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Pedrosa

02-11-07, 01:08 PM

Knowing how much the SV oRG F1 fans feel the injustices done to acertain double world champion, ithought that you would all be relieved to learn the following.

Negotiations have seen a parting of the ways for Fernando and his nice Uncle Ron. No severance fine will be paid.

Me not knowing much about how things work am happy to go along with the thinking that Fernando might just sign up with Red Bull,(of course powered by Ferrari) for just one season. Ferrari no doubt will ensure he gets top kit to play with and will monitor how he is to deal with.

Then come the end of next season, Massa gets cut loose for Fernando to team up with Kimi. A dream team pairing? Maybe not made in heaven but a powerful force for sure.

Jester666

02-11-07, 01:10 PM

Hes a miserable bu**er and should retire!

Just my opinon! ;-)

Filipe M.

02-11-07, 01:10 PM

Good riddance...

Jester666

02-11-07, 01:12 PM

If he didn't throw his toys out of the pram all the time I would have a little more respect for him.

Alpinestarhero

02-11-07, 01:12 PM

Hurrah! I don't like the chap. I guess now he and Briatore (renault manager, probably spelt his name wrong) can continue their relationship together if they want to, since Alsono isnt contracually bound to say "no, not tonight!"

I don't like alonso, he;s been whinning and whinning all season. Fair play to hamilton for putting up with him, and fair play to Ron for not kicking him out earlier. It had to end sometime and Im not suprised it has happened now.

Matt

Filipe M.

02-11-07, 01:12 PM

If he didn't throw his toys out of the pram all the time I would have a little more respect for him.

Wot he sed.

mr.anderson

02-11-07, 01:13 PM

Yeah, he is a real sour git.

Massa has more potential plus Kimi would probably show him up anyaway.

Alpinestarhero

02-11-07, 01:16 PM

Kimi kicks butt. He has filled Schumey's shoes fantasticly this season, and I feel sorry for him as all the stuff with McLaren, Hamilton, Alsono etc has somewhat overshadowed what a terrific job he;s done. A worthy world champ. Reminds me of Mika Hakkinen

Matt

ASM-Forever

02-11-07, 01:24 PM

As ever, a very impartial view from the ORG. :)

Pedrosa

02-11-07, 01:25 PM

So that's a resounding....." Good for you Fernando, look foward to seeing you kick a+s next season." then?:p:p

ASM-Forever

02-11-07, 01:35 PM

So that's a resounding....." Good for you Fernando, look foward to seeing you kick a+s next season." then?:p:p

I'm with you PH. You have to back the 2 time champ Spaniard, over the upstart Brit.

Whilst everyone is obviously looking at this from a 'wow we have a driver who isn't pants' perspective, i think there is a lot that went on that the public wern't privy to.

I also think that for any succesful F1 team, you need to establish who the number one driver is and then back him.

Is there any news on who is replacing Alonso? I think i heard Rosberg mentioned previously.

I am now in a quandry, as i can't bring myself to continue supporting McL, or Hamilton, so will have to look elsewhere. Kimi was always my favourite driver, but i would never support Ferrari. Super Aguri maybe....i could probably get a drive for them.

Swiss

02-11-07, 01:44 PM

I can't see a Alonso and Kimi pairing. One of the reasons Alonso was chucking his teddies was that fact he wasn't credited with the number 1 driver status. I very much doubt the Prancing Horses would ask Kimi to play 2nd fiddle to Alonso; and if they were to ask suck as question of him I'm sure they would get a resounding F U!!
He'll go back to Renault.

fizzwheel

02-11-07, 01:58 PM

I thought Ferrari had signed Massa for another two years and Kimi would be in the 2nd year of his deal so there's no seat at Ferrari...

Alonso has behaved poorly this year, but like ASM says we dont know whats been going on behind closed doors. Red Bull would leave an easy option to hop into Ferrari in 2009 perhaps.. I can see him going back to Renault though.

Despite whats happened you have to respect Alonso, back to back world champion in the Schumacher era is not to be sniffed at.

I think its the best thing for him TBH, he was never going to be happy at Mclaren. I'm glad he's not taking a year out. I do have a feeling though that gonig to Red Bull might be a bit like Damon's year with Arrows...

So the other big question, who will get the 2nd Mclaren seat.

Mike2165

02-11-07, 02:04 PM

Alonso going...shame...not

ASM-Forever

02-11-07, 02:14 PM

So the other big question, who will get the 2nd Mclaren seat.

Thats what i want to know...i keep hearing Rosberg mentioned.

Pedrosa

02-11-07, 02:15 PM

Alonso going...shame...not

In Fernando's home town earlier this week the plaza was packed out with his townsfolk and he was given the homecoming of a champion. They still back him to the hilt despite on occasion him not presenting himself that well during the season.

