg (i.e. stand on it) the then CoG moves lower and towards the inside of the bike 'forcing' it to lean easier/more?

Likewise putting pressure on the outside peg causes the CoG to move outwards and thus helping the bike stand up and get to the fatter bit of the tyre which means you can gun it out of the corner?

These changes in CoG on the road are probably really small though, just my thoughts...

;)

[SVeeedy Gonzales]

Bike magazine are spouting this same dubious theory in the latest issue - about it pushing the bike down onto the road. As if pushing down on the pegs makes you weigh more.

Pushing down on the pegs does something - it certainly means the bike is less top heavy as your weight is on the pegs and not the seat, and it definitely makes the bike act more sporty. As for more grip, if it does offer any more it's certaily nothing you'd notice unless you were in MotoGP and trying to eke out those final few degrees of lean.

[Flamin_Squirrel]

Pushing down on the pegs does something - it certainly means the bike is less top heavy as your weight is on the pegs and not the seat...

:-s

[yorkie_chris]

where a force acts can't change the handling of the bike, you're not moving the CoG (btw, a lower CoG would make the bike more flickable, wouldn't affect lean angle attainable)

IMO it just feels better, helps to take your weight off your hands and lock into the tank better.
Just a rider thing, doesn't actually change the handling of the bike. Useful thing to use though, I certainly like it.

[monkey]

On track I found weighting the outside peg made it feel far more solid through the corner. So much better that it transformed my trackdays from godawfulsh*tehawk to awfullyslowbutstable. It was explained to me buy a serious trackdayer/racer (dunno) who said something about an imaginary plumb line and it was closer to the plane the wheels were travelling in than the seat, and that the peg is lower than the seat and hence lowering the centre of gravity. I haven't found any benefit from weighting the inside peg.
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[lukemillar]

On track I found weighting the outside peg made it feel far more solid through the corner. So much better that it transformed my trackdays from godawfulsh*tehawk to awfullyslowbutstable. It was explained to me buy a serious trackdayer/racer (dunno) who said something about an imaginary plumb line and it was closer to the plane the wheels were travelling in than the seat, and that the peg is lower than the seat and hence lowering the centre of gravity. I haven't found any benefit from weighting the inside peg.
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Mr Code says the same thing - I had to read it twice, to make sure it wasn't a typo, and to be honest, I don't really understand it. But when you weight a peg - it should be the outside peg. It has nothing to do with turning a bike, that's what the handle bars do, but more for stability, possibly more to do with your interaction with the bike rather than anything it makes the bike do - I don't really know.

I'm sure 101 people will disagree with this, but some food for thought - placing weight on the inside peg, especially when hanging off, places a strain through the knee and after a few laps, your knees will be killing you! This I know, because it's happened to me. Instead, a preferred technique is to lock you outside leg into the tank so that you can take weight off the inside leg. Therefore wouldn't weighting the inside peg contradict this well known and tested riding position?