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gruntygiggles 04-10-12 05:12 PM

Re: Do you agree with tracking kids via implant chip?
 
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Originally Posted by -Ralph- (Post 2781433)
No, not healthy. Even loving caring parents can't be with their children all the time and have to allow them the chance to wander off. Were your parents, or another responsible adult with you all the time as a child? That thought process is how we end up with the debate earlier in this thread about children not being able play outside, in the park, etc because the parents are too paranoid to let them go unless supervised. They need some freedom within boundaries that you set, and you need to place trust in them for them to adhere to those boundaries. As per widepants daughter earlier in the thread, sometimes they will break that trust, but that's how they learn.



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No, they weren't with us all of the time when we got to an age where we could be trusted. Before that, they would give us freedom, but keep an eye on us. My mum was on the overprotective side, but it never did me any harm.

When we were allowed a little more freedom, it was on the condition that we always stay together or with our friends.

I have said before in this thread, that despite the best parental supervision in the world, people can get past it...children can become lost or be taken. When that happens, sometimes the very worst then happens to a child...my point still stands that the implant will still do very little, probably nothing to help locate the child before they are subjected to something horrific.

-Ralph- 04-10-12 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gruntygiggles (Post 2781474)
my point still stands that the implant will still do very little, probably nothing to help locate the child before they are subjected to something horrific.

How can you say that with certainty? Jamie Bulger was probably lost for 5 minutes before he was taken, and then walked a considerable distance, and before anything bad happened to him.


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gruntygiggles 04-10-12 08:07 PM

Re: Do you agree with tracking kids via implant chip?
 
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Originally Posted by -Ralph- (Post 2781488)
How can you say that with certainty? Jamie Bulger was probably lost for 5 minutes before he was taken, and then walked a considerable distance, and before anything bad happened to him.


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That's just it though...I don't have to say it with certainty. Not all cases will be the same. April Jones god bless her could have been 10 miles away before a search began, by the time the tracker was found, it could have been cut out.

I hope and pray she will be found alive, but I don't think a device like this would guarantee her safe return.

If it can't guarantee safe return, but can create a chance for a child to be cut into, I don't think the benefits weigh up that well.

-Ralph- 04-10-12 08:11 PM

Re: Do you agree with tracking kids via implant chip?
 
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Originally Posted by gruntygiggles (Post 2781537)
That's just it though...I don't have to say it with certainty. Not all cases will be the same. April Jones god bless her could have been 10 miles away before a search began, by the time the tracker was found, it could have been cut out.

I hope and pray she will be found alive, but I don't think a device like this would guarantee her safe return.

If it can't guarantee safe return, but can create a chance for a child to be cut into, I don't think the benefits weigh up that well.

Sorry, it came across as if you were saying it with certainty.

Recovering a child that's been abducted is not it's only usage, it's actually a highly unlikely usage for the tracker. You're also assuming that the abductor expects it to be there and knows where it is. If the kids just wandered off to the local park without permission, it's highly likely a GPS tracker would have them found before any harm came to them, if any harm was indeed destined to come to them on that occasion at all.

-Ralph- 05-10-12 01:21 PM

He's got as much chance of claiming against you as you have of claiming against him. I'd just get your bike fixed, claim against your fully comp policy for whatever you can/need to claim for (bike, kit, injury, etc), and move on.

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Spank86 05-10-12 02:14 PM

Re: Do you agree with tracking kids via implant chip?
 
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Originally Posted by -Ralph- (Post 2781793)
He's got as much chance of claiming against you as you have of claiming against him. I'd just get your bike fixed, claim against your fully comp policy for whatever you can/need to claim for (bike, kit, injury, etc), and move on.

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Did you get lost there for a minute?

next thread over I think :D

widepants 05-10-12 03:01 PM

Re: Do you agree with tracking kids via implant chip?
 
Should I make my daughter wear one of these
http://mattsko.files.wordpress.com/2...pg?w=450&h=589

-Ralph- 05-10-12 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Spank86 (Post 2781812)
Did you get lost there for a minute?

next thread over I think :D

I blame tapatalk

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