However anyone who heaps the blame all at his door is either a fool or simply xenophobic. Oddly,due to Kimi's introverted demeanour, dual N01 status could I believe work very well at Ferrari.

Sadly for some though, I think Lewis might have already peaked in his career.:p

ASM-Forever

02-11-07, 02:21 PM

Sadly for some though, I think Lewis might have already peaked in his career.:p

Ooh A+ stinky bait. :p

fizzwheel

02-11-07, 02:43 PM

Thats what i want to know...i keep hearing Rosberg mentioned.

Intriguing I think it would be good to see them bring another newer driver on...

Mike2165

02-11-07, 05:11 PM

Sadly for some though, I think Lewis might have already peaked in his career.:p

We'll see

haggis

02-11-07, 08:41 PM

I heard a rumour Jenson was a possible for McLaren. He and the young upstart would make a fantastic combo.

I think Alonso is going to struggle to find a team willing to take him on as numero uno, and that is clearly what he wants. Historically, Ferrari are the only team to clearly use this tactic to good/boring :rolleyes: effect, pretty much everyone else would rather see how things pan out with both drivers as the season progresses.

As they say, EARN your stripes Fernando! Being able to call yourself a past-champion just isnt good enough these days, consistency is key in F1 and he was pretty average this year.

ASM-Forever

02-11-07, 11:34 PM

Pedrosa

03-11-07, 12:45 PM

I thought it amusing that people were waxing lyrical about the new English born Senna as he performed wonderfully well until China oh yeah and then Brazil.

All of a sudden the excuses of "lack of experience" blah blah were all wheeled out. That lack of experience though apparently had no value when he was winning, but when he was screwing up.......:p

Like how many years of experience do you need not to knock the kill switch in to the "off" position?

Remember the old saying peoples...One swallow,does not a summer make.

He's shot his bolt I tell you and next season will be pootling around like David Coulthard. After all with no Ferrari technology or ideas allowed, McLaren are surely doomed?;)

thedonal

03-11-07, 01:07 PM

Alonso will be very happy not to be driving for McLiar any more. I think that next year will be the test of Lewis Hamilton as well- we will see how consistent he is for his second season now the dust will have time to settle on 2007. I've got lots of confidence in him.

Apparently, Red Bull and Honda are punting for Alonso- I can't see him jumpling over anyone to get to those teams to be honest- either Renault or Ferarri would be the best bet- I'm hoping that Massa's new contract only means he'll be making tea- I don't think he's really worthy of a Ferarri Team Driver. Great on a clear road- rubbish in traffic!!

Yeah- Alonso and Kimi would make a powerful line up for Ferarri and my brother (a long time Alonso fan) would be gutted to be wearing a red cap next season.

Being a Kubica supporter meself, I can look on most of this fairly objectively (though obviously I'm rooting for Lewis as well- and would love to see Jensen in a reliable car that isn't "a parachute on the straights". I also think that BMW will be a real force to be reckoned with next year- especially with Heidfeld's already considerable skills.

All this and no traction control should provide a 2008 season with just as much drama as this years...

Pedrosa

03-11-07, 01:10 PM

Alonso will be very happy not to be driving for McLiar any more. I think that next year will be the test of Lewis Hamilton.

Apparently, Red Bull and Honda are punting for Alonso- I can't see him jumpling over anyone to get to those teams to be honest- either Renault or Ferarri would be the best bet- I'm hoping that Massa's new contract only means he'll be making tea- I don't think he's really worthy of a Ferarri Team Driver. Great on a clear road- rubbish in traffic!!

Yeah- Alonso and Kimi would make a powerful line up for Ferarri and my brother (a long time Alonso fan) would be gutted to be wearing a red cap next season.

Being a Kubica supporter meself, I can look on most of this fairly objectively (though obviously I'm rooting for Lewis as well- and would love to see Jensen in a reliable car that isn't "a parachute on the straights".

All this and no traction control should provide a 2008 season with just as much drama as this years...

I really think that will sort the top drivers out. There could be those that struggle to get to grips,(no pun intended!) with the car being a lot livelier to control for the pilot himself.

grh1904

03-11-07, 03:31 PM

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Searches frantically for the "couldn't care less" option/icon

Pedrosa

03-11-07, 03:42 PM

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Searches frantically for the "couldn't care less" option/icon

You are as mind numbing as others on this forum. Why even take the time to simply state that something does not interest you? That is truly pathetic.

But then again it interested you enough to make your entertaining post.

I'll elaborate for fairness. There are many a member on this forum and judgeing by the individuals that have commented on this thread, it is plain to see that not everyone has a great interest in the shenanigans in F1. However the majority,(thank god) do not feel the need to post to indicate that the topic has no interest to them. They might simply read and move on. Maybe something you might consider in the future?

The beauty of a forum you see, one can observe a debate taking place but if no motivation to add any valuable or personal opinion is present then one can simply move on by. Different from a conversation takling plavce in your company where the comment of not being interested or bored by the subject might have some value.

Again feeling the compunction to simply state being bored with/have no interest in the subject matter is a personal opinion but perhaps one best kept to oneself. To avoid prats like me taking objection to your level of contribution.

ASM-Forever

03-11-07, 03:58 PM

If Jenson Button gets a seat at McL then i will burn my merchandise. :)

That is all.

Pedrosa

03-11-07, 04:00 PM

Alonso to Red Bull I tell yer. A season of kicking his heels whilst keeping his hand in before Massa gets the bullet.:cool:

I'm no expert but that young Kubica chappie seems pretty good?

fizzwheel

03-11-07, 04:17 PM

Alonso to Red Bull I tell yer. A season of kicking his heels whilst keeping his hand in before Massa gets the bullet.:cool:

Yep thats what I think to.

I'm no expert but that young Kubica chappie seems pretty good?

Agreed again, something is wrong with me !!! I thnk BMW will be even stronger next year than they have been this.

Tomis

03-11-07, 05:09 PM

Sadly for some though, I think Lewis might have already peaked in his career.:p

RUBBISH! give the man the credit he's due.

thedonal

03-11-07, 05:22 PM

If Jenson Button gets a seat at McL then i will burn my merchandise. :)

That is all.

My Brother and our mate Dave are off to burn their collective McCheat caps outside their woking HQ apparently- I'll let you know when it's on Youtube!

Pedrosa

05-11-07, 11:05 AM

Fernando mentioned in a TV interview a few days ago that his immediate future would be clearer within the next 2 to 2 weeks. However apparently Renault are wanting his decision regarding rejoining them by tomorrow.

Do we therefore take it then that Renault is not his immediate destination?

fizzwheel

05-11-07, 11:58 AM

Do we therefore take it then that Renault is not his immediate destination?

I dont think so, He says he wants a 1yr deal whilst he waits for Massa's contract to tick down so he can hop into the Ferrari in 2009. Renault want him on a 2 year contract.. I think Red Bull are the only team willing to give him a 1 year deal. Also it helps that Flavia manages webber who he could massage into the Renault with Heiki... would leave Fisi without a seat though but i dont know if he had done a deal for next year.

I dont what he thinks he'll achieve with going to Ferrari, if Kimi is 2008 champion again, he'll be established in the team and then Fernando will have to deal again with a strong team mate which I think we'd agree on has left him somewhat flustered this year...

glsuk1970

05-11-07, 02:52 PM

I can't see Red Bull going to the trouble of sacking either DC or Webber just to employ Alonso for just one year, nor can I see the ultra-competitive Alonso be happy running in the mid-field either.

Fisichella's contract runs out this year year anyway so Alonso returning to Renault would seem to be the obvious choice, maybe even agreeing to a 2 year deal so he doesn't have to take a pay cut ($22 million a year, apparently?) but then this would keep him out of Ferrari until at least 2010.

Raikkonen has been quoted as saying he's not in Formula 1 for the long term and now that he's eventually become World Champion (assuming the McLaren appeal isn't successful and promotes Lewis Hamilton to 4th place at Brazil and hence World Champion) there might be a vacant seat at Ferrari sooner than you think. If the rumours are true and Alonso already has an agreement to drive for Ferrari in 2009 then the chances are he'll be alongside Massa and not Raikkonen.

My guess is he'll take a pay cut and join Renault on a 1 year contract while Flavio Briatore tries to convince him to stay a little longer.

Flamin_Squirrel

05-11-07, 06:21 PM

Raikkonen has been quoted as saying he's not in Formula 1 for the long term...

Interesting, know what's he got planned?

ASM-Forever

05-11-07, 07:33 PM

Interesting, know what's he got planned?

[lie-mode] He's going to form a rally team with Rossi[/lie-mode]

glsuk1970

05-11-07, 08:40 PM

Interesting, know what's he got planned?
Not a clue, it's only something I've read in F1 Racing mag. Apparently when the F1 season has finished he spends his weekends racing skidoos in Finland under the name of James Hunt! The guy just loves racing, no matter what the form of transport.

Pedrosa

06-11-07, 03:02 PM

Interesting that Ferrari have drafted Michael Schumaker in to test drive their non traction control car.No doubt he can give a lot of feedback as after all the majority of his driving was with cars with the ability to spin up. I wonder what brain wave Uncle Ron has in mind? To dig up James Hunt maybe?:rolleyes:

Am I bad?:)

Sosha

06-11-07, 03:10 PM

I thought it amusing that people were waxing lyrical about the new English born Senna

Senna? Nah he's a mini Schumaker....

stewie

06-11-07, 03:18 PM

A lot of agencies are looking for drivers now with xmas coming up, I reckon he,s hanging on to see if he can get on to a decent agency and then a full time job after xmas, I heard tesco,s are taking on. s,true that.

glsuk1970

06-11-07, 03:42 PM